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posted 12-19-2011 04:17 AM      Profile for P&OOfficer        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This morning P&O Australia have announced on Facebook that the Pacific Sun (Formerly Jubilee) will be leaving their fleet as early as July, with the last revenue cruise returning to Brisbane on 8 July 2012. They're trying to move all booked passengers to other sailings in across the Pacific Jewel, Pacific Pearl and Pacific Dawn. They state that the Pacific Sun has carried half a million passengers in the seven year's it's been in their fleet.

Travel Weekly covered this too (I read the report early this morning, though it seems to have been removed now), reporting that the Pacific Sun has been sold to an "undisclosed buyer".

They wrote P&O as having stated that they knew that they were working the Pacific Sun on "challenging" itineraries in rough seas and were concerned over it's future reliability. They stated that this year (2011) has been a better year for their fleet in terms of reliability than last, but they were still concerned. (this is from memory).

It seems strange to me, that in such an emerging market where other lines and brands are adding ships to homeport in Australia that they would sell one at such short notice.

Who would buy the Pacific Sun? I think that even Pullmantur are beyond buying ships of this calbre now, and RCI have plenty of older tonnage that they could transfer if they needed or wanted a ship.

If they're losing a member of the fleet, would they replace her? I hope they would. Where would the replacement come from? My guess would be Costa, with something like Victoria - though I am not sure how she would handle in the South Pacific - thank goodness Oriana has juct completed a refit - or I would be worried right now!

LET THE SPECULATION COMMENCE ! !


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Sutho
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posted 12-19-2011 05:27 AM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think its good riddance to scrap metal.

I live in Newcastle and P&O shafted us here by basing it here for a season of broken down cruises that were cut short with little to no compensation offered. The ship was continually breaking down.

My grandparents did one sailing and they reported sewage and gunk entering their cabin from the overflowing drains in the bathroom floor. They were overwhelmed by strong stenches of sewage and the best advice they got was to sleep in the lounges.

Australians are pretty tollerant and accept scrappy ships like this for some unknown reason. If Princess tried to market it then no one would sail on it even if they were paid to.

I think P&O knew they had to get rid of it as it was a black mark on their fleet and its presence was eternally damaging their reputation and making them look cheap and tacky when they are trying to improve their image.


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posted 12-19-2011 09:05 AM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It is nice to see RCL doing so well in Australia with the ex Managing Director of P & O Australia running their operation and providing a lot newer cruise ships.

For too long P & O have put their old ships on cruising from Australia.

About the only one which ran with very few problems was the ss Oriana.
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posted 12-20-2011 07:50 AM      Profile for rd77   Email rd77   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Unfortunately I have no first-hand experience of this ship, but I do always get the impression that this ship is a bit crappy. Surely, the three ex-Sitmar ships are a cut above the PACIFIC SUN?

I do wonder where this old tub will go. Maybe Louis? Maybe an Asian start-up?


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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 12-20-2011 01:30 PM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There is talk she could be heading to a new cruising company run by the Chinese.
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posted 12-20-2011 05:20 PM      Profile for John Sutherland   Email John Sutherland   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A move perhaps for OCEANA? There has been much speculation here in UK that OCEANA would be transferred to Australia when P&O get their newbuilding? However not sure how they will market her especially when her two older sisters are in Australian waters.
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posted 12-20-2011 07:04 PM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Sun, Dawn and Sea Princess are here already dedicated to Australia. The only sad thing is that Princess have not trasnferred them over to P&O Australia. Given how popular Princess is I suspect Oceana will fit in well and be accepted.

I know several people who have been on the Pacific Sun and were really disappointed. My grandparents were on one sailing where sewage was leaking into their cabin from drains on the bathroom floor.

Other relatives were on a New Zealand cruise that broke down. Some reported a foul smell from the drains coming from the bathroom and infesting the cabin and were told by reception "just sleep in the lounge if the smells that bad"

Unfortunately when North America and the UK market will reject a ship like Pacific Sun, Australians on the other hand enjoy and embrace these sub mediocrity ships whos days are over. I suspect that is why Carnival has not really bothered investing that much money in the Australian fleet when passengers are satisfied with very little.

The other ships they have like Pacific Dawn, Jewel and Pearl are at least of better quality with some life still left in them. Although they are no where near the new modern standards that we are seeing Carnival, RCI, Princess and P&O UK produce with their new ships.


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