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Italianliners
First Class Passenger
Member # 5446

posted 11-15-2010 12:55 PM

I was searching trough the web and could not find anything about Atlantic Star (Fairsky) or Pacific Dream (Horizon)!

The first is a litle bit old, but the second is only 20 years, too new to disapear!

And what about Norwegian Dream ?

Thank you!

Italianliners

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Thad
First Class Passenger
Member # 1224

posted 11-15-2010 01:22 PM

I think Pacific Dream is being renamed Horizon..

Pullmantur Horizon

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Atlcruiser
First Class Passenger
Member # 4586

posted 11-15-2010 03:06 PM

I think that the Horizon is out of service for a while. Someone can confirm that. I read something about it here.

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r.fiebig
First Class Passenger
Member # 5240

posted 11-15-2010 05:40 PM

Yes, "Pacific Dream" suffered a major engine failure in August and has been out of service since then. She is scheduled to resume operations next spring under her original name, "Horizon".

"Atlantic Star", which had been laid up in Marseille, was re-activated as her replacement for the remainder of the summer season ("Pacific Dream's" winter season was cancelled) but broke down on her first cruise and was mothballed, again.

"Norwegian Dream" has mostly been laid up on the Greek island of Syros but has been undertaking some "sea trials" between Syros, Piraeus and Kusadasi during the last couple of months.

Best,

Raoul

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mike sa
First Class Passenger
Member # 5957

posted 11-16-2010 12:43 AM

And Bleu De France is moving to Saga ?

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 11-16-2010 02:53 AM

Interesting to know why the PACIFIC DREAM is given her old name back? I mean renaming her HORIZON is not going to attract her former Celebrity passengers, nor will she see seasonal deployment as a Celebrity vessel...

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rd77
First Class Passenger
Member # 2117

posted 11-16-2010 03:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mike sa:
And Bleu De France is moving to Saga ?

This is not confirmed yet. Would be great though, to see this ship get a proper home again...

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Italianliners
First Class Passenger
Member # 5446

posted 11-16-2010 09:17 AM

Thank You. I think that Atlantic Star and Norwegian Dream are in a bad situation... for Star maybe her days are ending, so many engine problems!!

Italianliners

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TampaMike
First Class Passenger
Member # 4445

posted 11-18-2010 10:21 AM

Horizon arrived in Barcelona 2 days ago. She has a skeleton crew aboard and half of the ship is in refurbishment mode.

She was berthed behind us on our second day in Barcelona.

***Greetings from Prinsendam***

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ahrpd
First Class Passenger
Member # 6229

posted 11-18-2010 11:02 AM

quote:
Originally posted by rd77:
This is not confirmed yet. Would be great though, to see this ship get a proper home again...

It has been confirmed according to Seatrade Insider. See this:

"With its only ship, Bleu de France, having finally been sold last week to an undisclosed buyer, CDF Croisières de France will be getting a much larger vessel in spring 2012. The ship is Pullmantur’s Pacific Dream, formerly Celebrity Cruises’ Horizon, which will be renamed L’Horizon. The 1990-built vessel offers 721 cabins, compared to the 316 of Bleu de France. It will undergo some refurbishment to meet French passengers’ tastes.

In the meantime, CDF will operate Bleu de France for the next 12 months, until the end of 2011. CDF will have carried 35,000 passengers in 2010, 25,000 of them in the Mediterranean where occupancy reached 100% during the summer, up 25% from 2009. Some 7,500 passengers sailed in the Caribbean on Pullmantur’s Pacific Dream and the rest on Pullmantur’s Sovereign.

The company targets 60,000 to 70,000 passengers in 2012, which would put it right behind Costa and MSC on the French market."

Separate reports confirm the sale to Saga for $US55m. I am amused though that having just renamed the ship HORIZON, they will amend this to L'HORIZON in a few months time to "Frenchify" it!!

Tony

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ahrpd
First Class Passenger
Member # 6229

posted 11-19-2010 08:24 AM

Saga has confirmed its purchase of BLEU DE FRANCE. See here:

http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=4240

Tony

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 11-19-2010 10:38 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ahrpd:
Saga has confirmed its purchase of BLEU DE FRANCE. See here:
http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=4240
Tony

It's funny that 'all' ships that were popular in the German speaking world during the past decades now meet again in the Saga fleet: Vistajord, Astor, Berlin and now Europa.

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Thad
First Class Passenger
Member # 1224

posted 11-19-2010 11:28 AM

She certainly will look better in Saga's colors. Though let's hope they lower the level of the blue hull paint a few feet.

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