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This morning the captain commentent over the speaker that the Norwegian pilot made a controlled sharp turn and there was nothing wrong. We supposed to have leaned over for 4 degrees.
I think a lot of passengers hade a total different opinion about the incident.
quote:Originally posted by Aad:[...] We supposed to have leaned over for 4 degrees.I think a lot of passengers hade a total different opinion about the incident.
People who are not used to such situations usually dramatically overestimate the angle a ship is leaning to the side or rolling.
Empirically (based on decades of experience and many experiments and observations) it has been found that 'panic' occurs when a ship is heeling beyond app. 10 degrees. This so-called "panic angle' has to be considered when designing a passenger ship and is usually indeed not exceeded that easily (e.g. it must not be exceeded due to simple rudder actions).
As said, most people who have no experience with such incidents get frightened and e.g. obervations like 'seeing only water trough a window' (possible at 'low' heeling angles) contribute to their subjective perception.
How is/did the honeymoon go?
[ 07-31-2010: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]
Just coffee ;-)
I agree there was no dangerous situation. But it was more than the 4 degrees the captain said. Otherwise the card would not have crashed into the bottles.
We had some more weird movement that same night.
This morning we were alarmed with a fire alarm. It was anounced over the speakers it was no drill.
Later there was an anouncement it was a drill. But for a while it was not a nice felling being in the middle of the Nortsea with a real fire alarm.
It seems every now and then they do this kind of drills to see how the crew is responding. I rather have they do not do it on my honeymooon ;-)
Is there a guide (other than company guide) to how many drills have to be run over a certain time frame ?
quote:Originally posted by Aad:[...]I agree there was no dangerous situation. But it was more than the 4 degrees the captain said. Otherwise the card would not have crashed into the bottles.[...]
I agree there was no dangerous situation. But it was more than the 4 degrees the captain said. Otherwise the card would not have crashed into the bottles.[...]
Of course, I have not been there and I believe what you say but as indicated above, four degrees sounds plausible for what you described. Mind you, it also depends on how fast the ship is inclining to that angle (e.g. whether stuff moves).
If you rotate four degrees being e.g. 15 m away from the center of rotation you move app. one meter.
If you want, you could try to get a feeling for that by making a drawing or by rotating a photo for four degrees (showing the front of the aft of a ship - preferably of a Vista class ) - it's not a lot but already quite noticeable. Or do an experiment and step on a surface inclined for four degrees - again not a lot but then remember that the ship suddenly moved to this position and that some people (depending on where they were) moved one meter or more in space.
Also, if you rolled from one side to the other - e.g. from four degrees 'leaning' to starboard to 'leaning' four degrees to portside you might have rolled through eight degrees in total - some parts of the ship would then cover quite some distance in space in a rather short time.
[ 08-02-2010: Message edited by: Ernst ]
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