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LeBarryboat
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posted 07-13-2010 04:30 PM      Profile for LeBarryboat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For those interested, I've posted my review of EPIC on my Cruising Authority Blog and I've added some photos.
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eroller
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posted 07-13-2010 05:16 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nice review Barry. Not too long which was nice.

I might point out you can't "ice skate" on EPIC. It's not ice and in fact you are skating on plastic.

So Royal Caribbean can still boast the only "ice skating" rinks at sea. They are certainly more involved than laying down a sheet of plastic over a basketball court during certain times of the day.

NCL can boast you can "plastic skate" on EPIC.

Ernie


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LeBarryboat
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posted 07-13-2010 05:34 PM      Profile for LeBarryboat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Odd, I specifically heard Ice Skate....but I didn't actually see any ice, only a basketball court.
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eroller
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posted 07-13-2010 05:43 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by LeBarryboat:
Odd, I specifically heard Ice Skate....but I didn't actually see any ice, only a basketball court.


Nope, there is no true "ice rink" on EPIC. Of course there is an Ice Bar, but as someone mentioned the technically behind that is fairly simple. It's essentially just a very large freezer. In fact down below EPIC probably has freezers that are larger than the Ice Bar.

I'm sure you have read the challenges RCI faced when installing the first ice rink at sea. It was not an easy task but they pulled it off. Also, there is no way it could be outside as they simply could not maintain the temperature of the ice.

On EPIC, it's simply a plastic type mat they lay over the basketball court. Not in the same league as the true ice rinks offered on RCI ships.

Ernie


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PamM
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posted 07-13-2010 06:02 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For recreational purposes it makes no odds whether one is skating on synthetic ice or real ice. One still ice-skates whatever the material under foot [skate].

Bit like Celebrity Century boasting the first "ice-bar" - now that was [is?] a joke.

Pam


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eroller
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posted 07-13-2010 06:10 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
For recreational purposes it makes no odds whether one is skating on synthetic ice or real ice. One still ice-skates whatever the material under foot [skate].



I can't say as I've never skated on plastic before. I guess I will try it on EPIC and I'll let you know. I would imagine if the plastic pieces are not placed together tightly there could be issues with seams, which would not exactly make it a smooth surface.

Personally I don't see how it could compare to real ice? If it were equivalent, I suppose we would have plastic rinks all over instead of "ice rinks". Sure would be easier and less expensive, that is for sure.

Ernie


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posted 07-13-2010 06:14 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I do know that an artificial ski slope is like a scrubbing brush and not at all like real snow.

Nice review Barry. Everyone seems largely agreed about the ships strengths and weaknesses.

[ 07-13-2010: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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eroller
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posted 07-13-2010 06:20 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I found this pic, and it looks interesting. Perhaps quite small as it appears to only take up 1/2 of the basketball court.

I think it's a bit of a gimmick ... bragging rights so to speak. How popular it will actually be is anyones guess, and I wonder how often it's laid out?

On RCI the rink actually has a practical use, which is to showcase pretty amazing evening shows, some of the best I have seen at sea. There is also a solid floor that covers the ice and the entire venue is used for large parties and events.

Ernie


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PamM
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posted 07-13-2010 06:32 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Synthetic ice-rinks are everywhere - mobile ice-rinks. Some have a liquidy stuff on too. Actually they can be smoother than real ice, just a bit more friction so more exercise. But they are not all the same.

You should try the artificial slopws made with the same snow making machines as they use on real slopes Malcolm Go to Dubai forget the Alps/Rockies.

Pam


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eroller
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posted 07-13-2010 06:47 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Synthetic ice-rinks are everywhere - mobile ice-rinks. Some have a liquidy stuff on too.

Pam



Well I guess I am a traditionalist in that respect. If I go ice skating I want it to be on ice. If I fall I want to feel the cold, slippery service.

None the less I will test the "rink" on EPIC and see how it compares to the real thing.

Ernie


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posted 07-14-2010 10:35 AM      Profile for LeBarryboat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I saw the "ice rink" but at the time had no idea it was for skating. I do think it is somewhat of a gimmick. There was a strange spider web cage that didn't make sense to me....looked like you just climb up inside it...mostly for kids I guess. The bungee thing was popular. The rock-climbing wall was also decent, especially the repelling section.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 07-14-2010 11:47 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by LeBarryboat:
There was a strange spider web cage that didn't make sense to me....looked like you just climb up inside it...mostly for kids I guess.

Barry, it may be a detention centre for drunks?


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posted 07-14-2010 06:10 PM      Profile for DEIx15x8   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by LeBarryboat:
I saw the "ice rink" but at the time had no idea it was for skating. I do think it is somewhat of a gimmick. There was a strange spider web cage that didn't make sense to me....looked like you just climb up inside it...mostly for kids I guess. The bungee thing was popular. The rock-climbing wall was also decent, especially the repelling section.

Was the cage popular at all? That had been on the original Oasis design as well as the Bungee trampolines (from Enchantment OTS) but bother were dropped for some reason. The cage I understand but those Trampolines look fun. With they had left those and it sounds like NCL was smart in adding them.


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posted 07-15-2010 07:48 AM      Profile for Lubber     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great review, enjoyable to read and informative. It's nice to know the crew is treated well! Interesting observation about the "pod-style" single cabins-- it will be fascinating to see how well these go over with the public.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 07-15-2010 08:53 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The fares for Oasis and Epic are both quite high at present, both being new ships.

It will be interesting to see if eith line have to offer deep-discounts to fill these maga-ships, especially when Allure enters service.


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posted 07-15-2010 11:19 AM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

Barry, it may be a detention centre for drunks?


Or it could be NCL experimenting with another "innovative" cabin design...you could easily sleep 20 people on a contraption like that. On the next ship they may literally pack people in like sardines.


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Having just sailed on the Epic, please check out my review of it that's featured on my blog - www.JasonRichTravel.com - Enjoy!Jason Rich's Travel Blog
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