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Topic: A new "France" : updates

NP
First Class Passenger
Member # 8721

posted 05-08-2010 02:13 PM

It seems that the project has reached a new level thanks to STX Saint Nazaire :

http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=112973

http://www.reconstruirelefrance.com/

Still puzzled by the design though :

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Frosty 4
First Class Passenger
Member # 5826

posted 05-08-2010 02:34 PM

DIVE,DIVE!!!!! Looks like a submarine with 2 sails.
Of course this comes from the yard doing Epic if I'm not mistaken.

Frosty 4

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dmwnc1
Cruise Director
Member # 3785

posted 05-08-2010 02:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
Of course this comes from the yard doing Epic if I'm not mistaken.
Frosty 4

And the Queen Mary 2, Crystal Serenity, Celebrity Millennium, Normandie and France, and Sovereign of the Seas.

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 05-08-2010 02:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
DIVE,DIVE!!!!! Looks like a submarine with 2 sails.

Frosty 4

Especially this image:

Rich

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eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 05-08-2010 03:03 PM

I like it. It's a very interesting interpretation of the original FRANCE funnels.

I assume the "funnels" are actually accommodation towers, with the forward tower encompassing the Bridge (as the funnel wings) and the aft tower a likely observation lounge (again as the funnel wings).

I would love something like this to actually get built.

Ernie

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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Member # 301

posted 05-08-2010 06:27 PM

Did NCL design it?

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Salaison
First Class Passenger
Member # 4722

posted 05-09-2010 08:24 PM

I'm sorry but what the hell!!? Is the rest of the ship under water?

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Cam J
First Class Passenger
Member # 24617

posted 05-09-2010 08:33 PM

It looks stupid.It kinda reminds me of this:

Cam J

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mike sa
First Class Passenger
Member # 5957

posted 05-10-2010 01:06 AM

Love it but surely too expensive to build.

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dougnewman
First Class Passenger
Member # 11349

posted 05-10-2010 01:42 AM

I have really mixed feelings about this.

It is (to me) aesthetically pleasing, and it's a very interesting design concept for a ship. But it's somehow ruined for me by claiming to be a new FRANCE. I like the design but dislike its whole raison d'être, which is a somewhat difficult position. I like the design, and I also like the idea of a new FRANCE, I just don't like the design as a new FRANCE. I almost feel as though the design is cheapened by being presented as an echo of something from the past rather than allowed to stand on its own as something new and radically different.

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jetwet1
First Class Passenger
Member # 6361

posted 05-10-2010 05:06 AM

Exactly, I would love for there to be some competition for the QM2, something along the lines of the QE2/France situation.

However, this really is a bad pie in the sky dream.

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Lubber
First Class Passenger
Member # 13710

posted 05-10-2010 11:24 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jetwet1:
Exactly, I would love for there to be some competition for the QM2, something along the lines of the QE2/France situation.
However, this really is a bad pie in the sky dream.

I'm sure there's an alternate universe where CMA-CGM woke up, noticed Cunard's success playing up their "liner heritage" to attract Norway passengers after Norway's withdrawal and, realizing demand for the "real thing," spun out and relaunced CGT and the France.

Oh, one can dream.

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rccldesign
First Class Passenger
Member # 4318

posted 05-10-2010 05:04 PM

It's plain ugly.

I'm not too worried though, because I'm 100% confident it will never be built.

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Lubber
First Class Passenger
Member # 13710

posted 05-11-2010 07:25 AM

quote:
Originally posted by rccldesign:
It's plain ugly.
I'm not too worried though, because I'm 100% confident it will never be built.

If a "new France" were actually built in real life, she'd most likely resemble QM2 except with that "Normandie" clipper bow and two winged funnels.

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Rex
First Class Passenger
Member # 1113

posted 05-11-2010 07:54 AM

Um, no.

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Thad
First Class Passenger
Member # 1224

posted 05-11-2010 09:41 AM

I like it... In someways the concept reminds me of the original Phoenix project with the open decks and large "hotel" towers. I cannot really get a good idea of how large it is, as the images of the ship in Venice make it look somewhat small, but the "tower stacks" look to be pretty tall. I do find this view somewhat evocative though..

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 05-11-2010 09:49 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Thad:
I cannot really get a good idea of how large it is, as the images of the ship in Venice make it look somewhat small, but the "tower stacks" look to be pretty tall.
Thad ]

The ship is relatively small, compared to most of today's newbuilds: some 800 feet long, 550 passengers. You can see only 4 decks in the hull, with about 6 decks in each tower, but those have a relatively small area of space.

Rich

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dmwnc1
Cruise Director
Member # 3785

posted 05-11-2010 12:01 PM

The website says she is 260 meters (853 feet) in length or the same as a Carnival Fantasy-Class ship

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Cunard Fan
First Class Passenger
Member # 7530

posted 05-11-2010 04:38 PM

I like the design as long as this kind of thing doesn't become to mainstream.

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Cunardcoll
First Class Passenger
Member # 1226

posted 05-11-2010 04:55 PM

I kind of like it but also agree with jetwet1 , I would like to see a competition between QM2 and a new France/Normandie again , maybe even a new sister for QM2 called Mauretania or Aquitania again.

Jochen

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Cam J
First Class Passenger
Member # 24617

posted 05-11-2010 07:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rccldesign:
It's plain ugly.
I'm not too worried though, because I'm 100% confident it will never be built.

Epic was built wasn't it????

Cam J

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DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 05-11-2010 07:50 PM

Yep, EPIC was built and it's ugly to me..but in time, this new FRANCE could grow on me. Maybe....

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Cunard Fan
First Class Passenger
Member # 7530

posted 05-11-2010 07:52 PM

Where are the life boats?

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Cunardcoll
First Class Passenger
Member # 1226

posted 05-11-2010 09:34 PM

Who needs lifeboats ??

I thinks they are probably going to be inboard one of those 3 "open" decks you see in the pics.

Jochen

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BigUFan
First Class Passenger
Member # 1382

posted 05-12-2010 09:39 AM

The hull design is interesting, but I don't like the funnels. They are way oversized. Yes, Normandie's funnels were once thought to be too large as well, but this ship lacks the aesthetics of the Normandie to make up for it.

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