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Salaison
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posted 01-05-2010 05:12 PM      Profile for Salaison   Email Salaison   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Okay guys question, I was going through a couple of pictures and i noticed that a good few of the ships coming out only have lifeboats no tenders for example Oasis of the Seas, Voyager class, Carnival Dream to name a few. Is it fair to say that those ships have no plans on being on anchorage? Are they guarantee a berthing spot? even if a port maybe over crowded with other cruise ships? and if they do anchor one is to assume arrangement would be made with smaller companies to transport their passengers ashore. Is it cheaper to use companies rather than their own tenders?
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Waynaro
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posted 01-05-2010 06:56 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Salaison:
Okay guys question, I was going through a couple of pictures and i noticed that a good few of the ships coming out only have lifeboats no tenders for example Oasis of the Seas, Voyager class, Carnival Dream to name a few. Is it fair to say that those ships have no plans on being on anchorage? Are they guarantee a berthing spot? even if a port maybe over crowded with other cruise ships? and if they do anchor one is to assume arrangement would be made with smaller companies to transport their passengers ashore. Is it cheaper to use companies rather than their own tenders?
I'm not quite sure why some ships are equipped with tenders while others do not, but my guess is cost during construction. I'll share my observations during my time onboard the PRIDE OF AMERICA as a cadet. Tenders are roomier, more comfortable, and has more equipments than lifeboats. For example, tenders allows for easier access into the boat, has padded seats, carry fewer people, has air conditioning/fan unit, a AM/FM radio with speakers, and has twin-screw propulsion system (compared to single-screw on a regular lifeboat).

Operating the ship's own tender is obviously cheaper for the company, than rent/hire tender service from the locals. The cruise ship itself can utilize their own deck department crew to run their own tender boats. When the PRIDE OF AMERICA anchors in Kona, the company hires local boat drivers to run our tender boats, but used the un-licensed seamen for line handling.

I do not think a ship not equipped with tenders has anything to do with having no plans on being at an anchorage. Ships such as the OASIS of the SEAS, VOYAGER-class ships, and CARNIVAL DREAM operate the Caribbean bus tour itineraries, and these Caribbean ports are filled with tender services. (I recall visiting the Grand Cayman Islands some years ago, and the cruise ship I was on used their own tender boats, while VOYAGER of the SEAS and another CARNIVAL DESTINY-class ship hired local tender boats). Other ships visit more remote places where there may be a lack of tender boats, and having their own tenders is a must.

On a side note....I recall reading somewhere lifeboats on the OASIS of the SEAS can also be used a tender boat.

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Funnel
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posted 01-05-2010 07:08 PM      Profile for Funnel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
At least Voyager class ships use tenders in some ports. Here are two pictures of a tender boat in Villefranche during a cruise with Voyager of the seas.

As can be seen in the last picture, these tenders are much bigger than a tender would be from the ship (and the tender boat in that picture was the smallest one used in this port, the other ones were much bigger).

Maybe it is due to the amount of people onboard? "Own" tenders would be too small, and a lot of them would be needed?


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dougnewman
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posted 01-05-2010 09:20 PM      Profile for dougnewman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OASIS is never intended to need tenders.

In the case of other ships, it is at least assumed that if they are going to be in a port where tenders are required, local tenders will be available, and will probably be larger than any the ship can carry.

If you look at these ships that do not have tenders, they are generally not ships that tend to call at out-of-the-way ports with limited infrastructure. Ships that are designed for wide-ranging, worldwide itineraries tend to carry their own tenders.


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desirod7
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posted 01-06-2010 08:59 AM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
SSNorway tenders are still used at Great Stirrup Cay.
It is fun when they beach themselves and let everyone off.
The ramp also has water flowing down to wash sand off of everyone's feet.

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LeBarryboat
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posted 01-06-2010 11:08 AM      Profile for LeBarryboat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's a picture of the Norway's Tender:

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Lubber
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posted 01-06-2010 01:52 PM      Profile for Lubber     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I would hate to tender off OASIS. Imagine the wait.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 01-06-2010 07:22 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What's the history of 'Little Norway' 1 and 2? Surely they are military landing craft with upper decks added?
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LeBarryboat
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posted 01-06-2010 08:46 PM      Profile for LeBarryboat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They were purpose-built for the Norway as tenders because Norway was so large. They were designed by Tage Wandborg like mini-WWII Normandy landing crafts.
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Tom Burke
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posted 01-07-2010 02:05 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Celebrity Solstice class has tenders - the rear-most three of the forward set of ship's boats are tenders.

That said, they weren't used on our Solstice cruise last autumn. We docked at all ports of call except Santorini, and at that port local tenders are always used, by all ships.

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