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It's also possible it's just a tent to protect the workers below. Hard to tell.
Ernie
[ 06-09-2009: Message edited by: eroller ]
So my question why a duck tail. Is there anything new added to the vessel?
Greetings Ben.
My guess therefore is that Ernie was right when he suggested that it's a protective covering - the stern hull & superstructure angles out a long way, and I imagine this is to protect anyone working below the overhang.
In re-posting this Azura picture here, Ernie, you could at least have given some credit to John Heald, who took the picture and posted it on his blog.
I have used the same picture in my own blog , but at least I have credited John Heald, and he deserves the same treatment from others who make use of his work.
I agree Greybeard. But I think we should give Ernie the benifit of the doubt and say he "forgot". But lets hope he doesnt "forget" anymore. John Heald deserves the credit, he had to leave his new baby girl to go check on a some ships, I know he would have proabably wanted to stay home with his family.
quote:Originally posted by AKer builder:Ducktail is a technical thing. Voyager/Freedom class have it, some silja / viking line ferrys has been added later. It supoused to increase ships floating capabilities, when ship is sailing faster its draft is increasing allso, more fuel needed to move the ship. Ducktail is keeping ship higher. It make it more efficient.
I noticed you didn't say Oasis. When I was looking at the rear Oasis pictures from the other day it didn't look like there was a ducktail, is Oasis really tail less or is it just less noticeable?
quote:Originally posted by greybeard: In re-posting this Azura picture here, Ernie, you could at least have given some credit to John Heald, who took the picture and posted it on his blog.I have used the same picture in my own blog , but at least I have credited John Heald, and he deserves the same treatment from others who make use of his work.
So you gave credit, good for you. At least I'm not "borrowing" the picture for use on my own website, which you also managed to shamelessly plug in your post here on CT.
Save your lectures for someone else.
Com'on Ernie there is no need to be hostile. You should have given John Heald credit. No shame we all make mistakes, we all forget things, no problem. But dont get mad at others for your mistake. End of discussion!
Kyron.com
quote:Originally posted by Arison:Adventure of the seas has a ducktail too. So does Azura,whoopty doooo!Kyron.com
These ships were designed from scratch to have a ducktail for the purposes which AkerBuilder explained. In the case of Azura she is having a ducktail added when previous sisterships did not. The question is why now?
quote:Originally posted by dmwnc1:Dont forget that MAASDAM has a ducktail and it looks stunning.
Actually the ducktail on MAASDAM doesn't bother me at all. It's those balconies that extend over the aft dining room windows that are a train wreck.
quote:Originally posted by dmwnc1:I'm surprised they didnt slap a ducktail on the back of SENSATION after they tacked that disastrous mess on to her.
I guess those snap-on balconies don't weight a whole lot??
As far as the ducktail, if it really is a ducktail, is concerned I agree they are never attractive but they are there for an engineering reason not an aesthetic reason and at some point physics will win over aesthetics. It is possible that P&O believe that Azura will have comparatively more open sea sailing than other Grand Class ships and therefore would benefit from the alleged ducktail.
This was certainly the case for P&O Australia which added a ducktail to Jubilee when it became Pacific Sun because the ship would be exposed to much rougher seas at higher cruising speeds in the Coral Sea compared to other Holiday Class ships plying the Caribbean (and now Mediterannean). Even with the ducktail, Pacific Sun will never handle the Coral Sea as well as Pacific Sky did before it.
I am no more an aesthete than anyone else on this board but am often curious of the consistent criticism of Princess' Grand Class ships. They will never be elegant in the way QE2 was elegant but they belong to a different era with different priorities (read balconies) and I have always thought they are brutally handsome, if never beautiful.
Brad
VEENDAM got the ducktail...and the cantilevered aft cabins.
MAASDAM has yet to suffer the 'enhancements'.
cruiseshipluver
quote:Originally posted by Carlos Fernandez:These ships were designed from scratch to have a ducktail for the purposes which AkerBuilder explained. In the case of Azura she is having a ducktail added when previous sisterships did not. The question is why now?
I believe companies have the right to change the design to improve. As I recall the Voyager Class has changed to. Mariner and Navigator have something their sister ships don't: attached balconies.
I am not a fan of Carnival, as a matter of fact the last few years I exclusively sailed on RCI but this constant 'everything Carnival Corp' is bad and 'everything RCCL is great' is getting quite old.
quote:Originally posted by eroller:I guess those snap-on balconies don't weight a whole lot??Ernie
Maybe they are light-weight and designed to easily come off if a wave hits them.
How did we start talking about Carnival! We are way off topic! This thread is about Azura's ducktail! If you want to trash Carnival start another thread!!
[ 06-11-2009: Message edited by: Arison ]
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