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ahrpd
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posted 05-19-2009 06:25 AM      Profile for ahrpd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Two extremes in cruise ship design are in Gibraltar today - DISCOVERY & VENTURA. Choose your favourite from the pics in the Photo Library of the Gibraltar Port website at:
http://www.gibraltarport.com/photo_library.cfm#top

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Dutch
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posted 05-19-2009 08:25 AM      Profile for Dutch   Email Dutch   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Discovery wins... by a long shot
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mike sa
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posted 05-19-2009 10:06 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Beauty and the Beast.

Sorry even Princess' own Grand Class ships just don't look as bad as Ventura, I think it is the glass and obviously the most ridiculous funnel treatment ever invented but somehow she looks more "squeezed" ?

I know it is supposed ot be about what is inside, but you still have to walk along a pier to get on board.


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sunviking82
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posted 06-02-2009 04:05 PM      Profile for sunviking82     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Amen Mike,

The Princess ships look fantastic compared to Ventura. If they (P&O) would just have left the "bar" continue and paint the entire funnel gold it would look fine. It just looks unfinished.


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Tom Burke
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posted 06-03-2009 04:08 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
The Princess ships look fantastic compared to Ventura. If they (P&O) would just have left the "bar" continue and paint the entire funnel gold it would look fine. It just looks unfinished.

I just don't see it. The differences between Ventura and, say, Ruby Princess are minimal; almost invisible. But for some reason, on board after board, Ventura is constantly criticised yet the Princess ships are not.


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PamM
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posted 06-03-2009 04:46 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's that ludicrous G-string masquerading as a Funnel. It changes the whole overall appearance of the vessel. But I do agree the original Grand Class vessels look so much 'sleeker' than the current ones.

Pam


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-03-2009 07:17 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
It's that ludicrous G-string masquerading as a Funnel.

There's nothing wrong with a G-String (on a pretty woman).


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mike sa
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posted 06-03-2009 10:12 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The glass on Ventura is also different - because it is green it doesn't reflect the light the same way as the glass on the Princess ships which is blue. Blue obviously blends in with the sky and sea more easily as well.

I think this is why she appears more bulky because your eye is drawn onto the glass which of course is all over the ship - of course the bloody funnel as well................


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Fairsky
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posted 06-03-2009 10:46 AM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't understand why the used green glass. Why not gray/smoke tinted glass like on Arcadia? That would have worked much better.

And the funnel...please. I think they didn't bother to change the design for two reasons: 1) to save money. 2) so she could be transferred to Princess at the first signs of a slow down in the UK market.

Awful.


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Tom Burke
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posted 06-03-2009 12:28 PM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I honestly don't see any significant difference. If anything I prefer the green glass to the Princess blue, but it's nothing major. As rgards the funnel - it's not a traditional funnel, none of the GP class have one, so why expect anything different on Ventura?

quote:
And the funnel...please. I think they didn't bother to change the design for two reasons: 1) to save money. 2) so she could be transferred to Princess at the first signs of a slow down in the UK market.

Agree with the first reason - and what's wrong with that? What's your evidence for the second? I could argue that Ruby Princess, etc, are like Ventura so they could be transferred to the burgeoning UK cruise market in the event of a US market slow-down....


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-03-2009 05:41 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...Tom I think you will find that some of the rivets have slightly different shaped heads between princess and P&O ships. This obviously has a direct affect on customer satisfaction.

There seem to be a lot of P&O faithfuls who have been disillusioned recently. I think the newbuilds and change of direction has alienated some regulars. Maybe Azura is an attempt to win them back?


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