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Steve Read (sread)
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posted 10-27-2008 07:16 AM      Profile for Steve Read (sread)   Author's Homepage   Email Steve Read (sread)   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...AZURA.

See here.


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Maasdam
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posted 10-27-2008 07:29 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Azura not really bad bud it sound like a sheap line name sad that P&O not re used some of there old ship names like Oronsay, Orsorva, Iberia, Himalaya etc.

Oh well make it easy to transfer the ship to (Azura) Princess.

Greetings Ben.


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ahrpd
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posted 10-27-2008 07:31 AM      Profile for ahrpd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why am I not surprised?

Tony


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mike sa
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posted 10-27-2008 07:32 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Que ? Sure it wasn't Pullmantur not P&O ?

Daft, not a bad name but absolutely no relevance to P&O at all ever. Given some 200 odd names to choose from I just don't see it. Of course P&O now want to be contemporary and youthful and trendy and all that so I suppose using something historical wasn't really going to happen.

Any bets the buff funnel goes next - to be replaced with Magenta - much more trendy......


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ahrpd
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posted 10-27-2008 07:35 AM      Profile for ahrpd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
According to the press release:

"Nigel Esdale, managing director of P&O Cruises, loves the chosen name.

He said: "Evoking images of the ocean and capturing the thrill of cruise travel, the name Azura is very fitting for this most sophisticated of superliners.

"It is also appropriate for a ship that will be a haven of serenity, and the embodiment of the choice and service excellence for which P&O Cruises is renowned."

Who writes this stuff????? "Evoking images.....?????" Are they living on another planet or am I?

Tony


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NAL
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posted 10-27-2008 08:06 AM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hated "AURORA" when new [the name and still do], but it will grows on us. "AZURA" fits in....in a way. Thankfully there is still the most beautiful ship name [IMHO] in history in the same company...."ORIANA."
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mike sa
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posted 10-27-2008 09:28 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ben 's right.

Azur Princess actually sounds quite good.

As for the language in the press release, obviously got their talcum powder mixed up with something else prior to writing.

But also perhaps there is a clue about how P&O are thinking of fitting her out as opposed to Ventura - she will be a "haven of serenity" - no kids and bigger spa ?


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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 10-27-2008 09:31 AM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There is a belly dancer in San Francisco with the same name !

Perhaps she could be the ships godmother !


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eroller
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posted 10-27-2008 09:35 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
At least it's not Azusa, another well known California city name!

Ernie


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Fairsky
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posted 10-27-2008 09:56 AM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Call it whatever you want, it's still one ugly ship. That actually makes me thankful their not using a more historic and meaningful name, like Canberra, on one of these Grand-class beasts.
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Tom Burke
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posted 10-27-2008 10:22 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I quite like this name. As for also working well as a Princess name, well that probably just adds to its virtues.

Most P&O ship names don't (and didn't) mean anything - Oceana; Adonia; Oriana. Even some of the traditional ones: Orsova; Orcades, etc. They sound good and of course, looking backwards we don't just think of it as a name, we think of the actual ship that bore the name. But as a word - nothing, really.

I'm also looking forward to learning more about the design, and how it might/will differ from Ventura. Like others I'm intrigued by Nigel Esdale's comments about a "haven of tranquility" - perhaps there might be something like the Princess 'Sanctuary'. (Is that what it's called?) At the very least, perhaps Noddy & Mr Bump won't be on board.

I've still got early summer 2010 pencilled-in as a date to cruise on her. Something like the third or fourth cruise....


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OceanVoyager
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posted 10-27-2008 10:31 AM      Profile for OceanVoyager   Email OceanVoyager   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like the name.

Its far better to have something more modern than using say "Canberra" which would be just criminal on this type of vessel.

I would have hoped they may have learnt their lesson and do something with the funnel casing, but I very much doubt it. Me thinks the phrase "beauty is only skin deep" will apply!

Anyway, looking forward to the update in November as to the interior style and decor.

Andrew


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NAL
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posted 10-27-2008 11:08 AM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Au contraire, Tom Burke.....the name ORIANA comes from Elizabethan poets. This was the name they gave to Queen Elizabeth I.
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Tom Burke
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posted 10-27-2008 12:16 PM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Au contraire, Tom Burke.....the name ORIANA comes from Elizabethan poets. This was the name they gave to Queen Elizabeth I.

I've read that as well, but it wasn't used anywhere nearly as much as 'Gloriana', I think - I don't think I've ever come across it.


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posted 10-27-2008 12:52 PM      Profile for KenC   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:
Azura not really bad bud it sound like a sheap line name .......

Oh well make it easy to transfer the ship to (Azura) Princess.

Greetings Ben.


don't forget .... Costa Azura or even Azuradam

Ken


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PamM
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posted 10-27-2008 12:58 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Poor little Azzurra having such a namesake.

Pam


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 10-27-2008 06:47 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by KenC:

don't forget .... Costa Azura or even Azuradam

Ken



And RCI's 'Azura of the Seas'


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Tom Burke
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posted 10-27-2008 06:58 PM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh dear, oh dear: read this story for one of those weird 'coincidences':
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7693993.stm

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dougnewman
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posted 10-27-2008 08:42 PM      Profile for dougnewman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by KenC:
don't forget .... Costa Azura or even Azuradam
I think the original intended name of COSTA ALLEGRA was actually COSTA AZZURA.

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Ernst
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posted 10-27-2008 09:04 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Burke:
[...]

Most P&O ship names don't (and didn't) mean anything - Oceana; Adonia; Oriana. Even some of the traditional ones: Orsova; Orcades, etc. They sound good and of course, looking backwards we don't just think of it as a name, we think of the actual ship that bore the name. But as a word - nothing, really.
[...]


...erhm....these names actually do 'mean' something.


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Thad
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posted 10-27-2008 09:35 PM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Orcades is the original latin name for the Orkney Islands. Orsova is a city on the Danube (not sure how this related to Orient Line). Oronsay is a Hebrides island.
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reeves35
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posted 10-28-2008 01:59 AM      Profile for reeves35   Email reeves35   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The fact is P&O are deliberately trying to change their image by not recycling their older ship names.

I would guess that they have done surveys and established that the old names either have no value or recognition or alternatively are seen as old fashioned and hark back to a time when P&O ships principally shipped "ten-pound Poms" emigrating to AUstralia and NZ.

Don't get me wrong I thought Canberra was a beautiful ship but I question the value of naming a ship after the capital city of Australia which ironically is over 100kms from the coast!!

Brad


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Tom Burke
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posted 10-28-2008 02:50 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Don't get me wrong I thought Canberra was a beautiful ship but I question the value of naming a ship after the capital city of Australia which ironically is over 100kms from the coast!!

I think this one was actually deliberate: P&O directors knew that taking emigrants to Australia was likely to be a large part of the line's business in future, so they named the ship appropriately. I suppose Canberra was preferred over Sydney because of the 'a' ending. And of course Dame Pattie Menzies, wife of the Prime Minister of Australia, launched her.

Thanks for the clarification regarding the other names, btw...

[ 10-28-2008: Message edited by: Tom Burke ]


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P&OOfficer
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posted 10-28-2008 04:20 AM      Profile for P&OOfficer        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Also, I believe that Canberra was chosen because of the Aborigine translation to it meaning "the meeting place" - in addition to the trade links and growth planned between the UK and Australia.

That's what it says in the P&O book "Berth of a legend"


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