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glynn
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posted 08-15-2008 09:59 AM      Profile for glynn   Email glynn   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Have the cruise line's really thought this out ?

Those who honestly believe that the ban will make a ship safer must be blinkered !. Your going to get people having a crafty out of sight fag and throwing the butt in the sea possibly being sucked back onboard , thus causing fires. I can't believe the lines haven't thought about this flaw in policy.


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Frosty 4
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posted 08-15-2008 10:39 AM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maybe they will have a detector that sniffs out tobacco of any sort.LOL similar to the Xray machine for guns.
We had this discussion a few weeks ago.
I wonder what the percentage of smokers to non smokers is on cruise ships???
Frosty 4

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NAL
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posted 08-15-2008 11:30 AM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Perhaps they will use the policy that Carnival had with its smoke-free ship. If you get caught, you must leave the ship at its next port of call.....or volunteer to go over the side. lol. Your choice. What was the reason Carnival decided to allow smoking on its smoke-free ship? I remember they moved the ship to the west coast, but cannot see that is the reason in and of itself.
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glynn
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posted 08-15-2008 11:38 AM      Profile for glynn   Email glynn   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It would be a bit late asking you to leave the ship at the next port if the ship was already on fire or worse wrecked.

I'm sure someone will come on and "explain" it all though.


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Linerrich
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posted 08-15-2008 11:39 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by NAL:
What was the reason Carnival decided to allow smoking on its smoke-free ship? I remember they moved the ship to the west coast, but cannot see that is the reason in and of itself.

Actually, onboard revenue was down on the PARADISE, compared to that aboard the other ships in the fleet. As lauded as the no-tolerance smoking policy was, the facts were clear, that with smokers on board, revenue in the casinos and bars was higher. So ideally, a system that accommodates both smokers and non-smokers seems to have worked out the best.

Rich


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Frosty 4
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posted 08-15-2008 12:42 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How about having cruises for smokers only and then a non smoking cruise? No, I guess that won't work either because of the residual smell left from the smoke. Oh well!!!
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NAL
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posted 08-15-2008 04:35 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As a non-smoker, I prefer a non-smoking atmosphere, but in reality smokers should be accommodated although in separate areas. I see no reason why there cannot be a smokers' room and to allow it in the casino.
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Norfolk Boy
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posted 08-16-2008 05:06 AM      Profile for Norfolk Boy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I believe that at the time of changing Paradise over from a non-smoking ship the reason given by CCL, was that it was causing too many problems when trying to make group bookings. There may only be 3 or 4 smokers in a family , but when that costs you 12 or 15 (or more) bookings to another line you have to consider the economics of it.
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Sutho
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posted 08-17-2008 12:57 AM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The reason smoking is banned indoors is simply because the smoke reaches non smoking areas in large rooms. Which is why enclosed smoking rooms are better.

It is foolish and childish to suggest that a complete smoking ban will be responsible for a ship burning down due to sneaky smokers. You have more chance of killing yourself from cigarettes in your own home than a cruise ship.

If you remember the Star Princess fire the fire started on the balconies on the windy side of the ship. those open balconies created a wind tunnel where oxygen was sucked into an area enough to light a flame and burn the ship. The ship responded by turning against the wind and shutting down ventilation and hosing the fire.

The ventilation and fire screens are adequade on a ship to prevent a major fire should it be detected. Given the fact that balconies now have smoke detectors and sprinklers it is less likely a fire will reak havok on a ship in that area.

For a cigarette to cause a fire on a cruise ship you need a source of fuel to ignite it and a stream of oxygen.


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