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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-29-2008 03:48 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I saw a video on Youtube showing shipyard workers sanding Eurodam's real teak on the promenade deck.

I wonder why this ship appears to have natural teak while the more upmarket QV got plastic?


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LeBarryboat
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posted 06-29-2008 04:01 PM      Profile for LeBarryboat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
I wonder why this ship appears to have natural teak while the more upmarket QV got plastic?

That's because Queen Victoria is a "real" ocean liner, practical....QV doesn't need to prove anything......where as Eurodam or Holland America ships are made to appear more traditional....so they need all the help they can get.


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Ernst
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posted 06-29-2008 04:03 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
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I wonder why this ship appears to have natural teak while the more upmarket QV got plastic?

Maybe QV is not more upmarket?


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-29-2008 04:15 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:

Maybe QV is not more upmarket?


Only w/the much higher fares.


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oslo dutch
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posted 06-29-2008 05:01 PM      Profile for oslo dutch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:

Maybe QV is not more upmarket?


They probably ran out of money and remember the promenade deck is a non revenue generating area!!! (So plastic will do) ;-))


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Ernst
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posted 06-29-2008 05:01 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

Only w/the much higher fares.


Yes, many people think that more expensive must be better.


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eroller
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posted 06-29-2008 06:19 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by oslo dutch:

They probably ran out of money and remember the promenade deck is a non revenue generating area!!! (So plastic will do) ;-))



Reint is exactly right. I spoke with the Captain about it on my QV cruise. Although he was not 100% certain, he is pretty sure the budget just ran out. As it is, QV is without question the most expensive Vista Class ever built. She had a design budget just like every other Carnival Corp. ship and hard choices had to be made. Things like create a two story Queen's Room or fit out the entire ship with teak? The designers (basically Teresa Anderson and Mortola) apparently made the decision to use the budget on more dramatic interiors, with high quality fittings rather than a teak deck. FYI all public space interiors were done by Anderson with the exception of the dining room and Hemispheres which were done by Mortola. You can certainly see the different design approach in these two rooms.

Ernie


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Maasdam
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posted 06-30-2008 04:32 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eroller:


Reint is exactly right. I spoke with the Captain about it on my QV cruise. Although he was not 100% certain, he is pretty sure the budget just ran out. As it is, QV is without question the most expensive Vista Class ever built. She had a design budget just like every other Carnival Corp. ship and hard choices had to be made. Things like create a two story Queen's Room or fit out the entire ship with teak? The designers (basically Teresa Anderson and Mortola) apparently made the decision to use the budget on more dramatic interiors, with high quality fittings rather than a teak deck. FYI all public space interiors were done by Anderson with the exception of the dining room and Hemispheres which were done by Mortola. You can certainly see the different design approach in these two rooms.

Ernie


Actually there was no choice fore the dinning room every Vista have a and the Carnival/Costa ones have two deck dinning rooms. The one on QV is exact the same as HAL/P&O Vista's Only with different decor.

Greetings Ben.


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Maasdam
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posted 06-30-2008 04:35 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
I saw a video on Youtube showing shipyard workers sanding Eurodam's real teak on the promenade deck.

I wonder why this ship appears to have natural teak while the more upmarket QV got plastic?


Not al decks have teak. Some upper decks and the veranda's have not. And uses that plastic stuff (yuck) Also the lido will have it.

Greetings Ben.


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Matts
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posted 06-30-2008 04:44 AM      Profile for Matts     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:

The one on QV is exact the same as HAL/P&O Vista's Only with different decor.
Greetings Ben.


The dining room is different on QV than the other vistas. Although Vista and Spirit dining rooms are in the same location and similar size, their arrangement is different. The void is smaller and aligned differently, there is no mid point (unlike the HAL vistas) and the decor is quite different. I don't know why but the upper level felt like it had a lower ceiling on QV than the others.

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eroller
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posted 06-30-2008 09:18 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:

Actually there was no choice fore the dinning room every Vista have a and the Carnival/Costa ones have two deck dinning rooms. The one on QV is exact the same as HAL/P&O Vista's Only with different decor.

Greetings Ben.



Ben,
As Matts pointed out, the dining room arrangement between the HAL/P&O Vistas, the Cunard Vista (QV), and the Carnival/Costa Spirits are quite different.

On the HAL/P&O Vistas the atrium in the dining room is rounded and quite small. In fact it's easy to miss all together.

On the Cunard Vista (QV), there are two openings in the front of the dining room where the rooms are connected by a rounded staircase on each side. There is also a much larger atrium opening at the entrance of the dining room which provides a much more dramatic look.

On all these Vistas each level of the dining room has it's own dedicated galley.

On the Carnival/Costa Spirits (and upcoming LUMINOSA), the dining arrangement is quite different. There is a single rounded staircase connecting the two levels right at the entrance to the dining room, followed by a large opening (atrium) running almost the entire length of the dining room. In addition the dining room is larger because the galley is actually located below the main level of the dining room, with escalators taking the waiters above.

Having experienced all three, by far the best looking and best layout is that of the Carnival/Costa Spirits.

Also, when I mentioned that Hemisphere's and the dining room on QV had a different design look, I meant in comparison to the rest of the QV and not other Spirits/Vistas. QV had two designers and their different approach to design is evident as you walk around the ship. Basically most of QV has one style, with the dining room and Hemispheres having a completely different look.

Ernie


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mike sa
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posted 06-30-2008 10:49 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The ships that always baffle me is the Regent ships, the whole top deck is that dreadful old astro turf stuff, given they are supposed to be 6 stars etc and that there are SO many better looking alternatives you would have thought that Regent woudl have gotten rid of the stuff donkeys ago.
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Tim in Fort Lauderdale
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posted 06-30-2008 12:00 PM      Profile for Tim in Fort Lauderdale     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mike sa:
The ships that always baffle me is the Regent ships, the whole top deck is that dreadful old astro turf stuff, given they are supposed to be 6 stars etc and that there are SO many better looking alternatives you would have thought that Regent woudl have gotten rid of the stuff donkeys ago.

Hi Mike,

the pool decks are all teak but the top decks are indeed composite surfaces as they are for fitness and activities. If you've ever fallen while running on a teak deck, you'd know why it isn't used in activity areas.

Tim


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