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Dutch
First Class Passenger
Member # 14009

posted 06-27-2008 11:30 PM

I'd have to vote for the Monterry when they extended her aft decks for the short lived Aloha Pacific Cruises.

It looked like someone welded a warehouse onto the beck deck and called it a day.

#2 is the Norway with the addition of the top 2 suite decks. I could never look at her with the same admiration I had before. NCL made no attempt to countour the additional decks to match the shape for bridge below. Band-Aid job!

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eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 06-28-2008 12:18 AM

Kungsholm to Sea Princess. Simply horrible.

Ernie

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mike sa
First Class Passenger
Member # 5957

posted 06-28-2008 12:47 AM

Worst PR as a result of various refits must be QE2.

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dougnewman
First Class Passenger
Member # 11349

posted 06-28-2008 01:02 AM

I'd have to with Ernie's choice. That's about as bad as it gets.

Unless of course this thread covers ferries too, in which case it's got to be the transformation from this to this!

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OceanVoyager
First Class Passenger
Member # 5585

posted 06-28-2008 04:05 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mike sa:
Worst PR as a result of various refits must be QE2.

I must agree, that infamous refit back in the nineties was a total disaster - from a PR point of view.

I remember being on the dockside for the sailing, and seeing the aft end completely covered in rubbish, skips and all, it was unbelievable.

Cunard were so arrogant and let the cruise go ahead.

Even when the Queen's son Prince Andrew came to visit the ship, he had to be taken on a preplanned route which only covered a small percentage of the ship.

But, of course, being our beloved QE2, it was soon forgotten!!!!!!

Andrew

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 06-28-2008 04:31 AM

quote:
Originally posted by OceanVoyager:
I must agree, that infamous refit back in the nineties was a total disaster - from a PR point of view.[...]

Not only for a PR point of view - it was a disaster. QE2 was not even close to a condition to leave port with passengers aboard.

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 06-28-2008 06:46 AM

I vote for THE EMERALD, originally Grace Line's SANTA ROSA. A sleek, classic ocean liner designed by William Francis Gibbs, looking like a small sibling to the SS UNITED STATES, then transformed by big, boxy decks piled onto her. Best reason for leaving the SS US alone!

Rich

[ 06-28-2008: Message edited by: Linerrich ]

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NAL
First Class Passenger
Member # 1102

posted 06-28-2008 07:57 AM

I have to go along with Ernie.....Kungsholm to Sea Princess. As Kungsholm she had one the handsomest, well balanced profiles ever constructed, and as Sea Princess one of the ugliest superstructures ever conceived......the hull remained beautiful however.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 06-28-2008 09:54 AM

The addition atop Sagafjord was also pretty bad.

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mike sa
First Class Passenger
Member # 5957

posted 06-28-2008 09:58 AM

To be fair if they had left the 2 funnels alone on Kungsholm and perhaps just made them a little taller to compensate for the extension aft Sea Princess would still have looked beautiful, it really was only that they removed the forward funnel that killed her looks.

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Dutch
First Class Passenger
Member # 14009

posted 06-28-2008 10:59 AM

Doug's nomination of the BOCCACCIO may be a winner. It doesn't even look seaworthy after the 4 or 5 decks were added.

Emerald is pretty tragic too. 1950's glamour to 1980's tacky in one drydock!

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NAL
First Class Passenger
Member # 1102

posted 06-28-2008 11:07 AM

MikeSA...IMHO it was more than a removal of a funnel. The new funnel was larger and an odd shape. That block of new cabins on promenade deck was ugly too. The only beautiful parts that remained were the hull and the stern.

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WhiteStar
First Class Passenger
Member # 2740

posted 06-28-2008 12:56 PM

Doug's pick has to be a winner for the most awfull looking refit.

Reed

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dougnewman
First Class Passenger
Member # 11349

posted 06-28-2008 04:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dutch:
Doug's nomination of the BOCCACCIO may be a winner. It doesn't even look seaworthy after the 4 or 5 decks were added.

Well, she sank in 2006 as AL SALAM BOCCACCIO 98 with around 1,000 killed!

Whether that had anything to do with her design, I don't know - it was probably more down to the incompetence of her operators.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 06-28-2008 05:16 PM

Don't forget there were 6 of these sisters, 5 of which suffered this ignominy, only one escaped. 2 of these sank, the rest made Alang.

Pam

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YoShip
First Class Passenger
Member # 6731

posted 06-28-2008 06:20 PM

That´s why I refer to such ships as SUICIDAL ships: When they (the ships) get aware of how ugly they are, they (try to) sink themselves.
Other examples than the above mentioned would be Pride of America, Norway (and her boiler explosion) or Louis´ Sea Diamond.

Greetings,
YoShip.

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dougnewman
First Class Passenger
Member # 11349

posted 06-28-2008 06:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Don't forget there were 6 of these sisters, 5 of which suffered this ignominy, only one escaped. 2 of these sank, the rest made Alang.

Indeed, and two of the six sinking is not a hardly a good safety record - but of course they were both owned by the infamous El Salam Maritime at the time, a company that rivals Sulpicio Lines in its deadliness.

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OceanVoyager
First Class Passenger
Member # 5585

posted 06-28-2008 06:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Don't forget there were 6 of these sisters, 5 of which suffered this ignominy.
Pam

These even make the jumbo-ising of the Townsend Thoresen ferries in the 80's look good...

By the way Pam, you are nearly at the milestone of 10000 posts!

Andrew

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 06-28-2008 06:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by OceanVoyager:
These even make the jumbo-ising of the Townsend Thoresen ferries in the 80's look good...
By the way Pam, you are nearly at the milestone of 10000 posts!
Andrew

...I just wanted to mention

this ship....

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OceanVoyager
First Class Passenger
Member # 5585

posted 06-28-2008 06:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
...I just wanted to mention
this ship....

I'll retract my statement straightaway!
UUURRRGGGHHHH!!

Andrew

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dougnewman
First Class Passenger
Member # 11349

posted 06-28-2008 06:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
...I just wanted to mention
this ship....

But that was an ugly ship that just kept getting uglier, as opposed to an attractive ship that became ugly.

Though this must nevertheless be about the dodgiest-looking passenger ship of all time!

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FL_Cruiser64
First Class Passenger
Member # 13706

posted 06-28-2008 11:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dutch:
I'd have to vote for the Monterry when they extended her aft decks for the short lived Aloha Pacific Cruises.
It looked like someone welded a warehouse onto the beck deck and called it a day.

Do you have pics of that. I couldn't find anything.

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Dutch
First Class Passenger
Member # 14009

posted 06-29-2008 05:56 AM

Monterrey "transformation" pics here:

http://www.ssmaritime.com/matson-msc-monterey.htm

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 06-29-2008 08:07 AM

quote:
Originally posted by FL_Cruiser64:

Do you have pics of that. I couldn't find anything.

Here is MONTEREY at Port Everglades on 30 August 1988, just arrived from her rebuild. I sailed on the Inaugural for Aloha Pacific before they placed her in Hawaii:

The new stern came as quite a shock, especially as I had recently photographed her beautiful lines in San Francisco where she had been laid up.

Rich

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FL_Cruiser64
First Class Passenger
Member # 13706

posted 06-29-2008 09:46 AM

@Dutch & Linerrich:

Thanks for the pic and the website. What an awful rebuild.

But I tell you all: you guys/girls have posted some horrific rebuilds. My goodness.

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