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Atlcruiser
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posted 04-24-2008 10:12 PM      Profile for Atlcruiser   Email Atlcruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Found a photo of the new Carnival Dream. Not sure what to think. Need to see more but more of the same from Carnival.


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nycruiser
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posted 04-24-2008 10:18 PM      Profile for nycruiser   Email nycruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From the looks of it, it appears that its a derivative of a Destiny class ship but with some new design features. I lost track with Carnival but is this ship a Destiny/Conquest/Splendor derivative?

I must say the stakes are high. RCI has the Genesis, NCL the F3, Celebrity the Solstice class. It will be interesting to see if Carnival will come up with a ship that is going to be innovative in some way. I have a feeling they will. If its one thing I remember from one of my management classes was that companies strive to have the competitive advantage. At this point the only thing I see that Carnival excels at this is their pricing. Which is a big thing for some people but as we all have mentioned they are laging behind in the innovative dept.


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posted 04-24-2008 10:42 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think CARNIVAL DREAM definitely shares some outward design features with the Destiny/Conquest Class, but I think that is where the similarities end. If you really look at the design closely, I think you will see it's completely original. DREAM is not just another modified Destiny/Conquest Class but an entirely new design.

Personally I think the design looks quite smart. Notice the lifeboats are once again suspended over the side of the ship, a trend that is occurring on many newbuild designs. In the case of DREAM, it appears Carnival has opted to retain a full wrap-around Promenade Deck, above the lifeboats. I also think I see "hull balconies" similar to QM2.

This truly has a been an exciting few weeks in cruising. After years of nothing but Conquests, Spirits, Vistas, Grands, and Voyagers .... we are seeing the design features of so many built from scratch designs! F3, SOLSTICE, Genesis, and MSC FANTASIA.

Ernie

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posted 04-24-2008 11:17 PM      Profile for nycruiser   Email nycruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes! I thought I saw a promenade ontop of the lifeboats. Maybe they will do some outside boardwalk type of arrangement with dining options and the like. Just a thought. I do see what looks like hull balconies. I thought maybe that was a promenade of sorts. But since you mention it I could see them being hull balconies.
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posted 04-25-2008 12:03 AM      Profile for Carlos Fernandez   Author's Homepage   Email Carlos Fernandez   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
She has the same design language as the Destiny-class but certainly is not one of them, and couldn't be even if they wanted to.

She'll be based out of Pt. Canaveral. Hmm, what's going on with Miami? perhaps it's out condo crazed politicians.


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posted 04-25-2008 12:58 AM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It looks like a Vista Class ship and a Conquest class ship fell in love and had a baby. If you look at her you can see similarities to the Vista class such as the forwar superstructure or the stern.

I like the way it looks.


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posted 04-25-2008 01:09 AM      Profile for dougnewman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If this has a wrap-around promenade deck, it will be quite an innovation for Carnival... None of its ships from TROPICALE right up to CARNIVAL SPLENDOR have had one.
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cruiseshipluver
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posted 04-25-2008 01:51 AM      Profile for cruiseshipluver   Author's Homepage   Email cruiseshipluver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dream seems to have a piece of a number of ships and some totally new design features as well. We can see the new Carinival funnel from the Splendor class, The bridge looks slighly modified RCI-ish, this will be the first carnival ship to have its name plate up on the top aft decks like the new RCI freedom-class and the Princess Diamond-class.

It has a slightly different looking central pool glass wall but shares commonalities with the Costa newbuilds - Fortuna, Magica etc. She also has hull holes as was pointed out..a la QM2.

Note the rounded lower frontal superstructure, that is different. Unlike the 3 sided angular front of the Destiny/Conquest-class.

If you want to get ridiculous, she has two leveled red carnival stripe along the hull. The promanade idea as was said before maybe inspired by Crystal Serenity?

The stern looks quite different too.

Initial impression is that she looks top-heavy but interesting new details in the design and remember these are just what we can see from profile view. Maybe she has secrets on the upper-decks?

cruiseshipluver


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posted 04-25-2008 07:38 AM      Profile for rd77   Email rd77   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have to wonder about the new setup with the lifeboats. What would happen in rough seas? Wouldn't waves hit the lifeboats and smash them against the hull? Of course 95% of the time ships like these will be sailing calm waters, but still they have to be prepared for rough seas....
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posted 04-25-2008 07:57 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How do you actually get into a lifeboat?
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posted 04-25-2008 08:37 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by rd77:
I have to wonder about the new setup with the lifeboats. What would happen in rough seas? Wouldn't waves hit the lifeboats and smash them against the hull? Of course 95% of the time ships like these will be sailing calm waters, but still they have to be prepared for rough seas....

The boats are not much lower - at least not much - than on other ships.

quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
How do you actually get into a lifeboat?

I guess you just step aboard. There are some ships where the boats are always in a position where they can be boarded immediately (without lowering them to a deck below) - this safes some precious time. To have them hanging there right above the water (like boats on e.g. oil rigs) is only consequent - it again safes some time and I would assume that the mechanism to launch them is simpler.


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posted 04-25-2008 09:01 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
How do you actually get into a lifeboat?


Like Ernst just said, you step on just like you do now!

I believe all the new ships with this lifeboat design have a the staging area, or boarding deck just behind the boats. This is very time saving as the boats do not have to be lowered in order for passengers to board them. They are loaded up first, with passengers in a sheltered area behind the boats, then lowered to the sea once full.

Ernie


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posted 04-25-2008 09:27 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dougnewman:
If this has a wrap-around promenade deck, it will be quite an innovation for Carnival... None of its ships from TROPICALE right up to CARNIVAL SPLENDOR have had one.


On the Spirit Class you can walk all the way around, except that in the forward section of the ship it's an indoor promenade that they have turned into a quiet sitting area.

Ernie


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posted 04-25-2008 09:29 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Something I would like to see that hasn't been on ANY new Carnival ship is an observation lounge. Unfortunately looking at DREAM I can almost bet that both decks of forward facing windows will be the gym/spa.

Ernie


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posted 04-25-2008 09:34 AM      Profile for sunviking82     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
WOW, what an improvement over the Destiny / Conquest Class. I am very impressed. Yes a little top heavy in the front, but not boxy but rather sleak appearence. I wonder if Princess or Costa will get a version or two. I could diffently see this design being "re-used" by Carnival Corp. Hopefully they don't neonize the interior!
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posted 04-25-2008 09:40 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by sunviking82:
I wonder if Princess or Costa will get a version or two. I could diffently see this design being "re-used" by Carnival Corp. Hopefully they don't neonize the interior!


I see Princess eventually getting it's own new design. The Princess concept of "big ship choice, small ship feel" is rather different then Carnival. Carnival and Costa and close enough that Costa may see one of these designs eventually.

Ernie


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posted 04-25-2008 12:42 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
FINALLY Carnival has a new design. She does look like a mixture of Vista and Conquest. The hull hole balconies seem awfully close to the water, but other than that she looks great. I am glad Carnival did not build up on the front structure like the Conquest-class ships.
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posted 04-25-2008 01:30 PM      Profile for cruiseshipluver   Author's Homepage   Email cruiseshipluver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The lifeboats seem to be more or less the same height as on the other Destiny/Conquest-Class. Remember, don't be fooled, Dream is somewhat larger than the Destiny/Conquest-Class and they are more decks piled above the bridge exaggerating the low look of the boats.

Another note, look at the boats, they seem to be all tenders and not the traditional lifeboats.
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posted 04-26-2008 06:59 AM      Profile for Aquitanic   Email Aquitanic   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think that's a very ugly ship. I've never liked Carnival's ship's exteriors. I think the Victory class is very ugly too and this one isn't much better in my opinion. From what I've seen on pics, I also don't like Carnival's interiors. I think Cunard's or Princess cruises' interiors for example are much more beautiful. They look cosy and classic. RCI's cruise ships look much better than Carnival's and even Vista-class ships, like Arcadia.

But that's just my opinion.


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posted 04-26-2008 07:15 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynaro:
[QB] The hull hole balconies seem awfully close to the water, but other than that she looks great. [QB]

Looking at the photo again, I'm not sure that those are hull hole balconies--I think they are just large windows for the public rooms decks. The openings immediately below the lifeboats could be for those embarkation decks which are only used for boat drill!

Rich


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posted 04-26-2008 07:30 AM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The lifeboats seem to give obstructed views to all the windows on the deck immediately below. Still, some compromises must be allowed. A walk-around prom is worth a lot.
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posted 04-26-2008 09:53 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:

Looking at the photo again, I'm not sure that those are hull hole balconies--I think they are just large windows for the public rooms decks. The openings immediately below the lifeboats could be for those embarkation decks which are only used for boat drill!

Rich



Rich,
I'm almost positive they are hull balcony cabins for a variety of reasons.

1. While DREAM is a new design, it's roots definitely come from the Destiny/Conquest Class. I think the bottom two decks are all passenger cabins just like on the Destiny Class.

2. You can see standard cabin windows before and after the hull balconies. Carnival does not usually mix cabins and the main public rooms on the same deck.

3. You can see the individual doors behind each of the hull openings indicating it's a balcony door.

4. There are only four full decks of balconies in the superstructure. This is minimal compared to the competition and Carnival had to look at ways to increase the balcony count. I think hull balconies were the compromise just like they were with QM2. Otherwise Carnival would have to design a mega-ship completely from scratch, without using the Destiny/Conquest Class as a blueprint.

5. There are two little holes underneath each of those hull openings. I assume these are for drainage.


So while the DREAM is a new design, I think we will see some similarities with the Destiny/Conquest Class.

Ernie


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posted 04-26-2008 11:30 AM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Personally, I don't really have a problem with the exterior; and I appreciate the fact that there seems to be seven decks with a forward view. The wrap around promenade is also a big plus.

My biggest hope is that they re-configure the public rooms so that the passenger flow is much better than the Destiny/Conquest class ships. On those ships, the passenger flow, in a word, sucks.

Carnival really needs to pull out all the stops on this one; for too long, RCI's Voyager and now Freedom class ships have have left them in the dust.

-Russ


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posted 04-26-2008 11:57 AM      Profile for Pascal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know what to think yet of her exterior design. She may in the end look much better than a Destiny even if a bit top heavy. That said, as we all know it, renderings can be quite misleading.
Anyway, it's nice to see something relly new for Carnival. I just don't get why they did order some more Destinosaur vessels for Costa due to be delivered after Dream enters service...

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posted 04-26-2008 12:39 PM      Profile for Vaccaro   Author's Homepage   Email Vaccaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is aesthetically speaking not a completely new design (but almost certainly a new one from an engineering point of view as Ernie pointed out) if I look at the general look of this rendering but probably an aesthetic evolution from the DESTINY class and I rather like it.
I'm probably not into the majority there but, exterior wise, I rather liked the original DESTINY class design too.
I think they've improved this original design here and, if confirmed, a wrap-around Promenade would be indeed nice.

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