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Carlos Fernandez
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posted 04-15-2008 11:33 AM      Profile for Carlos Fernandez   Author's Homepage   Email Carlos Fernandez   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
At least something new:

From Royal Caribbean:


ROYAL CARIBBEAN UNVEILS FIRST ARCHITECTURAL MARVEL ONBOARD PROJECT GENESIS SHIP

Central Park Brings the Outdoors In, Creating Open-air Neighborhood for Guests That Reaches to the Sky

MIAMI, April 15, 2008 – In its latest evolution in cruise ship design, Royal Caribbean International’s Project Genesis will bring the best of the land to sea with Central Park, a revolutionary design in which the center of the ship opens to the sky and features lush, tropical grounds spanning the length of a football field. An exquisite public gathering place featuring serene pathways, seasonal flower gardens and canopy trees, Central Park will provide cruisers with more choices in a unique outdoor space. One of the ship’s most ground-breaking spaces, this new concept is the first of seven neighborhoods to be unveiled on Project Genesis. Each neighborhood will provide vacationers with the opportunity to seek out relevant experiences in various locales based on their personal style, preference or mood.

Elegant and lively, Central Park’s central piazza will be the ship’s “town square” which evolves from a tranquil and peaceful atmosphere during the day to a gathering space for alfresco dining and entertainment in the evening, where guests will enjoy concerts and street performances. The neighborhood is lined with balcony staterooms rising six decks high with views of the Park below and the sky above.

Surrounding this social space will be an array of restaurants, with choices ranging from fine dining to casual chic. Guests will have the option of an elegant dinner at the new 150 Central Park or a picnic lunch from the more casual Central Park Café, where they can sit outdoors and people-watch. Other dining choices will include: Giovanni’s Table, an Italian restaurant; Vintages wine bar; and Royal Caribbean’s signature Chops Grille steakhouse. Several bars will be scattered throughout the Park, including the Canopy Bar, located at one of two impressive glass-domed canopies, and the unique Rising Tide bar - the first moving bar at sea. Truly an engineering feat, Rising Tide will span three decks and allow cruisers to enjoy a cocktail as they slowly ascend into Central Park and then descend back into the public spaces below. Central Park also will have stylish boutique shops, showcasing a selection of upscale merchandise. Building such a large vessel allowed us to add even more of the choices and amenities that our guests value and Central Park is a dramatic addition to our already extensive array of exciting features,” said Richard D. Fain, Chairman & CEO, Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. “Central Park is the first of many dynamic neighborhoods on Project Genesis which will enable each guest to find his or her own space and activity.”

“Our brand identity is founded in innovation and on delivering the best cruise vacation through ‘WOW’ experiences,” stated Adam Goldstein, President & CEO, Royal Caribbean International. “Central Park is a true evolution of cruise ship design and allows us to provide our guests with not only a more varied selection of balcony accommodations, but also a stunning public venue that will be a central element of the ship, both during the day and at night.”

Central Park Fast Facts

• Central Park is located on Deck 8 of the ship, with dimensions of 62 feet (19 meters) wide and 328 feet (100 meters) long. The sophisticated neighborhood will include 334 staterooms overlooking the Park, 254 with balconies.

• Central Park will be landscaped with tropical foliage, including seasonal flowers, shrubs and trees. Drawing on the concept of unexpected surprises and intrigue, garden spaces throughout the Park will sprout from charming pathways. Drifts of Calla Lilies among Giant Elephant Ears, Red Ginger, Rabbit Foot Ferns and Zebra Calathea are some of the plant life guests will discover. Trees, some eventually reaching more than two-and-ahalf decks tall, include Black Olive, Cuban Laurel, Cherry of the Rio Grande, and Painted and Golden Bamboo.

• Surprises in the Park include quiet reading corners; a Chess Garden with large-scale pieces; the Pergola Garden, an interpretive garden featuring vegetation from a host of Caribbean locales; and a Sculpture garden, highlighting work by international artists.

• Irrigation and drainage systems will be incorporated, along with micro-climate control techniques.

• An on-site horticulturist will provide educational classes for guests seeking to learn more about flora.

• The Crystal Canopies, two impressive arched-glass domes, one with a bar, will be a focal point of Central Park and provide sunlight into the ship’s inner public spaces.

• Restaurants and dining options in the Central Park neighborhood include:

o 150 Central Park – The most exclusive dining venue on the ship, 150 Central Park combines leading edge cuisine with leading-edge design. An observation window into the kitchen of this stylish restaurant will give Central Park passersby the opportunity to observe the executive chef in action.

Open for dinner.

o Chops Grille – Continuing the tradition, Royal Caribbean’s popular signature steakhouse will offer premium cut, quality meats in an upscale, contemporary setting. Open for dinner.

o Giovanni’s Table – Influenced by the Tuscan countryside, Giovanni’s will be a casual new Italian restaurant concept offering toasted herbal breads, pizzas, salads, pastas, Italian sandwiches, braised meat dishes and stews. Rustic with a contemporary flair, dishes are served family style in an indoor and outdoor setting to provide an alfresco experience in Central Park. Open for lunch and dinner.

o Central Park Café – A casual dining choice providing a high level of variety and flexibility, Central Park Café is an indoor/outdoor gourmet market with walk-up counters. From freshly prepared salads and made-to-order sandwiches to paninis, crepes and hearty soups, guests order directly from the chefs behind the food stations. European pastries, sublime chocolates and decadent fudge round out the offerings. Open for breakfast, lunch, snacks, dinner and late night treats.

o Vintages – Always a popular hot spot for Royal Caribbean guests on Voyager- and Freedom-class ships, the Vintages wine bar evolves into a larger space on Project Genesis, offering a variety of options for those seeking a tropical white Riesling or a mocha-inflected Merlot. Great for a pre-dinner rendezvous, Vintages also provides a selection of cheeses and a full tapas menu to accompany a robust selection of fine wines. Open for lunch and dinner.

• Central Park will feature upscale retail boutiques for discerning travelers, including specialty outlets such as The Parkside Gallery, showcasing original artwork for purchase, and Picture This, a portrait studio. When she launches in late 2009, Project Genesis will be the largest and most revolutionary cruise ship in the world. An architectural marvel at sea, she will span 16 decks, encompass 220,000 GRT, carry 5,400 guests, and feature 2,700 staterooms. The ship will sail from her home port in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. In 2010, she will be joined by a sister ship. Additional information is available at www.royalcaribbeangenesis.com.

Central Park

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Rising Tide Bar

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Jekyll
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posted 04-15-2008 11:48 AM      Profile for Jekyll   Email Jekyll   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
While the Central Park thing is just reconfirming everything we sort of already knew.

Interesting how the evoultion of the 2 storey strium has morphed into this!

The idea of the moving bar seems interesting...certainly not something I felt I was ever missing on my previous cruises...but an interesting concept for sure!

Thanks for posting!


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M Philly
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posted 04-15-2008 11:48 AM      Profile for M Philly   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Finally some confirmation!! So does this mean the RP is being completely replaced by CP? Pretty incredible innovations. And to think, this is only the tip of the iceburg, I'm sure they are holding back so much more!
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GregD
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posted 04-15-2008 11:52 AM      Profile for GregD   Author's Homepage   Email GregD   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As far as i know RP will be below CP
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Andy
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posted 04-15-2008 11:53 AM      Profile for Andy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I believe 225,000 tonnage does not include this space? This is not an enclosed space. So the ship will have plenty of space for many other innovations.
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posted 04-15-2008 11:57 AM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It will be interesting to see what type of impact a sustained rain or intense heat will have on the activities around Central Park. On the current ships, activities in the Royal Promenade are unaffected by the weather.

Joe at TravelPage.com


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Carlos Fernandez
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posted 04-15-2008 11:58 AM      Profile for Carlos Fernandez   Author's Homepage   Email Carlos Fernandez   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Central Park will be RP, so no RP, but, there will be seven different communities around the ship to integrate passengers to what they like.
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GregD
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posted 04-15-2008 12:00 PM      Profile for GregD   Author's Homepage   Email GregD   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by joe at travelpage:
It will be interesting to see what type of impact a sustained rain or intense heat will have on the activities around Central Park. On the current ships, activities in the Royal Promenade are unaffected by the weather.

Joe at TravelPage.com


The article said that they will have a drainage system for the rain but i wondere what they plane to do about the sun beating down on it and the heat that that will generate since there will be no breeze there


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Steve Read (sread)
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posted 04-15-2008 12:12 PM      Profile for Steve Read (sread)   Author's Homepage   Email Steve Read (sread)   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What about worms, rabbits and birds?
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posted 04-15-2008 12:16 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by sread:
What about worms, rabbits and birds?

I predict they will eventually need to have some sort of retractable roof to deal with the realities of the weather and to keep those pesky seagulls, pigeons and flying insects from invading while the ship is in port.


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posted 04-15-2008 12:17 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by joe at travelpage:
It will be interesting to see what type of impact a sustained rain or intense heat will have on the activities around Central Park. On the current ships, activities in the Royal Promenade are unaffected by the weather.

Joe at TravelPage.com



Totally agree! I find it hard to believe that the Royal Promenade will not exist in some form. I cant imagine trying to shop, bar hop, or sit outdoors in the Pub in Central Park 'subject to weather conditions'.

The Central Park balconies offer absolutely no privacy. Something wrong there.


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M Philly
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posted 04-15-2008 12:20 PM      Profile for M Philly   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know how easy it is for rabbits to get through cutoms now a days!! But I can see seagulls becoming a big issue.

It's possible that RCI will install some of those large misting fans throughout CP to generate a slight breeze and mist for the plant life? I've seen them in lines at Disney and such, they seem to cool people off pretty well on hot days.


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posted 04-15-2008 12:29 PM      Profile for greybeard     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
According to the USA Today piece:

quote:
Royal Caribbean says the Central Park area is one of seven "neighborhoods" that the line plans for the ships, part of a new strategy to divide up passengers based on their personal tastes and interests. The line will unveil other neighborhoods over the next year.

So we wait all this time to learn about Central Park, and then discover it's only one of SEVEN (count 'em) neighbourhoods.

So that's another six announcements to come.

Let the speculation begin . . .

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posted 04-15-2008 12:33 PM      Profile for GregD   Author's Homepage   Email GregD   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://www.royalcaribbean-genesis.com/contact.html
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There could be some type of retractable screens above CP to keep out direct sunlight as seen in garden centers for shade plants. The trees could be artificial like the amazing ones used in several Las Vegas hotels. The image of CP in fact reminds me of the Wynn or Mirage Hotels in Las Vegas except it is open to the elements.
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quote:
Originally posted by GregD:
http://www.royalcaribbean-genesis.com/contact.html


Excellent website with many construction photos and renderings. Exciting stuff for certain. I have no doubt this will be an amazing ship unlike any other, but I would expect nothing less. Looks to me like there will still be a "Royal Promenade", but it will only be three levels in height instead of four. I'm not sure how that will look? Perhaps too closed in? I don't know.

Ernie


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GregD

AWESOME video's on the website!!! Thanks! You can get a feel for how big CP will be. Surreal


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posted 04-15-2008 12:48 PM      Profile for GregD   Author's Homepage   Email GregD   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
1. Central Park
2. RP maybe (Aker said its there)
3. Boardwalk
4. Dining room area?
5. Lido/Pool?
6. Theater area?
7. VCL?

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posted 04-15-2008 12:54 PM      Profile for GregD   Author's Homepage   Email GregD   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eroller:


Excellent website with many construction photos and renderings. Exciting stuff for certain. I have no doubt this will be an amazing ship unlike any other, but I would expect nothing less. Looks to me like there will still be a "Royal Promenade", but it will only be three levels in height instead of four. I'm not sure how that will look? Perhaps too closed in? I don't know.

Ernie



They could build it a little wider and add natural light and that should 'open' it up a little

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On the video there is an arial shot of Genesis from above where you can make out some additional details. It appears the funnel will be a split design--side by side uptakes. You can also see the bridge that spans across Central Park. What I did not see, however, were any pools. That is still a mystery. Will they be above CP on either side, or in the aft of the ship behind the funnel?
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posted 04-15-2008 01:15 PM      Profile for Carlos Fernandez   Author's Homepage   Email Carlos Fernandez   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From that image we can see the cantilevered whirlpools, the pools should be on the sides of CP and above since Kulovaara said people could look down to CP from the pool areas.
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Some of the renderings of CP seem to give contradictory information. For example, the tall vertical arches that rise up from the park through the balconies--in some renderings they are white and bow inward, on other renderings they are brown/wood colored and bow outward. I wonder if some design details are still undetermined.

Another is the bridge above CP. In one image the bridge is very thick (could there be pool up there?), and in another image the bridge is flat/thin as one might expect. Likewise, beneath the bridge there appear to be no balcony cabins--just a black white wall. While in another rendering there is something occupying these vertical spaces.

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quote:
Originally posted by sread:
What about worms, rabbits and birds?

Don't, worry, RCI have worked out a fare structure for them.

The first video shows a Royal Prom (said to be directly below CP). CP appears to have some skylights in the video which may look down onto the RP allowing light in?

(They probably could not later add a roof to CP, as a roof that big and heavy would compromise the ships stability).

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quote:
Originally posted by Carlos Fernandez:
Central Park will be RP, so no RP...

In the last set of construction pics you can clearly see a space below CP that would be the RP. I dont believe the the RP will be only outdoors, and only in CP.


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