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Queen Vic Tour - Here
(How does he take such great interior photographs?)
O.K. so what do you all think. EVen though I've just returned, looking back at the images some rooms do seem a bit 'overdone' to me. Being a Brit I do like the slightly more 'understated' approach of the QM2.
Her Golden Lion Pub works better than on Mary2 where the space and the detail is all wrong.
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:[QB](How does he take such great interior photographs?)
Perhaps because he is an excellent photographer?
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:Bart features the Queen Vic in his excellet 'Ship Parade' web site:(How does he take such great interior photographs?).
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A few years ago, we were in the same group visiting the DEUTSCHLAND.He has a great camera and takes his time to make a photo. He prefers not having people on the photo unless . .
I didn't like the Queens Room much either - it seemed rather disjointed to me.
Among the relatively few other spaces I saw, the Royal Court Theatre was very impressive in scale, albeit decorated in a rather overwrought manner (and with carpet depicting film reels, which have nothing to do with what it's used for!), and I thought the Café Carinthia/Champagne Bar and Library were actually quite lovely, intimate spaces. The Grand Lobby is better than QM2's but suffers from the very dull brown carpet.
Sadly I had to rush off to another engagement before seeing the rest of the ship, so I cannot form an overall opinion of her - but from Bart's photos and others I've seen, many of the smaller spaces (e.g. the Chart Room, Commodore Club, etc.) look rather nice. But I am rather perplexed at the Queens Room - it is described by many as one of the ship's best spaces but I found it very disappointing, aside from the fact that it is nice to see a ship today dedicated a lot of space to a real ballroom. But I far prefer QM2's which, I think, is actually one of the more successful faux-deco spaces on the ship.
The ship has been talked about so much, what is there left to say? If there was such a thing as "ship burn out" I surely have it regarding QV. I also got a little burned out with QM2, but at least the ship deserved all the attention. At the end of the day QV is just another Vista Class, and were she sailing for HAL or P&O she wouldn't receive 1/4 of the attention she has. Frankly QV is just not that interesting. She is a fine cruise ship for certain, but there is nothing really unique or exciting about the ship. Even the decor is a little ho-hum IMO. Quite nice to be sure, but I've seen it so much now it leaves me a bit underwhelmed. There will be no surprises when I actually sail on her.
Hopefully my attitude will change before my cruise on her in June. I will be onboard for 12 days and at the moment I'm not overly excited about the trip. If nothing else, Norway should prove a spectacular destination.
Ernie
ps - As for Bart's pictures and review ... fantastic as always, even for a ship I am caring less and less about.
quote:Originally posted by eroller: At the end of the day QV is just another Vista Class, and were she sailing for HAL or P&O she wouldn't receive 1/4 of the attention she has. Frankly QV is just not that interesting.
Exactly. I did'nt even bother to drive down and see her when she was here in L.A.. If I feel the need, I can always drive down to San Pedro or Long Beach any weekend and see another Vista/Spirit Class ship.
Pretty sad as I use to get so excited seeing 'classic' liners and cruise ships but when QE2 departs L.A. for the last time next month that may be my last 'shipspotting' trip down to the harbor. Now if a cruise line builds a really beautiful ship, I may change my mind!
quote:Originally posted by eroller:For me QV is like a song they keep playing over and over again on the radio until you can't stand it anymore. You started off liking the song but after overexposure you just want to change the channel. That is how I feel about QV. The ship has been talked about so much, what is there left to say? If there was such a thing as "ship burn out" I surely have it regarding QV. I also got a little burned out with QM2, but at least the ship deserved all the attention. At the end of the day QV is just another Vista Class, and were she sailing for HAL or P&O she wouldn't receive 1/4 of the attention she has. Frankly QV is just not that interesting. She is a fine cruise ship for certain, but there is nothing really unique or exciting about the ship. Even the decor is a little ho-hum IMO. Quite nice to be sure, but I've seen it so much now it leaves me a bit underwhelmed. There will be no surprises when I actually sail on her. Hopefully my attitude will change before my cruise on her in June. I will be onboard for 12 days and at the moment I'm not overly excited about the trip. If nothing else, Norway should prove a spectacular destination.Ernieps - As for Bart's pictures and review ... fantastic as always, even for a ship I am caring less and less about.
I agree completely with you Ernie. I'm sick to here the name Cunard alone. I hear at least 3 interviews on the net and al 3 where about the dammed line and the f..... QV. Not to think what happen when Eurodam enter service and the compare between the two. I'm sure who gonna Winn QV afcorse.....
Personally i think the most important new ships on the horizon are the Celebrity vessels. Yes I'm looking forward to see theme, most there interiors.
And Norway excellent choice it's so beautifull.......Bon Voyage.
Greetings Ben.
quote:Originally posted by Maasdam:Not to think what happen when Eurodam enter service....Greetings Ben.
Eurowhat?
quote:Originally posted by Maasdam:I agree completely with you Ernie. I'm sick to here the name Cunard alone. I hear at least 3 interviews on the net and al 3 where about the dammed line
I agree completely with you Ernie. I'm sick to here the name Cunard alone. I hear at least 3 interviews on the net and al 3 where about the dammed line
EXCUSE ME!!?!!!! I think you mean GREAT Line!
quote:Originally posted by Maasdam: and the f..... QV.
and the f..... QV.
-Fabulous Queen Victoria
-Fantastic Queen Victoria
-Freakishly Great Queen Victoria
-Fancy Queen Victoria
-Famous Queen Victoria
-Favored Queen Victoria
-Full Of Wonders Queen Victoria
-Fascinating Queen Victoria
-Fine Queen Victoria
-First-class Queen Victoria
-Fortitudinous Queen Victoria
-Fair Queen Victoria
-Favorable Queen Victoria
-Fashionable Queen Victoria
-Foxy Queen Victoria
-Fun Queen Victoria
-Fervent Queen Victoria
-Friendly Queen Victoria
I think thats it. lol
quote:Originally posted by Cunard Fan:-Famous Queen Victoria
(Sorry, only veterans of 'the famous QE2' will know what I'm talking about.)
quote:Originally posted by dougnewman: I tell you the truth .(Sorry, only veterans of 'the famous QE2' will know what I'm talking about.)
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[ 02-15-2008: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]
quote:Originally posted by desirod7:On Liner's List QV is called Mrs. Brown.Her Golden Lion Pub works better than on Mary2 where the space and the detail is all wrong.
Yes. The Theatre is probably nicer, but less-Hi Tech, and I liked the QV Commodore Club although I liked the QM2's too.
In all other departments the QM2 wins hands down.
quote:Originally posted by eroller: I will be onboard for 12 days and at the moment I'm not overly excited about the trip. If nothing else, Norway should prove a spectacular destination.
Ernie, the decor is just the 'backdrop'. The more intimate atmosphere on board (than the QM2), the Cunard 'cultural' experience and Norway itself should make it a memorable cruise.
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:Yes. The Theatre is probably nicer, but less-Hi Tech, and I liked the QV Commodore Club although I liked the QM2's too. In all other departments the QM2 wins hands down.
I did see renderings of what the QM2 Golden Lion was supposed to look like. It got lost in the execution. The "basement rec room" chairs were not present but with something more innovative yet contextual, The bus station tin strip ceiling was supposed to be pressed tin tiles which are common in 1900-1939 buildings. Even so I recall few British pubs with a double height ceiling.German Beer Halls, that is another story.
Hmmmm, maybe German Beer Halls will be the next contrived kitsch theme for cruiseships.
IMO Queen Mary 2 is the greatest ship of the third millenium
I might be a little oldfashioned in this regard, but a liner without teak decks doesn´t go along IMHO. (I was even upset about QM2 having a few small areas with rubber surface like the "propeller garden" or childern´s pool deck on the otherwise beautifully teak deck finished ship - but seeing the decks of QV leaves me very disappointed).
Greetings,YoShip.
Cunard need to learn better marketing, yes give people info etc. but at least have something to back it up, QM2 at least was the biggest, the only new OL in decades etc etc. she is and was genuinely big news, QV isn't and wasn't.
She looks quite nice, but somehow just another cruise ship.
Frankly I am more excited by the new MSC Yacht Club on Fantasia.
Much more interested by the new Silver Dawn/Explorer/whatever she may be called.
Fascinated to know is Carnival Dream ever will get built.
Would love to know Princess's next design.
Ready to see if Seabourne can employ their older ships into new markets.
Definately more likely to book the Solstice than QV.
And intrigued to know just what will be on Genesis and willing to get whiplash when she eventually comes out as I spin to look at her.
Not sure QV comes in even in 10th place....she was so overhyped and so over talked about - and STILL IS !
quote:Originally posted by YoShip:I simply can´t understand why Cunard built a "liner" without any use of teak deck (even the promenade deck has the rubber surface with the black strips immitating teak...).I might be a little oldfashioned in this regard, but a liner without teak decks doesn´t go along IMHO. (I was even upset about QM2 having a few small areas with rubber surface like the "propeller garden" or childern´s pool deck on the otherwise beautifully teak deck finished ship - but seeing the decks of QV leaves me very disappointed).Greetings,YoShip.
I agree with YoShip about the decks, if you don't have teak, then put the other material but don't put a material that imitates teak and can be seen as an imitation from a mile away.
I also agree with Ernie, QV is just another Vista, I can see many other ships over and over again and not get as bored, except for the Carnival Fantasy-class.
quote:Originally posted by YoShip: but a liner without teak decks doesn´t go along IMHO. Greetings,YoShip.
YoShip, the true thoroughbred liner SS United States did not have teak decks and no wood onboard except for the butcher block and the piano.
I agree with Carlos that the fake teak is truly tacky like a clip-on tie or polyester clothing.
If they have to use plastic, make it look like plastic. Nobody complained about the Neotex used on the SS United States.
quote:Originally posted by desirod7:YoShip, the true thoroughbred liner SS United States did not have teak decks and no wood onboard except for the butcher block and the piano.I agree with Carlos that the fake teak is truly tacky like a clip-on tie or polyester clothing. If they have to use plastic, make it look like plastic. Nobody complained about the Neotex used on the SS United States.
There are of course many examples of passenger ships without teak deck. Nevertheless, the audience of Cunard expects a certain cliche of an 'old liner' which is not even remotely similar to the S.S. United States. It is very inconsistent at best to decorate a ship this way and then not have a teak deck. Nevertheless, whereas many people might take notice of that they might believe that it 'has to be that way' these days.
quote:Originally posted by Ernst:It is very inconsistent at best to decorate a ship this way and then not have a teak deck. Nevertheless, whereas many people might take notice of that they might believe that it 'has to be that way' these days.
Cork compounds are a very good compromise between plastic and teak. Cork has the advantage of not being slippery when wet.
My memory is fuzzy but the NCL Dawn class uses a cork/plastic compound in their decking material.
Cork has the wet weather traction and the plastic adds to the durability.
The Godawful Carnival Victory has teak decks. Go figure.
quote:Originally posted by desirod7:Cork compounds are a very good compromise between plastic and teak. Cork has the advantage of not being slippery when wet. My memory is fuzzy but the NCL Dawn class uses a cork/plastic compound in their decking material. Cork has the wet weather traction and the plastic adds to the durability.The Godawful Carnival Victory has teak decks. Go figure.
The Freedom-class has the cork compound for decking in most areas including the exterior promenade. This material is not teak but it is very nice and yes it is not slippery at all. All Carnival ships except for Spirit-class I think, have teak decking, that's a very nice touch from Carnival and I don't know why they wouldn't do this on QV, $avings probably and they were also build at the same shipyards.
quote:Originally posted by desirod7:I agree with Carlos that the fake teak is truly tacky like a clip-on tie or polyester clothing.
How dare you insult my wardrobe!
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