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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 09-18-2007 05:14 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We do not talk about 'Art' too often here. So which ships currently in service have the best art work collection and why?
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Linerrich
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posted 09-18-2007 05:20 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I assume you're not referring to the "Art Auctions at Sea" collections, since they are pretty much identical on every ship!

Rich


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Johan
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posted 09-18-2007 05:31 PM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On RCI's "Jewel of the Seas" I was (pleasantly)surprised by the rather contemporary art onboard, in great numbers, also non-figurative etc.

J


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dmwnc1
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posted 09-18-2007 05:56 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I rather enjoyed the modern art of Galaxy, some of it a bit odd and bizarre, but quite different than say the beautiful romanticized art on Sun Princess or the more classical style on Rotterdam. Hated the 'art' on Costa Victoria and just about any Carnival ship.

Seems like the different lines gear their art in different directions so it is hard to say which is best.


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Carlos Fernandez
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posted 09-18-2007 06:01 PM      Profile for Carlos Fernandez   Author's Homepage   Email Carlos Fernandez   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Every ship has a bit of it's own personality when it comes to art, personally I like sculptures, not those neo-classical ones but rather contemporary.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 09-18-2007 06:10 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:
I assume you're not referring to the "Art Auctions at Sea"

No!


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mike sa
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posted 09-20-2007 05:26 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Has to go to Norwegian Dawn simply because of the priceless originals by true masters displayed in Le Bistro.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 09-20-2007 05:55 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mike sa:
Has to go to Norwegian Dawn simply because of the priceless originals by true masters displayed in Le Bistro.

What are they?


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Carlos Fernandez
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posted 09-20-2007 07:36 AM      Profile for Carlos Fernandez   Author's Homepage   Email Carlos Fernandez   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

What are they?


They are original works of Van Gogh, Monet and things like that located in the Bristo.

[ 09-20-2007: Message edited by: Carlos Fernandez ]


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Linerrich
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posted 09-20-2007 07:50 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Carlos Fernandez:

They are original works of Van Gogh, Monet and things like that located in the Bristo.

[ 09-20-2007: Message edited by: Carlos Fernandez ]


Right, there are 4 paintings in Le Bistro, by Matisse, Monet, Renoir, and Van Gogh. Very nicely-framed and really enhancing this elegant room. People are invited to come in and see them during non-dining hours.

Rich

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desirod7
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posted 09-20-2007 08:14 AM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Summit had very interesting art including art furniture on display from Charles Rennie Mc Intosh and others.

Except for the casino the Mille class is first rate all the way.

I hear the dawn class is from the Star Cruises CEO personal collection.

Hyacinth would say

quote:
I don't care for that modern rubbish, but I do like a frame that does not gather too much dust

quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:

Right, there are 4 paintings in Le Bistro, by Matisse, Monet, Renoir, and Van Gogh. Very nicely-framed and really enhancing this elegant room. People are invited to come in and see them during non-dining hours.

Rich

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 09-20-2007 04:29 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:
Right, there are 4 paintings in Le Bistro, by Matisse, Monet, Renoir, and Van Gogh.

Wow, that seems very generous of NCL.

I notice on many of the stair wells on the NCL newbuilds, they have giant photographs almost like wallpaper, rather than framed paintings. Although this can look very effective, I assume it's also a cheap way of providing art rather than commissioning paintings?


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mec1
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posted 09-20-2007 09:58 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
no contest - Celebrity wins hands down IMHO. The collection aboard Constellation is outstanding - particularly the brilliant acrylic garden weeds that occupy every landing of the forward stairwell.
Worst? A tie between The Emerald, whose staircases are adorned by what looks like the scribbling of a five year old and Crystal Serenity, which has clinical stairwells and cabin art that looks like bad jigsaw puzzles.

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Ernst
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posted 09-20-2007 10:02 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree. The masterpieces aboard Norwegian Dawn are an exception and not the decoration of the ship.

Art is not the strong point of Crystal (...this statue of the dancing couple in the Crystal Plaza - OMG - ) - beside that how was Crystal Serenity?


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eroller
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posted 09-20-2007 10:24 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I also feel in general the Celebrity fleet houses the best art work at sea. Christina Chandris hand selected the art for the early Celebrity ships, and many pieces are considered quite valuable.

One thing I like about the art on Celebrity. It evokes a reaction. People love it or hate it, but at least there is an emotion involved. Passengers actually stop to look at the art on Celebrity, and try to figure it out. I consider that a success.

On the contrary, the "paint by numbers" art on many Princess ships evokes no feelings at all. It's entirely forgettable and commissioned to offend no one.

Ernie


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dmwnc1
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posted 10-06-2007 04:14 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Art can sometimes be hidden on cruise ships on obscure stairwells, out of the way elevator lobbies, bathrooms, and on the ceilings, as was this one I stumbled across on one of my cruises. Any one know where it was from? The figures in the art are life-sized:


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posted 10-06-2007 05:12 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:
Art can sometimes be hidden on cruise ships on obscure stairwells, out of the way elevator lobbies, bathrooms, and on the ceilings, as was this one I stumbled across on one of my cruises. Any one know where it was from? The figures in the art are life-sized:


This is the ceiling of the Explorer Lounge a/b HAL ms. Rotterdam ('97) And is a recreation of the center piece of the Grand Lounge ceiling a/b the tss. Nieuw Amsterdam ('38) The original ceiling is now in the Rotterdam maritime museum.

Nieuw Amsterdam ceiling.

Greetings Ben.

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dmwnc1
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posted 10-06-2007 05:30 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
WELL DONE sir! Very interesting attachment you had there too. THANKS for the history lesson.
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jkwan12345
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posted 10-06-2007 06:17 PM      Profile for jkwan12345   Email jkwan12345   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Holland America?

on their website, they have some 30-40 minute ship specific guided tours for download

http://www.hollandamerica.com/onboard/podcast.do

ms Amsterdam
A significant collection of maritime paintings and ship models can be found onboard ms Amsterdam, offering an insight into maritime history. You will discover two striking fabric murals by textile artist, Barbara Bruckman, Ming Dynasty figures from 17th-century China and a magnificent Astrolab clock in the atrium. Also, a beautiful inlaid marble table crafted by artisans in the town of Pietrasanta, Italy. Sports fans will be delighted by the display of signed baseballs including a ball signed by legendary Yankees outfielder Joltin' Joe DiMaggio!


ms Maasdam
The wooden figurehead in the Lido restaurant is a stunning example of maritime art that can be found throughout ms Maasdam. Other intriguing art featured on the self-guided art tour are two abstract murals painted especially for the Rotterdam Dining Room, display cases filled with a collection of seven iron teapots and a charcoal brazier from Japan, which date from the end of Edo period. Also of interest is the set of marvelously detailed gilt and lacquered chests and an 18th-century ebony cabinet from England with reversed painting behind glass.

ms Noordam
Onboard ms Noordam you will discover museum-quality paintings such as an oil painting of the city of Utrecht painted in 1842, as well as contemporary art like the series of photographs of music greats Dizzy Gillespie and BB King. One of the most valuable pieces of furniture onboard the ship is a remarkable inlaid chest flanked by carved wooden 17th-century Baroque columns. Made in Germany in 1885, the chest is inlaid with ebony and precious stones.


ms Oosterdam
The stunning Waterford® crystal world globe in the Atrium on board ms Oosterdam is seven foot in diameter and was created using mouth blown and hand-cut lead crystal. Art pieces also include works by contemporary artists and nautical antiques. A rigging master's wooden ship model dating from 1810 and the dry card compass from the Galatea, the British yacht that competed in the 7th America's Cup yacht race, grace the Crow's Nest. At the Pinnacle Grill entrance is a jewel encrusted nautilus shell by Rodolfo Sanz and in the Lido Restaurant, an enormous painting by Robert Kushner.


ms Prinsendam
Art onboard ms Prinsendam includes a remarkable abstract marble sculpture of a Viking ship by contemporary Norwegian artist Nicholas Widerberg. The sculpture actually moves slightly with the movement of the ship. Also featured in the art tour are a series of paintings by impressionist painter Neil Pinkett, one of Cornwall's most prominent artists, an outstanding collection of Roman Amphorae from 50 - 150 AD and murals of striking angel portraits silk screened with gold leaf and accented with bold colors.

ms Rotterdam
On board ms Rotterdam you will find exact replicas of the huge clay army discovered buried in Xian, China. Other art pieces include remarkable clocks and time pieces, contemporary art by recognized artists, and antiques that represent the rich seafaring heritage of Holland America Line. A highlight of the tour is a beautiful 18th-century ship model carved from bone, which according to Frits Lowmeijer, Executive Director of the Maritime Museum in Rotterdam, "would be nice to put it in our collection."

ms Ryndam
A muzzle-loading canon from the 17th Century, found on the floor of the North Sea is one of the more unusual pieces of art onboard ms Ryndam. Other pieces of note include Lebigre and Roger's unique fountain showing fanciful dolphins and sea creatures, two murals inspired by global exploration by famed Dutch artist Gerti Bierenbroodsport and treasures such as the display of a quill pen, ink well and portable writing desk dating back to 1595.


ms Statendam
Highlights of the ms Statendam art tour include a pair of guilded bronze monkeys stationed outside the Piano Bar, a rare carved wooden figurehead of the Goddess Juno, the whimsical, yet functional ceramic lounges, Venetian glass flowers and antique styled lamps. Maritime art includes interesting maps and charts as well as a series of large marine oil paintings of Holland America ships painted by one of the world's leading marine painters, Captain Stephen J. Card.


ms Veendam
A floral theme is expressed through the art and decor onboard ms Veendam, from classic paintings of still life flowers to the stylized flowers in the small panels on the ceiling of the Piano Bar. During the art tour you will also discover a large collection of museum quality ship models, including valuable prisoner of war models made from bone. Other art pieces of interest are the round ceiling murals by Irish artist Wout Muller and rare tosei gusoku samurai armor from late 17th-century Japan.


ms Volendam
Art tour highlights onboard ms Volendam include a huge painting of a tulip by Tim Maguire, which has a wonderful luminous quality. You will also find an exquisite water color painting by Albert Herbert and a glass sculpture by Luciano Vistosi, who is known for creating monumental glass works. History enthusiasts will be enthralled by the display cases of rare pre-Colombian art including a female figure in earthenware found near Jalisco that dates from about 100 BC and an exceptional jaguar vessel found in Central America around 1500 AD.


ms Westerdam
Artist Susanna Holt's lifesize bronze dolphin sculpture graces the pool area onboard ms Westerdam. Art pieces range from a huge Indian silver-overlaid wood palace doorway at the entrance to the dining room that measures 92 inches by 69 inches to a 5-inch-long bone tobacco pipe carved in the shape of a woman's head. The most valuable piece is a painting of the Port of Rotterdam, and the oldest is a collection of 5,000-year-old pre-Columbian carved limestone figures from Ecuador.


ms Zaandam
An intricate 19th-century vase from the Meissen porcelain factory in Germany is one of the fascinating art pieces that can be found on board ms Zaandam. Other pieces of note include a glass sculpture by Italy's leading glass artist, Luciano Vistosi and a collection of museum-quality ship models. One of the themes on ms Zaandam is music. You'll find a grand organ in the center of the atrium and musical instruments, such as Bill Clinton's saxophone and signed guitars from Queen, Iggy Pop, Eric Clapton and the Rolling Stones, used as art objects throughout the ship.


ms Zuiderdam
A painting of Queen Beatrix by pop culture artist and icon, Andy Warhol, is one of the notable art works on board ms Zuiderdam. Art featured in the tour also includes medallions by Frank Lloyd Wright, cast aluminum elevator doors inspired by the art deco work of the New York Chrysler Building, and a massive floral painting by Charles Ben. You will also discover a large collection of antiques and centuries-old paintings throughout the ship.


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posted 10-06-2007 07:38 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jkwan12345:
On board ms Rotterdam you will find exact replicas of the huge clay army discovered buried in Xian, China.

Here:

The Rotterdam VI is probably my favorite ship. The enourmous arrangments of fresh flowers were art into themselves:

I loved the clock in the Atrium, thought it was magnificent:

As a side note we were parked next to the QE2 in New York on this cruise...does a ship in itself qualify as a work of art?


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