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Thad
quote:Originally posted by Thad:Figured I would place them in a new post as the other one was getting a little out of hand. I think the broadside view her is quite nice.Thad
Thanks Thad fore this replay i have removed the first picture. As i said it in previous treats the Vista's look nice. To compare the broadside QV picture i post here a broadside picture of the Oosterdam. The Oosterdam also looks good in this picture. Also clearly showing the (little?) diffrances between the two ships.
Greetings Ben.
Has anyone noticed the line of the bow on QV looks different to the previous Vista version - can't remember the 'technical' word but it looks as if it's curved in the same way as the Oceanic. Or is my eyesight and the camera angle???
Ken
quote:Originally posted by KenC:More great photos - head and shoulders above the HAL Vistas with those mean little potty funnels Has anyone noticed the line of the bow on QV looks different to the previous Vista version - can't remember the 'technical' word but it looks as if it's curved in the same way as the Oceanic. Or is my eyesight and the camera angle???Ken
Ken i wonder to. The whole look like the second picture is retouched look at the black stripes on the repro funnel. Compare the bow with the Oosterdam bow they are different.
Want to add that the paint job want to create a sheer as in the old liners as HAL dith with the R class vessel. I think it's not my cup of tea. I would opted fore the vista paint job it suites the Vista line much better.
[ 09-18-2007: Message edited by: Maasdam ]
The forced sheer line on QV forward could also have started farther aft-under the CUNARD signage further adding to the illusion of sheer. The steel on the aft promenade deck cut-out/supports are painted black which does not relate to white paint scheme far forward IMO.
I doubt she has a different style bow than other Vistas. I think the dark Federal Grey paint (and forced sheer line) gives the illusion that she has slightly inward curving style bow seen on some mid-1960s Italian ships.
quote:Originally posted by Maasdam:Ken i wonder to. The whole look like the second picture is retouched look at the black stripes on the repro funnel. Compare the bow with the Oosterdam bow they are different.Greetings Ben.[ 09-18-2007: Message edited by: Maasdam ]
As Ben posted, the broadside image of QV appears to have been touched up. In reality QV's hull is painted Federal Grey (a dark blue grey) and not pure black as seen in that image.
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:As Ben posted, the broadside image of QV appears to have been touched up. In reality QV's hull is painted Federal Grey (a dark blue grey) and not pure black as seen in that image.
However sometimes the federal gray does look like black because of lighting, time of day or your angle to the ship.
I too belive that it was touched up. I cannot see any windows in the hull. Even if the windows were taped up from overspray, you would still see the intentations...and the bow looks jagged on the edge..cruiseshipluver
original larger version of image
quote:Originally posted by cruiseshipluver:I too belive that it was touched up. I cannot see any windows in the hull. Even if the windows were taped up from overspray, you would still see the intentations...and the bow looks jagged on the edge..cruiseshipluver
You guys have been watching too many conspiracy theory shows. Here's a blow up of the original photo adjusted for the shadows. There are clearly portholes and windows visible.
quote:Originally posted by Fairsky:[...] Why can't they make these upper decks, so crucial to the profile of a ship, more sleek and uncluttered?
Because many of these machines have to be 'exposed' - like the radar or satellite antennas - it would be very difficult to hide them.
quote:Originally posted by Fairsky:I've noticed this trend on many newer ships. The upper decks, particularly around the funnel, seem cluttered and unkept with odd bits of machinery, vents, sattelite dishes, and odd bulkheads. On QV it ruins the elegence of her profile somewhat. Why can't they make these upper decks, so crucial to the profile of a ship, more sleek and uncluttered?
RCI seems to work with this very well. Ships belonging mostly to Carnival Corp. are not very sleek with this, most have the bits and pieces of things that are not coherent in the design, as we see with QV.
quote:Originally posted by KenC:More great photos - head and shoulders above the HAL Vistas with those mean little potty funnels....
When I first saw those Vista funnels I really disliked them. Yet over time I've actually become very fond of them. Though out of scale with the rest of the ship, they have a curious early 20th century steamer retro charm about them. And their close pairing reminds me of Michaelangelo (but unfortunately without that ships dramatic flair).
quote:Originally posted by Magic Pipe:The Queen Victoria's bow does indeed have less rake and more flare than the other Vistas. Her stem has a small amount of reverse curvature similar to that seen on the Grand Class, whereas the rest of the Vista's have a straight stem.
Wrong again Magic Pipe, the "reverse curvature" is simply an optical illisuion that is created by the fux-sheer of the hull's paint scheme. As per the builder's plans, the stem is identical to that of the Eurodam.
Tim
I bet when she enters service and meets her first storm somebody will be claiming that she cuts through those waves better than any other Vista class. (Probably due to the dark hull paint).
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