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mike sa
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posted 09-10-2007 07:15 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have heard that she is now sold but not who to, formal announcement soon, I wonder could this be Silversea ?
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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 09-10-2007 07:54 AM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi

It might be another ship for Swan Hellenic

Neil ( Bob )


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r.fiebig
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posted 09-10-2007 08:04 AM      Profile for r.fiebig   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm putting my money on Silversea.


Best,

Raoul


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Linerrich
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posted 09-10-2007 08:10 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This ship wouldn't seem to fit SilverSea's luxury profile, but word is that the buyer is an established cruise operator looking to get into a new and different market. So it's possible SilverSea wants to have a dedicated vessel to places like Antarctica, etc.

Rich


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mike sa
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posted 09-10-2007 09:52 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think it will be Silversea, perhaps Regent who are currently having to charter similar ?
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r.fiebig
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posted 09-25-2007 08:38 AM      Profile for r.fiebig   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is the announcement from Silversea:

quote:
SILVERSEA BUYS EXPEDITION SHIP WORLD DISCOVERER

Acquisition Opens Door to Antarctic Explorations

(Monaco -- September 25, 2007) Silversea Cruises' parent company, Silversea Cruises Group Ltd., announced today that it has purchased the expedition ship World Discoverer. The company took delivery of the vessel in Singapore on September 17. The ship will undergo a multi-million dollar refurbishment before it begins service in spring 2008.

"We're very excited about this acquisition, as it means we'll be able to further tap that segment of the luxury travel market that is adventure driven," said Manfredi Lefebvre, Silversea's chairman. "We have been looking into this segment for quite some time. When we were informed about the opportunity to buy World Discoverer, we took immediate action in a matter of days. We believe that exploration cruises can combine extremely well with an utterly exclusive product. With the addition of World Discoverer, our current fleet increases to five ships and to six in 2009, offering a more-expansive cruise schedule that encompasses all seven continents."

Amerigo Perasso, Silversea president, added, "We will be unveiling more details about World Discoverer, including the new name, in the next few weeks, when all the elements of the project will be finalized. However, at this time, I can advise that the refurbishment will extend to virtually every area of the ship. Although we will maintain much of the vessel's current configuration, which features all ocean-view accommodations, we will dramatically enhance and redesign a number of public spaces, as well as some of the accommodations, and even some aspects of the ship's external appearance. This will bring World Discoverer in line with our usual high standards, but with some modifications to better adapt the ship for the special needs of expedition cruises."

Perasso further elaborated, "The mix of innovative land programs, top-quality lecturers, enrichment programs and exotic destinations will enable us to offer a very special experience that will appeal to the most discerning world travelers. It just made good sense to grow our company with the addition of a vessel purpose-built for in-depth exploration and adventure in places far off the beaten path. World Discoverer is well suited to become the "best in class" for this type of operation."

After the planned refurbishment, World Discoverer will accommodate around 140 guests (reduced from current 175) in ocean-view staterooms, including Owner's Suites, Grand Suites, and 12 yet-unnamed suites that will be similar to the line's popular Silver Suites -- offering an intimate club-like ambiance that will deliver an expedition cruise experience consistent with Silversea's award-winning luxury standards.

Guests will also enjoy many amenities found on larger ships, such as an elegant single-seating main dining room, a specialty restaurant, library (with desktop computers and Internet access), boutique, beauty salon, fitness center, sauna and whirlpools. The ship will also feature several lounges for enjoying drinks, music and entertainment, including a cigar lounge like the Humidor on the line's other ships.

World Discoverer will be equipped with state-of-the-art satellite communication systems, providing bow-to-stern wireless Internet access, enabling guests with Wi-Fi-enabled laptops and PDAs to surf the Internet and check e-mails from the comfort of their suites as well as public areas. Cellular phone service will also allow guests to stay in touch using their own cell phones even when the ship is miles away from land. The vessel will also feature flat screen TVs in all suites and staterooms. In the ship's lounges, the latest audio-visual equipment, complete with high-definition video screens, will display live lectures hosted by visiting destination experts.

The ship will maintain the line's reputation for intimate yet spacious ships. And the vessel's crew complement of 106 will continue to ensure the highest level of service with a crew-to-guest ratio that will equal or exceed that of Silver Cloud and Silver Wind , thus being among the highest in this niche market.

The 6,072-ton vessel also boasts a strengthened hull with the highest Lloyd's Register ice-class notation (1A), appropriate for navigating waters, without an escort, in some of the world's most remote regions, including Antarctica.

Earlier this year the company finalized plans to purchase one 36,000-GRT, 540-guest, ultra-luxury vessel from Italian shipbuilder Fincantieri with delivery scheduled for the fourth quarter of 2009. The line has also signed an option for a sister ship with the same shipbuilder.



Best,

Raoul


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Carlos Fernandez
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posted 09-25-2007 12:19 PM      Profile for Carlos Fernandez   Author's Homepage   Email Carlos Fernandez   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So, it was Silversea and they also have an order for a newbuild at Fincantieri.
Thanks Raoul.

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Frosty 4
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posted 09-25-2007 12:41 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder what the ecological effects with a number of cruise lines now venturing into Antartic waters. I don't think anyone will actually put passengers ashore there,at least not yet. With the weather basically cold there all the time I'm not sure I would want to venture there anyway. Even in the Summer it was cool around the Horn and this is 700 miles further South.What are your thoughts??
Frosty 4

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Ernst
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posted 09-25-2007 12:59 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
[...] I don't think anyone will actually put passengers ashore there,at least not yet. [..]

Expedition cruise ships have bee putting passengers ashore in the Antarcitc FOR DECADES. They are nevertheless smaller than the typical cruise ship and some of these ships do a lot to prevent any damage to the sensitive environment.

It is a common cliche that regions where it is cold are not suitable for vacations - this is utterly wrong. A trip to polar regions is amongst the most fascinating things one can do.


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Linerrich
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posted 09-25-2007 01:07 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
People don't go to Antarctica for the weather--it's more for those travelers who "collect" unusual and unique destination experiences. Yes, one does go ashore there, typically a handful of people at a time in Zodiacs. These trips are quite expensive, but the ones who afford them aren't usually the type to do mass-market types of cruising, anyway.

Rich


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posted 09-25-2007 04:22 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
I don't think anyone will actually put passengers ashore there,at least not yet. With the weather basically cold there all the time..

The Marco Polo Cruise Ship used to do this each year, with her ice strengthened hull. Zodiac's were used. The cold is part of the attraction!

See Here Frosty Four.

[ 09-25-2007: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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Eric
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posted 09-25-2007 05:37 PM      Profile for Eric   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Frosty, the first tourists went to Antarctica in 1958 (I was there in 56!). Last year the coldest weather we experienced was a wind chill of -10c actual -2c in December, not cold really gets far worse in parts of North America. Some cruisers had it warmer than we did in Jan & Feb. the problem now is avoiding tourists down there, so many ships are going in spite of the expence. they must make lots of money at it, that is why Silversea are getting in on the act. Eric
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Frosty 4
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posted 09-25-2007 07:09 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good info. My concern was for the larger cruise lines going there. Are their hulls strong enough not be be a concern?The smaller reinforced ships can get in close enough to put passengers on the continent.but big ships will probably just cruise close enough for a look see. I think even at the extra cost I would take the smaller ships, after all not too many cruisers have set foot on Antartica.
F4

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mike sa
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posted 10-03-2007 07:35 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does anyone have a pic of the ship I really can't recall what she looks like, or a link ?
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Linerrich
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posted 10-03-2007 09:58 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mike sa:
Does anyone have a pic of the ship I really can't recall what she looks like, or a link ?

It's hard to find recent photos of her, since Society Expeditions folded up a few years ago and the ship has been laid up. You can see some older photos of her here.

Rich


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mike sa
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posted 10-03-2007 11:08 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Rich, well certainly as is she will not win any prizes for good looks, almost looks like she was built ut of lego ! However Silversea they are to make some structural changes that will effect her profile so who knows she may improve. I bet they will add balconies somehow.

I certainly look forward to their itineraries, ok Antartic and possibily Artic are certains, Galapogos perhaps, South Pacific, upper reaches of the Amazon, I do hope they try some of Africas less well known areas including navigating one or two of her rivers to reach the interiors of the "darkest continent". Now those I would love to try out. I sincerely hope that they do really try out unknown and very much lesser explored routes wiht this ship and they don't just end up doing the Antartic and then a number of everyday been there type destinations already served by others.


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posted 10-03-2007 11:18 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's a few nice photos here.

Pam


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mike sa
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posted 10-04-2007 01:37 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Pam - so she does actually have some balconies, nice observation lounge etc. I hope Silversea manage to round out her profile with the new additions there are so many boxy objects sitting around up top. She could look stunning - she reminds me a bit of the old Atlas of Epirikoti Line. If SS do her internal areas up to their normal standard she might be hard to beat in the expedition market. Wonder what the name might be, Silver Discovery/Discovery or Expedition sounds a bit weird. Silver Quest would be good but has been used.
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posted 10-04-2007 07:39 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mike sa:
[...]If SS do her internal areas up to their normal standard she might be hard to beat in the expedition market. [...]

Don't forget Hanseatic - it will not be easy to beat that - even with major modifications to World Discoverer.


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