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Originally posted by Fairsky:
...Strangely, the new photo at the top seems to show the funnel pipes are silver or gray not black. They look terrible--really destorying the look of the funnel.

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I am sure that they will turn black as soon as they start being used.

Well you would do, would'nt you!

Are they ever going to correct the funnel color of the QM2?

A while ago Gerry gave us a long explanation about Cunard 'Red'. I'll try and find it.

[ 07-10-2007: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]

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Originally posted by Fairsky:
I don't understand why the funnel pipes have to protrude above the casing. It just looks frumpy and not nearly as elegent as QM2's cleaner funnel design. And, of course, neither of the new queens matches QE2's funnel.

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Originally posted by Fairsky:
Here's a shot of the model's funnel:

Strangely, the new photo at the top seems to show the funnel pipes are silver or gray not black. They look terrible--really destorying the look of the funnel.

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Wow, are there any more photos of the QV model, or is this the only one?

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Originally posted by Cunard Fan:

Are they ever going to correct the funnel color of the QM2?

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I guess when someone in charge notices or cares about the company history-including livery.

Cunarders had the orange/red funnel, white upperdecks, Federal grey hulls (a dark blueish grey) and deep red boot topping w/a 6" white dividing line between the hull paint. Of course there have been the green and white Cunard cruise ships as well-some w/green boot toppings.

A design like it has been used on QE2 or QM2 is not applicable for all ships - QE2 and QM2 have the funnel midships. (and are a bit faster)

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Originally posted by Ernst:
The aeordynamically ideal funnel would be a long, thin pipe - to approximate that exhaust pipes protrude beyond the funnel on most ships so that they are exposed to an undisturbed flow (many funnels are actually only disturbing the airflow) - this is why they are visible on most ships - and why many funnels try to be 'transparent' for the airflow.

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This explains the popularity of "birdcage" funnels. I understand that reducing wind resistance is functionally beneficial, but designers need to realize that funnels serve a function beyond the mechanical expulsion of fumes. For most people they are the primary, or only, visual marker of a ship's identity or brand.

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Originally posted by Thad:
This is the best picture of the model from that collection of images from Barryboat. I think she looks pretty nice personally.

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Thanks for posting that photo! I agree too! I think the QV will be a fine looking ship, and without a doubt the best-looking of the Vista-Spirit-Arcadia Class of ships!

Carnival does tend to receive alot of bashing in it's decision to use an already available hull-form for the QV - but I think what needs to be remembered is what Carnival has done for Cunard as a brand. There would have been no way that Cunard would have been able to build a worthy successor (the QM2) to the QE2 on it's own.

Personally in an ideal world, I would have loved Carnival/Cunard to have built a totally unique QV, but the world isn't perfect. I think Cunard now is back on track, with it's own identity again (even though QV's hull may not be unique) and is focused with two sparkling new ships!

Carnival isn't totally focussed on profits as has been mentioned on previous topics. I mean, if that was the case, they wouldn't have transfered the original QV to P&O as the Arcadia. Even though the media coverage of the QM2 would have meant that the original QV would have filled up with passengers. They did this because she did not fit the brand and the theme that had been set with the QM2 and thus decided on creating the QV(2) of which is a perfect 'sister' to the QM2 (in comparison to the interiors of the Arcadia).

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Originally posted by Fairsky:

This explains the popularity of "birdcage" funnels. I understand that reducing wind resistance is functionally beneficial, but designers need to realize that funnels serve a function beyond the mechanical expulsion of fumes. For most people they are the primary, or only, visual marker of a ship's identity or brand.

An unattractive funnel, or one that fails to display a line's logo clearly, is a terrible failure of design even if it dispells smoke effeciently. I think recent Princess funnel fall into this category. I just don't want to see Cunard fall victim to function over form as well.

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Originally posted by br1ghtonbo1:
I think the QV will be a fine looking ship, and without a doubt the best-looking of the Vista-Spirit-Arcadia Class of ships!

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Be careful you are being taken in by the illusion!

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I think the QV will be a fine looking ship, and without a doubt the best-looking of the Vista-Spirit-Arcadia Class of ships

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I agree. It may not be popular on this site but she appears quite attractive. The funnel is undoubtedly a nod to Cunard tradition and for most pax that will be enough.

about funels - we have to agree i think, that Carnival has the best funnel deign in terms of publicity, promotion, identity etc..

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Originally posted by reeves35:

Pax are quite accepting that a United Airlines 747 looks the same as a Singapore Airlines 747 but they also know that the service experience inside the Singapore plane will be superior and they will pay extra for that experience.

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