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Saone
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posted 06-07-2007 07:57 PM      Profile for Saone   Email Saone   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The M.V.Funchal must have been the worst cruise ship ever.

They must think Australians will accept the European garbage ship to cruise around on as they send the worst here.

The cruise from Fremantle to Harwich that began on May 20th 2007 was the most dissapointing I have ever encounted.

Not only was there no facilities for people to get a tea or coffee all day with out being charged an arm or a leg.

Everything was an extra. Even daily water.

The rooms are so old is a wonder they had flushing toilets (most of the time they didn't).The bathrooms flooded after each shower.

There were no safes in the rooms you had to purchase a safty deposit box at recieption. The rooms were not fitted with fridge or TV.

So many people got sick with the Funchal Flue or the Funchal Belly, it was no longer fun to do things. One passenger so ill that they had to be evacuated by hellicopter.

Another injured with a fall and broken bone, While the ship was manovering for the hellicopter and was told it was an act of god.

I would not recomend this ship to carry animals.


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Aussie1
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posted 06-07-2007 11:26 PM      Profile for Aussie1   Email Aussie1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Saone, your experience sounds awefull. I visited the ship when she came to Sydney last year and thought she looked quite cosy with all her wood panelling but the press at that time was full of stories of passengers catching serious flus. She originally came to Australia instead of being laid up over the Nothern Winter, which had been the norm for many years. Hoping things get better before she comes again at the end of this year.
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mike sa
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posted 06-08-2007 12:33 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sounds like it was not up to expectation at all, it does strike me that often the negative reviews etc are sometimes a result of the marketing messages given out by the cruise companies and agencies. We all know what it is when you buy Holiday Inn compared to Four Seasons but many many people do not realise that cruise ships are the same especially given the brochure talk with the liberal use of "luxury, pampering, gourmet, etc" even for the oldest of ships etc. A star rating system that companies should be forced to use would help, I am sure that no one here would disagree that say Princess/HAL offer a 4 star product, most first timers etc would understand what that mean't, Costa offers a 3 star ?, RCI would be 3 (Empress?) to 4, Cunard offers from 4 to 5 depending on the cabin/suite etc. Louis would be a 2/3 depending on ship etc. Perhaps a lot of disappointment would be avoided if the cruise lines across the board were forced to advertise what star rating each ship offered. Price is not always a good indicator especially with discounts etc.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-08-2007 05:18 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mike sa:
Sounds like it was not up to expectation at all, it does strike me that often the negative reviews etc are sometimes a result of the marketing messages given out by the cruise companies and agencies.

Good point!

If you read a budget cruise line brochure and a premium/deluxe one, the claims about fine food, spacious ships, great service etc. are all very similar.


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Maasdam
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posted 06-08-2007 06:20 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mike sa:
Sounds like it was not up to expectation at all, it does strike me that often the negative reviews etc are sometimes a result of the marketing messages given out by the cruise companies and agencies. We all know what it is when you buy Holiday Inn compared to Four Seasons but many many people do not realise that cruise ships are the same especially given the brochure talk with the liberal use of "luxury, pampering, gourmet, etc" even for the oldest of ships etc. A star rating system that companies should be forced to use would help, I am sure that no one here would disagree that say Princess/HAL offer a 4 star product, most first timers etc would understand what that mean't, Costa offers a 3 star ?, RCI would be 3 (Empress?) to 4, Cunard offers from 4 to 5 depending on the cabin/suite etc. Louis would be a 2/3 depending on ship etc. Perhaps a lot of disappointment would be avoided if the cruise lines across the board were forced to advertise what star rating each ship offered. Price is not always a good indicator especially with discounts etc.

Mike i disagree with HAL offering 4 star service it's 5 star and much better then Cunard . Agree with the rest of you're comment.

It seems that passengers Mr and Ms Noro Virus where a/b.

Greetings Ben.


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phil_a
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posted 06-08-2007 06:56 AM      Profile for phil_a   Email phil_a   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Saone- sorry to hear of your bad experience.

It will be interesting to see how Classic Int. Cruises do this summer now that Star Cruises & Princess are deploying ships here for a few months. If i had to choose i know where my money would go!

With regards to $$$... the prices for Funchal's shorter cruises are pretty steep. were talking AUD$200+ per person per night. Altho I have not cruised with CIC, i cant see it being very good value.


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-08-2007 01:39 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Other than her intimate size, what are the benefits of cruising on this ship? Is she considered a 'luxury' ship or more of a bargain cruiser??
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Pascal
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posted 06-08-2007 01:56 PM      Profile for Pascal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've the feeling it's a budget hardware priced as if it was luxury. However, I nonetheless would love to sail on her.
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-08-2007 02:23 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Pascal:
I've the feeling it's a budget hardware priced as if it was luxury. However, I nonetheless would love to sail on her.

I guess the competition from the coming modern mega cruise ships will give her (and the high fares) a run for the money.
Sounds like this little beauty should either be a discounted (based on the aged hardware) cruiser or refitted into a luxury 'niche' ship IMO.


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PamM
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posted 06-08-2007 03:26 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
She is very much a discounted vessel. Her to/from Aus trips have been *very* cheap. Next Nov her southbound trip Piraeus to Fremantle is from £1299 for 29 nights. I would not expect much for those prices.

Pam

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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 06-08-2007 06:09 PM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pam M

I agree !

The prices they charge for their voyages to and from Australia are far below those of P&O.

General reports suggest the ship is well maintained and the staff do an excellent job, however with an older ship you can have problems and that is part of the fun of taking a voyage on them.

I would suggest if you are not happy with your trip on the Funchal, next time before you book you go opel mining, and maybe earn enough to travel by one of the newer P&O ships.


Neil ( Bob )


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Patrick
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posted 06-09-2007 03:21 AM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Better to check out first on which ship you are booking. The FUNCHAL is a classic, older vessel, which, for my personal taste, is much nicer than the huge shoe-boxes sailing around. But it's a matter of taste and what you are looking for. If you expect a ship with P&O facilities or Princess-type, you should have never booked the FUNCHAL !

From my point of view this happened clearly due to the wrong information given to you by the agency.

Anyway, I know the FUNCHAL as a charming older ship which does a good job in the segment she is sailing for.


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Willem
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posted 06-11-2007 07:05 AM      Profile for Willem        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by phil_a:

With regards to $$$... the prices for Funchal's shorter cruises are pretty steep. were talking AUD$200+ per person per night. Altho I have not cruised with CIC, i cant see it being very good value.

Well, that's only approx Euro 126,-- which is not expensive.


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mike sa
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posted 06-11-2007 07:19 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Given Crystal rates as 5 star I would have thought that HAL is definately a 4 along with Celebrity, Princess (just) etc. 6 stars would be Seabourne, Silversea etc. Cunard is 4 star unless you are a grill pax which rate 5.
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Pascal
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posted 06-11-2007 08:36 AM      Profile for Pascal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mike sa:
Given Crystal rates as 5 star I would have thought that HAL is definately a 4 along with Celebrity, Princess (just) etc. 6 stars would be Seabourne, Silversea etc. Cunard is 4 star unless you are a grill pax which rate 5.

I don't consider 6 stars exists, it's just about promotion. In France (and I think we may be considered as a reference in the hotel buisness), the maximum is 4 stars. However, the most luxurious of the 4 stars have the right to add a little "L" for "luxe", so ****L would be equivalent to 5 stars, and that's the maximum.

For cruise lines I would say :
-Regent, Silversea, Crystal, SeaDream, Hapag Lloyd Europa : *****
-HAL, Celebrity, Cunard, Oceania : ****
-Carnival, RCI, Costa, P&O, Princess, NCL (most recent ships), MSC, Fred Olsen : ***
-Aida, Ocean Village, Old NCL ships, Pullmantur, Iberojet : **
-Louis, Golden Star and the other budget lines : *
- No star : Easy Cruise.

Funchal would be something like 2 stars.

Anyway rating vessels, just like hôtels, is quite subjective. A 4 star vessel may actualy be better than a 5 star one, depending of one's expectations, crexw efficiency, cuisine originality, range of amenities, etc...


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sparkieplug24
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posted 07-29-2007 06:23 PM      Profile for sparkieplug24     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Was on the funchal May last year to Baltics it was a great experience. I really enjoyed myself and would go on the ship again if I had the chance although I would not do more than two weeks on this ship.

Also its interesting to see that there were so many people got sick as a very large porportion of the people on my cruise also became ill with stomach viruses (we were lucky we werent ill). This was blamed on the plumbing and this was said by a member of staff.

Also when we went prices were very reasonable tea and coffee was served morning and afternoon and early evening (at set times) and water was free at all times.

Donna


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seabourndt
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posted 07-31-2007 03:42 PM      Profile for seabourndt   Email seabourndt   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
very interesting reading this topic. i did a short cruise on her a few years ago and liked it. but did a longer cruise from athens to freemantle. it started ok but after leaving jordan an engine fire and limped into safaga stayed there for a week. saw a lot of egypt, eventually flew most of us to australia. apart from that i enjoyed the ship. yesnit is a cheap way to go to asustralia. sorry to the person who had such a bad experience.
dave

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