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Topic: SILJA OPERA sold

Marlowe
First Class Passenger
Member # 1632

posted 05-23-2007 02:56 AM

or so claims Maritime Transportation Consultants

anyone know whom to?

also can anyone identify the first ship listed on the same page?

quote:
1,680 PASSENGER CRUISE SHIP FOR SALE

[ 05-23-2007: Message edited by: Marlowe ]

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recab
First Class Passenger
Member # 1677

posted 05-23-2007 03:06 AM

See "Louis buys Opera" under Cruise Lines.

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Cunard Fan
First Class Passenger
Member # 7530

posted 05-23-2007 03:06 AM

She was just sold to Louis Cruises.

See here

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r.fiebig
First Class Passenger
Member # 5240

posted 05-23-2007 07:00 AM

quote:
also can anyone identify the first ship listed on the same page?

Costa Classica.

Best,

Raoul

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Pascal
First Class Passenger
Member # 5510

posted 05-24-2007 04:04 AM

quote:
Originally posted by r.fiebig:
Costa Classica.

Best,
Raoul

That is weird, knowing that Carnival Corp is reluctant to sale to competitors any of their vessels and considering that Costa Classica is far from being the most outdated ship in the Costa fleet (Allegra,Marina and Europa would come first IMO) and is still quite popular with pax.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 05-24-2007 07:12 AM

Sometimes a cruise line will set terms with the sale of a ship. They may have stated something to the effect of the buyer must not directly compete with Carnival brands itineraries.

I know Cunard did this when they sold their ship to Saga.

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Pascal
First Class Passenger
Member # 5510

posted 05-24-2007 07:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
Sometimes a cruise line will set terms with the sale of a ship. They may have stated something to the effect of the buyer must not directly compete with Carnival brands itineraries.
I know Cunard did this when they sold their ship to Saga.

I'm aware of this, Malcolm. But I guess it wasn't a real issue for Saga as their restricted 50 years old + niche was quite likely to be enough for Carnival. On the other hand, there's as well the case of the old Nieuw Amsterdam and Noordam sold to Louis, chartered to Thomson and now in a close competition with Carnival UK brands such as Ocean Village or P&O (Ok, P&O may not be at the same category).
But anyway Costa Classica is still a quite decent ship which still fits well in Costa's fleet. And even if it wasn't the case anymore, Carnival owns plenty other brands which would be quite happy to have this vessel transfered to them. For example, I'm pretty sure our Australian cruise talkers would love to see such a ship in the P&O Australia fleet.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 05-24-2007 08:42 AM

No need to be worried - the fact that a ship is listed on such a page means more or less nothing (concering whether the ship will be sold soon or not) - some brokers even have brand new cruise ships on their webpage.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 05-24-2007 09:12 AM

Costa Classica has been on the sales lists for a few months & has been mentioned on CT as such before. Not sure who would be interested in her though, too little deck space for hot climes imo.

Back to Opera, she was smoking nicely yesterday at Tilbury. I am wondering if anyone has any idea when she is likely to be departing for Greece? I expect they are working hard on the engines to make sure she gets there with no problem at the outset.

I thought someone may have noticed her in the Blue Moon photo posted last night in this thread. Here's another pic from 31 knots taken across the Thames from Gravesend.

Pam

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mike sa
First Class Passenger
Member # 5957

posted 05-25-2007 09:13 AM

Always thought Opera was a nice looking ship though a bit awkward layout wise and I never got used to the showroom location, but at 50 million (less than) she wasn't a bad buy given at that price you could afford to spend quite a few more on mechanicals and softies etc. Hopefully they will look after her, she will not hit anything and will have a long and successful career in the Med.

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Marlowe
First Class Passenger
Member # 1632

posted 05-25-2007 11:06 PM

I know an ex chief engineer of the OPERA when she was the LEEWARD and his opinions aren't too positive of the ship from a machinery standpoint. Still with such a tight market for 2nd hand tonnage, Louis most likely will come out OK with adding her to their fleet.

Now the question I have is what the price tag on the COSTA CLASSICA would be?

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