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jeremya
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posted 07-15-2006 01:11 PM      Profile for jeremya   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
By Paul Tait Thu Jul 13, 9:00 AM ET
Yahoo News Online/Reuters News Service


SYDNEY (Reuters) - It began as the holiday of a lifetime but descended into a lurid spiral of alcohol, drugs and sexual predators for a suburban mother of three whose humiliating death at sea could help change the global cruise industry.

A coroner's inquest into the 2002 death of Dianne Brimble on board the P&O liner Pacific Sky has shocked Australia with its graphic descriptions of her treatment by a group of men she met on board.

The inquest has heard that Brimble, 42, died of an overdose of gamma hydroxybutyrate, a "date rape" drug also known as fantasy, mixed with a high blood alcohol level.

No charges have been laid and the inquest is being held to determine the circumstances in which she died.

Her family has joined an international group set up by victims of other apparent crimes at sea in demanding cruise ships be made more accountable and better protect passengers.

International Cruise Victims (ICV) says at least 18 people are believed to have gone missing from cruise ships since 2004.

"When you put 3,000 people on a piece of metal floating around in the ocean, you would expect things are going to happen," Diane Brimble's former husband told Reuters.

"Why should they be a law unto themselves?" said Mark Brimble, who represents ICV in Australia after being contacted by the group's American founders.

DRUNKEN PREDATORS

The coronial inquiry has attracted blanket media coverage, making it one of the highest-profile inquests since the infamous backpacker murders in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

It has painted an unflattering picture of predatory, drunken behavior, where nudity and public sex were said to be common, and of a flawed and delayed investigation.

Local media have shown photographs of a beaming Brimble boarding the ship in September 2002 with her then-12-year-old daughter, her sister and friends at the start of a South Pacific cruise for which she had saved for two years.

Within hours Brimble was lying naked and dead in the cabin of four men whose main concern was that the death of a woman one of them described as a "dog" had ruined their holiday.

The inquest last month began hearing testimony from the first of eight men, all gym and nightclub friends, who police describe as "persons of interest." Unemployed store clerk Letterio Silvestri said in the transcript of a police interview that he had brushed Brimble off when she spoke to him in a bar soon after the ship sailed because she appeared drunk and was not his type.

"She smelt, she was black and she was ugly," he told police.

"Anything that's over 60 kilos (132 pounds), I don't talk to," he said.

Silvestri said he left the bar and went back to the cabin he shared with three friends, took three sleeping tablets and went to bed.

He said he later awoke to find Brimble in bed with him and trying to arouse him for sex. Silvestri said he pushed her onto the cabin floor and went back to sleep.

"Apparently she helped herself to me," Silvestri said.

Silvestri, who demanded an apology from the ship's captain, told the inquest that cabin-mate Mark Wilhelm had given Brimble the drug when he brought her back to the cabin.

Melvyn Armitage, a former P&O passenger services director on the ship, said Silvestri became agitated when he was stopped from returning to the cabin while a doctor and two nurses tried to revive Brimble.

"He was saying, 'Get the bitch out of my room, that's my room'," Armitage told the inquest in June.

The inquest has heard from other passengers who accused Silvestri and some of his friends of "cruising for sex" and offering to pay a teen-age girl to dance in their cabin the night after Brimble died.

P&O has said it deeply regrets Brimble's death but could not comment on her case, although it said it has increased security on its ships since the inquest began.

"We cannot begin to imagine what Mrs Brimble and her family went through and we are determined to do everything in our power to ensure that this never happens again on board one of our ships," P&O Cruises Australia said in an April statement.

The inquest has heard a string of damaging testimony, including claims staff had tried to cover up Brimble's death.

Kathleen Taylor, a night shift manager on board the Pacific Sky, told the inquest that incidents of nudity and public sex on board P&O cruise ships happened up to 20 times a night.

P&O said after that testimony that unruly passengers would be kicked off future cruises.

LOST AT SEA

International Cruise Victims has lobbied the U.S. Congress with a 10-point plan to tighten security on board cruise ships and address what it sees as a fundamental problem: the hazy legal jurisdiction of ships once they enter international waters.

The advocacy group was formed early this year after several U.S. families found they had similar cruise ship horror stories after family members mysteriously disappeared at sea.

It lists dozens of cases of apparent crimes at sea.

The group wants faster reporting, revision of alcohol-serving procedures on cruises and tighter security including independent marshals on board ships.

"It's to post international police on a boat and have them being independent to the ship itself because cruise liners are driven by profit, they're not driven by responsibility, security and safety," Mark Brimble said.

P&O has just announced it will refund Brimble's fare. An earlier insurance claim lodged by the family was rejected because illegal drugs were listed as the cause of death.


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Patsy
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posted 07-15-2006 01:24 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Aww diddums. Since when were they the victims? Make me sick they do.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 07-15-2006 05:34 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It sounds like a complex tale of men and women all possibly seeking drink, drugs and sex:

See Here

And Here

[ 07-15-2006: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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Linerdan
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posted 07-15-2006 07:13 PM      Profile for Linerdan   Email Linerdan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This has been very high topic in the news here in our country.Suddenly alot of people have looked and taken notice that not all cruises are like the "Love Boat" program.In fact i know of 2 people (and there familys) that have cancelled there upcoming trips with P&O since this all came out in the open.

P&O here in Oz will really need to clean up there image to the travelling public (especially the 1st timers) that it is safe to go on a cruise and to have fun.They will also need to:
*Act on recommadations made by the courts.
*Prove to the travelling public that they safe.
*Take crime/incident scenes more seriously.
*Advise better warnings to take care while
drinking (the same bars to on land).


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Sutho
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posted 07-15-2006 09:48 PM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
P&O were pretty slack after the events by allowing the men to clean up the crime scene and never disembarking them from the ship. It appears they were more worried about not ruining those eight mens holiday opposed to the 1500 other passengers that were disturbed by those men.

Nether the less our anger should be directed at those pathetic excuses for human beings and not P&O.

One thing I find amazing is that guy who told police he does not want anything to do with woman over 60kg. As I spend a bit of time at the gym I can tell you for a fact that some of the best looking women of athletic build around 5'7 height weigh in around 62 t0 65kg and some taller fitness models over 6'0 weigh in close to 70kg.

It was actually quite funny that remark because it came back to haunt him years later when the judge holding the inquest questioned him about it and basically said "you want women smaller than you because you are only a little man yourself". The fact is the scum who made that statement is only 5'5 and pretty short and small for a guy!!! Guess that is why he needs to drug women to sleep with them because of his small complements!!!


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Joe99
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posted 07-30-2006 07:08 PM      Profile for Joe99     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dishonest crew members don't help either. See link.

[ 07-30-2006: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]


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andrews
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posted 07-31-2006 12:48 AM      Profile for andrews     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, but without him they wouldn't have got the evidence! In this case it was a good thing he was slightly dishonest - might help justice deal with some people who behaved even worse.
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desirod7
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posted 07-31-2006 10:18 AM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Another reason they need
hookers on board

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Rex
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posted 07-31-2006 10:01 PM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This guy sounds like a vile creep. Too bad they don't have the death penalty where he's from.
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Sutho
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posted 08-01-2006 02:28 AM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
with regards to this memory stick with the photos I can only guess what happened.

The scum who took the photos of their "prey" wanted to keep the photos as a souveneir, they knew there was a chance that they could get caught so the hid it on the ship hoping to collect it later when the incident cooled down. The little boy found it and handed it in.

Obviously a device like that could contain photos and possibly identifying information about the owner so it would make sense that the staff looked at it.

What makes even more sense is claiming it was stolen and handing it in as with technicalities in law these days the scums lawyers could have had it ruled inadmissable if it was not seized without a warrant.

Hence I believe the story was manufactured by law enforcement to get it into evidence without being disputed.


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Sutho
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posted 08-03-2006 11:49 PM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by desirod7:
Another reason they need
hookers on board

Do you know how much they charge in Australia?

I saw a tv news report about it once as the industry is legal here in NSW Australia and companies offer women with model looks at prices up to A$4000 per hour!

If you want proof then look at www.highsociety.com.au or www.monalisamodels.com.au

That is the best example of prices I could find doing a yellow pages search - so if you wanted to hire one of those girls it may cost you more than the cruise! Personally I would rather spend my money on a cruise and try my luck on the ship than pay for a lady to come.


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