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Sutho
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posted 05-27-2006 12:21 AM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I noticed this release on P&O Australia's website.

P&O Cruises has announced an exotic new itinerary for Pacific Star – a six-week round trip voyage to Japan and China taking in many of the highlights of Asia, from the imperial capital of Kyoto to the dynamic metropolis of Shanghai and the golden palaces of Brunei.

Departing Sydney on March 8, 2008, the six-week cruise will visit 15 magical ports in Japan, China, South Korea, Borneo and the Pacific, and has been timed to coincide with Japan’s spectacular cherry blossom season.

Passengers will enjoy an eclectic mix of destinations, including some of the world’s most famous cities, such as Tokyo and Hong Kong, and historic WWII locations like Hiroshima and the island of Saipan.

The voyage represents P&O Cruises’ first visit to Japan in more than a decade, and will include return visits to many popular ports from past itineraries such as Rabaul in Papua New Guinea.

The cruise goes on sale June 1, with fares priced from $5245 per person compete quad-share or $9045 per person complete twin-share, including accommodation, all main meals and activities onboard.

P&O Cruises Managing Director Gavin Smith said he expected the voyage to be extremely popular with Australians keen to experience the diverse cultures and sights of Asia and the Pacific, while enjoying the comforts and ease of a cruising holiday.

Mr Smith described the cruise as a classic voyage, reminiscent of an era when cruise ships were the only way to visit far-off lands. The first round trip voyage to Japan from Australia was undertaken in 1957 by the famous P&O liner, Orcades.

“We’ve put together a fantastic itinerary for Pacific Star, featuring some of our region’s most exciting destinations, to create a truly memorable holiday. This is a cruise that passengers will talk about for years to come as they recall the many places they visited,” Mr Smith said.

After departing Sydney to sail to the Whitsundays and Darwin, Pacific Star will call at Bandar Seri Begawan, the capital of Brunei, famed for its golden, gem-encrusted buildings and magnificent mosques.

From there the 1350-passenger ship will sail to Sabah, and its capital Kota Kinabulu, gateway to one of the world’s largest rainforests, before heading to the bustling Chinese cities of Hong Kong and Shanghai.

Following a call at Pusan in South Korea, Pacific Star will cruise to Hiroshima, the first of three ports of call in Japan, which will coincide with the blooming of Japan’s national flower, the beautiful cherry blossom, known as sakura. The viewing of the cherry blossoms has been a Japanese custom for hundreds of years, with the stunning show of flowers prompting festivals and celebrations nationwide.

During its time in Japanese waters, Pacific Star will sail to Osaka to enable passengers to visit the historical city of Kyoto, as well as Yokohama, gateway to Japan’s enthralling capital, Tokyo.

Heading south through the Pacific the voyage will cruise by Iwo Jima, the site of an infamous World War II battle where thousands lost their lives. From there, Pacific Star will sail to the Mariana Island destinations of Saipan and Guam, both known for their beautiful beaches, before cruising to the pristine islands and vast atoll of Chuuk in Micronesia.

The journey will draw to a close as Pacific Star visits the Papua New Guinea town of Rabaul, occupied by the Japanese during WWII and home to an active volcano, then calls at Brisbane before returning to Sydney.

For more information and bookings on Pacific Star’s voyage to Japan and China contact a licensed travel agent or P&O Cruises on 13 2469 or visit www.pocruises.com.au


Good trip. Only problem is the ship! Who in their right mind would pay that kind of price for a six week voyage on a ship that has seen better days and not designed for long cruises.

I will be writing to P&O's customer relations and suggesting that the Pacific Dawn may be a better choice. I would go on that trip but deffinately will not book on Pacific Star. It is rubbish - It is no longer good enough for Carnival, Costa is moving on to bigger and better things and didnt want it and now us Australians get stuck with this floating peice of scrap metal.


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Waynaro
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posted 05-27-2006 02:10 AM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great itinerary! I wonder if this trip could be booked in segments? Six-weeks seems pretty long for a P&O Australia trip.

I agree PACIFIC STAR is not a good choice. PACIFIC PRINCESS would have been the best, followed by the PACIFIC DAWN. I haven't been on the ex. COSTA TROPICALE and certainly do not know her longer cruises success, but she worked for Costa right?


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posted 05-27-2006 02:15 AM      Profile for phil_a   Email phil_a   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
6weeks is the longest cruise offered by P&O Aus before... i dont think this is a private charter?

out of interest - how long did the pac sky's Asian series of cruises last? was it 4months? how sucessful was it? how did it rate up against star cruises?

why havent P&O Aus deployed Sun/Star to replace the sky in singapore? is it because they currently only have 2 ships available? and if this is the reason then why havent they scheduled another Asian series for Nov 07?


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Sutho
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posted 05-27-2006 02:47 AM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I would love to do the itinerary, but as I said earlier I will never pay to go on Pacific Star.

I am writing to P&O's customer relations and explaining why I think Pacific Dawn will be a better choice. I am making it perfectly clear that I will never be seen dead or alive on Pacific Star nor I find it acceptable enough even for my dog.

P&O Cruises
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St. Leonards, NSW 1590

Any Australians or people prepared to come to Australia for this itinerary and are not happy with Pacific Star. Please write to them at the above address and make it clear.

I feel plans that far away if enough people wrote and said no they wont book on Pacific Star but will for Pacific Dawn, then in this instance P&O might change the ship.


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posted 05-27-2006 04:17 AM      Profile for Italian Cruiser   Email Italian Cruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynaro:
Great itinerary! I wonder if this trip could be booked in segments? Six-weeks seems pretty long for a P&O Australia trip.

I agree PACIFIC STAR is not a good choice. PACIFIC PRINCESS would have been the best, followed by the PACIFIC DAWN. I haven't been on the ex. COSTA TROPICALE and certainly do not know her longer cruises success, but she worked for Costa right?


I think that the Pacific Star isn't the right ship for this long cruise.

The Pacific Princess or the Pacific Dawn will be far better.

The cabins of the Pacific Star are on the small side.

During her career with Costa she was mostly employed for 7 days cruises. The only longer cruises were the two transatlantic crossings to and from Brasil.

I booked a transatlantic crossing in 2001, the inaugural season for the Costa Tropicale.

I still believe that the ship was too small for longer cruises.

Ok Pacific Princess is even smaller but she is far better than Pacific Star.


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posted 05-27-2006 10:04 AM      Profile for P&Ocruiser   Email P&Ocruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
exactly why pacific star...please 6 weeks
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posted 05-27-2006 10:24 AM      Profile for phil_a   Email phil_a   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
regardless of the ship... what will probably be the biggest challenge for cruise staff is the fact that they have to alter their schedules in the way of food and entertainment selection. At the moment they can recycle everything every 9 or 10 days... but this cruise is looking at 40 days. The P&O Aus crew will need to see how its done on longer cruises and maybe get the extra guest entertainer or two!
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posted 05-27-2006 12:05 PM      Profile for Italianliners   Email Italianliners   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why everybody is against Pacific Star? She made one Ushsuaia cruise with 22 nights and it was everything OK, the crew told us that the cruise was very good. She's a very good ship, cousy and with two lovely promenades. If i had the money and time i would certainly buy this cruise, because after all i made 3 cruises in Costa Tropicale and i know that she isn't a bad ship!

Italianliners

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posted 05-27-2006 05:29 PM      Profile for Linerdan   Email Linerdan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ive done a 44 night line voyage (Syd-London,1996) and yes after the 2 week period the mood does start to change onboard ship.It was amzing to start to see woman no longer dressing in great clothes but just everyday house clothes and even walking the decks with rollers in there hair!.

The same group of us would meet every 2 days in the laundry room and goss about others onboard and we would even take some bottle of drinks there with us (all while washing and waiting for machines).I can truley say that after those 1st few weeks the whole mood onboard changes.

#Cruises have there "fun upbeat" mood.
#Trans/Atlantic have there "On the way over" mood
#Line voyages have "A commuity/lets stick
together" mood


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Sutho
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posted 05-27-2006 09:45 PM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am against Pacific Star for long voyages for the following reasons. Firstly I have no problem with it doing 7 to 12 night cruises.

1. It is not designed for long voyages and to continually entertain ALL passengers at once. The public rooms and entertainment venues are limited and cannot handle all passengers at once. Passengers get board after a few sea days and need entertainment and not get left out.
2. Far too small and unseaworthy. The sea of Japan and areas of the Pacific are enough to rock even Aurora at 76,000tons. I know what those waters are like and there will be allot of uncomfotable passengers.
3. The ship is too old and run down. According to reviews you get left with foul stenches in cabins/hallways/public rooms. The facilities are inadequate for the amount of passengers it carries. There is not enough alternative food outlets for the amount of passengers.
4. passengers who can afford to part with $20,000+ for a 6 week voyage demand better facilities and luxuries than that ship provides. Lets face it you get what you pay for and people who pay $500 to $1000 for a week are satisfied. people who can afford to pay $20,000+ for a cruise are rich and stay in 5 star accommodation and enjoy eating in luxury restaurants etc. The ship caters for a different social ecenomic group than the type of group they are trying to attract for this voyage.

I have no problem with Pacific Star operating out of Australia and New Zealand giving young party goers and families a weeks holiday. I can only hope that it develops a market and we get newer and bigger ships.

However trying to sell that rubbish to a more elite sophisticated market will only end in disaster for the company and public relations and disappointment for the passengers who book.


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posted 05-27-2006 10:01 PM      Profile for claudio   Email claudio   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i have one question for sutho . have you actually been on pacific star?
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posted 05-28-2006 03:12 AM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No never have and never will. A fool and his money are easily parted.

I have been on a 49 night cruise though. I can say for certain that people who can afford those long voyages demand a certain level of luxury. If I am going to fork out $20,000 for a cruise that I can easily buy a new car with I want to know that I am getting value for money.

I am very keen on that itinerary and would go but not on Pacific Star. I would if it was Pacific Dawn.

We are talking about two different styles of cruising here. Pacific Star is built and designed for shorter/cheaper family friendly/fun cruises of only 7 nights. What P&O is trying to do is sell a 5 star itinerary on a 3 star ship. It is like charging someone the prices of 5 star accommodation and only giving them 3 star accommodation when they arrive.

Like I said I have done my research and consider myself an expert on cruise ships an am up to date on reviews and I will be writing to P&O and telling them as much as I love the itinerary I would not go on Pacific Star but would if they deployed Pacific Dawn.


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posted 05-28-2006 01:03 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...and they will change the ships just for you.

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Sutho
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posted 05-28-2006 07:55 PM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Its worth a try. If they get enough feedback they just might act. Plus its still early days and probably not to much trouble to change ships.
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i suggest you go on qe2/ crystal /siversea etc and let the great unwashed go on pacific star and make up their own minds
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posted 05-29-2006 08:21 AM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The only ships I have been on is Aurora, Oriana and Sapphire Princess.

My whole point is that it is a great itinerary, but people who can afford six week voyages like the 49 night trip I did on Aurora, do not pick ships like Pacific Star.

Like I said I would go on Pacific Dawn (ex Regal Princess)

having reviewd Pacific Star there are so many things you are restricted in doing.
1. There are no self service laundry's - you have to pay to get your washing done.
2. Unlike the ships I have been on above, Pacific Star does not have the amount of multiple entertainment venues that those ships have. Pacific Star can hold over 1500 passengers. That is allot of people and on sea days they are going to need something to do and somewhere to go where they dont have to arrive an hour early for a seat or live in each others pockets.


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posted 05-29-2006 09:28 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree with Sutho. Not a great choice P&O (Carnival) Australia!

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posted 05-30-2006 12:20 AM      Profile for mollydulla     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have been on Pacific Star and although it was good fun for a 7 night cruise at a very cheap price I would'nt go on it for that length of time, and for that price!
We went through some rough weather and I must say the ship doesn't handle itself too good. I would say 60% of the passengers were seasick, the restaurant was only 1/3 full on some nights.
I think passengers would get pretty bored and annoyed with the ship after a few weeks. Its quite small and if you "really" look around the place it looks quite run down botched.

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posted 05-30-2006 06:44 AM      Profile for phil_a   Email phil_a   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i can see what people are saying above... but i reckon the type of people that book this sort of cruise maybe more interested in reading a good book on a deck chair all day rather then being 'entertained' 24/7 (Im guessing it would be an older crowd of people that can afford to take such a cruise- $$ and time)

at the end of the day given there is no other ship/line offering a similar itinerary, P&O will charge what they like and most probably sail full (given the long lead-in/advertising time.) it all comes down to the lack of competition for P&O Aus... we've got great itineraries to choose from but only second grade ships


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posted 05-30-2006 09:02 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
phil_a wrote:
...Im guessing it would be an older crowd of people that can afford to take such a cruise- $$ and time...

...it all comes down to the lack of competition for P&O Aus... we've got great itineraries to choose from but only second grade ships


A couple of valid points there Phil.

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posted 05-31-2006 01:17 AM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I know allot of the passengers will be older and lead lazy days sleeping and reading. However the night life is where people expect entertainment after dinner and not all passengers will get a seat in the limited entertainment venues on a sea day.

I know from experience what these people are like who do long voyages as I have met allot of them on P&O world voyages. P&O may get a full ship but give it two weeks and you will have people wanting to leave the ship demanding a full refund. I dont want it to happen but I expect P&O will be in for a major passenger revolt if they go ahead with these plans.


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I've done a 12 night cruise on Pacific Star, and can't see any reason why it shouldn't do a 6 week cruise.
I'm not sure how it would handle in a really rough sea but we had a semi-rough first day at sea, and it seemed to handle it ok.
The public space inside was adequate, our cruise was fairly full but this wasn't often a problem.

Once Pacific Dawn starts sailing out of Sydney and Pacific Sun sails out of Brisbane, they could send Pacific Sun up to Japan and use Star to fill in for her cruises. But I think I'd rather do a 6 week cruise on Star than Sun any day.


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PACIFIC STAR is 30,000 tons and can carry up to 1,500 passengers. On the long distance Japan cruise that is likely to reduced to 1,100. I sailed out to Australia from Britain in 1971 aboard the 12,000 ton FAIRSKY, a five week run. There were 1,400 of us on the ship. To me PACIFIC STAR sounds possitively spacious, almost 3 times as much space per person! I wonder if PACIFIC STAR will have washing hanging up all over the Lower Prom Deck like FAIRSKY had most days?

Those were the days...................


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We will just see what happens with this one.

By that time P&O will have 3 ships. The Pacific Sun, Pacific Star and Pacific Dawn.

Pacific Star and Pacific Sun will go down well with the young crowds and families looking for a weeks holiday and they are perfect to be operating out of Sydney and Brisbane.

Pacific Dawn will be the more Premium ship offering a premium service like the Pacific Princess did.

In my opinion based on the success of the Pacific Princess as a Premium service, Pacific Dawn will be a better choice for long voyages.

I am all for P&O Australia expanding and offering ships to different markets. However they really need to think about where they deploy their ships and what ships they promote to different markets.


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quote:
Pacific Dawn will be the more Premium ship offering a premium service like the Pacific Princess did.

I dont think this will be the case... i think pac dawn will be moulded along the lines of Sky, Sun, Star with the Sun Princess and Pac Princess (if it returns) playing the role of the 'premium product.'


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