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Passports are held by the cruislines, depending on one's nationality & itinerary, for ease of clearance of the vessel in each port, as stated. Just as the cruisline would not wish to round up all the European Citizens at 7am because the authorities in say The Bahamas wished to examine their passports, those citizens wouldn't want to be woken up either, or the other pax be delayed hours before they could disembark for the day. Having all the passports together speeds things up, and only an individual would need to be called if more info was needed.

Yes, Bulbousbow.. if you had gone to eg. Tunis, you would have had to collect your passport to present to the authorities there, and then return it at the end of the day to the Pursers Office. I keep my passport in Europe, but in the Caribbean/anywhere else, have to hand it over. NCL automatically provide a photocopy to those passengers, however HAL were naughty and did not keep our passports.

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Originally posted by Davegh:
I just read that during embarkation, non US residents have there Passports taken and held until the end of the cruise. Has anyone ever experienced this? And, if so, why would they want to?

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The ship will hold the necessary passports for this purpose. On Caribbean cruises, it tends to be non-US passports, because US citizens don't need to have a passport to travel between the relevant countries. On European cruises, EU passports won't be needed because EU nationals have freedom of movement between EU countries, but non-EU passports may be held. However, cruises that are entirely within "Schengenland" (where there are no internal immigration borders so all travel is domestic for immigration purposes) may not need to hold anyone's passport.

Quite a lot of trust is therefore placed on the cruise lines to make sure that the passports they have seen genuinely belong to the passenger who is presenting it. But I suppose that this is mostly small beer in terms of immigration control - the number of cruise ship passengers is minute compared to the millions who flow through airports.

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Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
Some of the worlds Hotels like to retain your passport and retun it when you check out. I can't remember which countries?

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Passports are held by the cruislines, depending on one's nationality & itinerary, for ease of clearance of the vessel in each port...

Yes, Bulbousbow.. if you had gone to eg. Tunis, you would have had to collect your passport to present to the authorities there,...

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Thanks Pam.

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...but I am not sure US Citizens are permitted to have 2 passports?

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As far as I know US citizens are not allowed dual-citizenship. Is that correct or are there special circumstances?

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Originally posted by bulbousbow:
As far as I know US citizens are not allowed dual-citizenship. Is that correct or are there special circumstances?

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Originally posted by Globaliser:
So US citizens can now, in general, safely acquire a second citizenship and become dual nationals.

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This is true, although most authorities and experts advise against holding dual citizenship. Should you get into some kind of trouble in a third country, it would be easy for each of your home countries to say "Let the other guy help you out." With a single nationality, there is more of an obligation for them to assist you.

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Originally posted by Linerrich:
This is true, although most authorities and experts advise against holding dual citizenship. Should you get into some kind of trouble in a third country, it would be easy for each of your home countries to say "Let the other guy help you out." With a single nationality, there is more of an obligation for them to assist you.

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I can only speak about the UK, but I would have thought that the Foreign Office could not lawfully try to duck its responsibilities to a British citizen on the grounds that they also held another citizenship and we would rather that the other country helped out. The obligation to help stems from the holding of citizenship, which isn't displaced by the fact that you also hold another citizenship.

The only exception to this, of course, is that if you're in the territory of the country of one of your citizenships, officials of your other country of citizenship cannot help you out against the country that you're in.

For most travellers, this is usually a moot point anyway, because most dual citizens will usually take only one passport with them when they travel, which minimises the risk of being ping-ponged between the two Embassies concerned. The most usual situation in which someone would travel with both passports is when travelling between the two countries of citizenship, to allow for formality-free entry to both. But then the danger simply doesn't arise, for the reason already given.

Can't recall every having to hand in our passports on a cruise. Only once, in the Canary Islands, many years ago, did the hotel demand that our passports be handed over. We complied very reluctantly and only after we received receipts for them.

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Originally posted by Cambodge:
"Back when" Nancy and I sailed the MM Lines in SEAsia, we discovered that many "Official" Americans with DoState, AID, etc had Official US passports (Maroon), and also had individual US passports (Green). Some, as I recall, had the entire family on one Official Passport.

Then, as I recall there was some jiggery-pokery about dual passports so one could visit both Arab countries and Israel.

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I believe this is still in effect - it's something to do with how long ago you left one country and entered the other and it's mandatory that the pasport be valid for (again I guess) for a minimum of about 6 months after your departure date.

Many countries still require that the passport be valid for a certain number of months after your departure date.

I've been out of the travel industry for several years now so my knowledge is no longer up to date. Good TA's have this info. at their finger tips and will make sure that you are 'good to go'.