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chrisrotlmacin
First Class Passenger
Member # 4531

posted 04-10-2006 08:09 AM

Hi all find below links to 3 photo albums made by crew members on board Star Princess after the fire.
Album 1 Album 2 Album 3
The photos are Posted in the romanian website for the cruise ships crew members www.barcagii.com .

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 04-10-2006 08:38 AM

Very, very interesting. Thank you! I hope the poster does not get into difficulties.

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P&Ocruiser
First Class Passenger
Member # 5040

posted 04-10-2006 08:44 AM

excellent link, i dont think this ship will ever be the same, princess will rush fixing her, and i'm sure her interior will look saggy in the effected areas, for ever. hope they prove me wrong

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Cambodge
First Class Passenger
Member # 906

posted 04-10-2006 09:15 AM

Those are pretty sobering photos. They should be a singificant reminder to those who would trivialize this incident, and should also reflect the terrific job the crew did in extinguishing the fire. Most significant to me is the obvious way the fire propogated on a modern, SOLAS-certified cruise ship. It would seem to me that, rather than rush to return the ship to service, a serious fire-forensic study should be made as the the "how and why" of this fire, and lessons leaned be immediately applied to all passenger-carrying vessels.

It is not a trivial matter.

Question: When the fire was discovered, did the ship immediately shut down engines to minimize the wind effect? Did they put the fire to leeward?

I ask this, and I was obviously a kid at the time, because in the "Morro Castle" fire, it was found that the ship continued to make significant forward speed which spread the fire extensively. It was in the papers, as I recall, and was the subject of discussion in my school at the time.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 04-10-2006 10:14 AM

I would be surprised to learn that this incident has not been properly investigaged. There was plenty of time to document anything.
Personally, I think some things have to be changed. We nevertheless won't see this too soon - new regulations/procedures not to talk about modifications on the ships will take some time. As said, this is not trivial at all.

BTW: What happened to this discussion on local fire alarms? I remeber this has been topical after the fires on Vistafjord and the Carnival ship.

[ 04-10-2006: Message edited by: Ernst ]

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Johan
First Class Passenger
Member # 4458

posted 04-10-2006 10:37 AM

In a way and in retrospect it is easy to say, this was to happen :

a mass amount of balconies are only a very recent phenomenon (ships of 10 years of age can be said outdated because they don't have that many balconies)
and as with any new (design) feature, it creates a bit confusion, doubt, old solutions are applied for new problems, so the answer is not right (there are many precedents here).

As such I think this fire will have a major impact on the way new balconied ships will be built, and how the existing ones will be altered: strength of the structures, materials, firewalls and alarms, guidelines, etc.

I may be wrong, but is this not the most major fire ever on the outside of a ship (for tme the pictures are clear that the fire crept in from the balconies).

On the other hand, for such a major fire, the ship handled it well : there was no evacuation etc.

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chrisrotlmacin
First Class Passenger
Member # 4531

posted 04-11-2006 06:27 PM

Just to let you know about the popularity of the pictures

www.barcagii.com ,the site that post announced that the web trafic rised from 336 a day to over 2000!!!

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jetwet1
First Class Passenger
Member # 6361

posted 04-11-2006 07:47 PM

I said it in another thread,but i'll say it again here...it is amazing that only one life was lost.

So when ships rotate through drydock do you think we will be seeing sprinklers added to the balconies?

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 04-11-2006 07:50 PM

Maybe, but I guess this is not that easy. (added weight etc.) Also, I am not sure whether this would be efficient or practical. (as posted recently e.g. the former Radisson Diamond had/has sprinklers on the balconies)

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