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mec1
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posted 03-03-2006 12:08 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't moan, really I don't and I not a QM2 style whinger but here are my impressions of Boudicca.

BOUDICCA VOYAGE REPORT

About Me

I was fifty two weeks ago. I have sailed on over 150 cruises before, including six Maiden or Inaugural Trips (including Aurora’s disastrous Maiden Voyage).

Boudicca was my fortieth ship. I have never asked for my money back before.

Embarkation

On arrival at the lavishly decorated terminal, I was told I had to collect my tickets. There was none, nor any records of my joining the ship. Two very nice Dover Harbour Board ladies took care of my luggage and I went to the check-in desk where I presented my booking reference and referred to Nigel Lingard as I had been instructed to by Edwina my travel agent. Blank looks all around but eventually I was told to board without a card and ask for NormaNn Malan the Reception manager. When I got to the gangway I had another argument before being allowed on to the ship. Going straight to reception I was greeted by a queue of 200 people – Boudicca’s key card system had crashed.

I queued then asked for Norman. I was told to take a seat. Forty minutes later I saw someone I assumed to be Norman effusively kissing returning guests and chatting to them. I asked if he was indeed Norman and he said “Yes, give me your passport and take a seat”. After twenty minutes I asked for Norman again and the girl on reception said “Get to the back of the Queue” – I refused to do so. Ten minutes later, Norman came back with a key. I was left to find my own cabin. The key didn’t work. Back to reception – twenty minutes wait then a reception girl arrived to find a skeleton key to let me in. Didn’t work – and the cabin steward told me that I couldn’t have that cabin in any case as it had been given to a band member. Back to reception, where I was incandescent with rage. Luckily, Linda the Future Sales Consultant overheard me and with infinite tact and patience took me to the Secret Garden, bought me a drink (I couldn’t buy my own as I had no Card) and left me there whilst she sorted things out. This was the first time in over three hours that any member of staff had been polite, helpful or practical. Thirty minutes and one more wrong key and I reached the cabin. Not a great start.

The Cabin and Cabin Service

My cabin 4060 was originally listed on the deckplans as a twin.

It is probably the third worst cabin I have had in over 150 rooms on different ships.

The carpets was soiled and marked. There was a defective light-fitting hanging out of the ceiling. There was one 15-inch wardrobe with one hanging rail. There was a small cubby-hole/shelf next to the bed and a shelf under the dressing table mirror (so small that Maria, my cabin stewardess suggested removing the tea and coffee making tray to give me some room).

There was no drawer space whatsoever and anyone in the room for the full cruise would have had to move. The air-conditioning was temperamental too. The television received BBC New 24 and some sporadic films – as there was no film guide this was a pretty useless feature.

I received several souvenirs after my turn down too – dirty glasses and rubber gloves left in situ in the room.

Public Rooms and Décor

The Observatory is rather characterless and on the blank wall at the top of the stairs outside the room I can only assume that a large painting is to be hung on the vast expanse of blank wall.

The carpets throughout the ship are very attractive and elegant as is much of the unusual furniture. The artwork is eclectic, varying from the bland to a horribly grotesque portrait of Nelson looking like a demented Eddie Izzard.

In my humble opinion, a lighter and more nautical look would have suited the Lido Lounge a lot more particularly considering its extended daytime usage.

There were lights not working throughout the public areas and odd flexes protruding from bulkheads everywhere.

The Internet Lounge was not connected and never worked during my time on the ship. There was at no time anywhere – on the door, at reception, in the ship’s paper – any explanation ofor or apology about this.

No permanent signage on Ladies or Gents and, rather cheaply, a lot of the ex-Grand Latino signage in Spanish in all cabins and showers and on staircase C where it still directs you to the old Spanish Public Rooms!

There are not enough Public Rooms when the ship is full. The loss of the nightclub lounge and the upping of passenger numbers leaves the ship feeling crowded, particularly on sea days when passengers are all inside.

Dining

The over complicated system of Two Sittings, Open on port days and assigned seatings on sea days was never policed.

The use of disinfectant hand-foam was sporadic to say the least – sometimes you got sprayed and sometimes you didn’t.

The Maitre d and Section Waiters were conspicuous by their absence so that one of my favourite sights was a gaggle of Filipino and Thai stewards jabbering and shrugging as they tried to work out which food went where.

Things improved only marginally from the marathon two and a half hours that dinner on the first night took.
Breakfast is a nightmare. You have to queue (fight your way round) the stupid circular buffet for juice and cereal.

Waiters take your order for hot food – mine was never once either correct or hot for four days and I was told that Black Pudding was off. The man next to me had a fantastic conversation for ten minutes explaining to his Indonesian steward what “kippers” were. However, at least at breakfast one could get a cup of coffee: your policy of not serving coffee after lunch and dinner at the table after meals is a disgrace.

Menus for lunch and dinner were average: though the frequent choice of starters like “salad” or “smoked salmon” can hardly have had the chefs breaking into a sweat.

Tommy, the Executive Chef, should go back to school. Who puts risotto and macaroni cheese on the same menu? Or serves curry with a heap of peas and carrots? Or peas with shredded lettuce and packet ham? Or makes Scotch Eggs with a “spicy lamb coating” to use up the previous night’s Curry? Or serves afternoon tea without a sandwich or scone in sight? Or stops room-service food and sandwiches at 11.00pm? Or even dares to give a culinary demonstration when the galley is incapable of making toast?

Wine service was equally erratic. I ordered my half-bottle of Chablis for dinner from the sommelier at lunchtime. Thirty minutes into dinner, another grinning sommelier asked what wine I would like and I replied through gritted teeth “the one I ordered at lunch time”. It arrived during dessert.

The staff were awfully friendly – in at least two cases the stewards seemed determined at all costs to the guests regardless of being surrounded by other passengers with no food, or sitting at a table piled high with dirty dishes. And while the staff have been instructed to chirrup “enjoy your….” as they serve you, no-one ever asks if anything was wrong when you leave a plate of food.

The Maitre d was utterly useless. He should be trained or fired.

Open Deck Space

I was looking forward to the ship’s expansive open decks as I love this design of ship. How wrong again. On embarkation, there was a skip of rubbish by the pool and for three days all the new deck furniture and plastic topiary for the deck was not put out until Tuesday afternoon. Add to this the cartons of filth in the buffet area and the netted over swimming pools and this was not a pleasant area.

One deck up, the Promenade Deck was also devoid of furniture for three days even down to the sheltered terrace aft of the Lido Lounge.

On all the other stairways were signs “This Area Temporarily Closed” This was because these areas were unfinished and filthy. In particular the Marquee Bar looks like it needs to be ripped out and completely redone – unless the decorative scheme is intended to be distressed rust.

Upper Decks were still sealed off when I disembarked on Wednesday.

Activities

Activities fell into two camps: the lectures by Sir Bernard Ingham and the other speakers, which were packed, informative and excellent, and the activities organised by the cruise staff, which were poorly run, common and were more suitable for Pontins than an upmarket cruise.

One fondly imagines that there must be quite a lot of applicants for Cruise Staff positions with Olsen, but this clearly cannot be the case: otherwise why on earth would you employ people like Gary The Cruise Director, Ashley on the Cruise staff or the nameless Chinese or Malaysian Girl?

Gary swans around the ship as if to allow the ugly guests a chance to admire his profile. Apart from introducing the shows, the only other time I saw him round the ship was chatting with passengers saying (and I quote) “Well, we really oughtn’t to have bought her out of dry-dock yet” and “the contractors on this job were lousy – no wonder it’s all such a shambles”. What a diplomat.

Ashley, who is as camp as a retired drag queen, ran Countdown (I use the verb ran loosely) and between offering us a choice of vowels and “constants” kept alerting us to the fact that the numbers game would be dreadful as he was “pig-thick”. How very nice for both him and the guests.

The Chinese hostess did the Quiz one night and started by apologising for the strong smell in the room. “Is,” she explained “Me, new carpets, new shoes – have to take off and have big smelly feet!”. What a delightful ambience for your after dinner cognac.

Entertainment

The comedian Barnaby was quite superb.

The singer with the band had the tone and range of Maria Pracatan.

The production shows were interesting. They were like scaled down versions of all the pap you get on big ships, with worse scenery, more effeminate male singers and worse choreography. I have a really good idea for Fred Olsen that could completely transform your entertainment and make you genuinely unique in cruising.

Fellow Passengers

Where would you be without them? These loyal souls who don’ know any better, who prefer to whisper complaints to one another in secluded corners, who grew up with the Dunkirk spirit and apply it so much on board, who don’t ever eat in fine restaurants and therefore rate your food – these people are keeping you going.

How sad that they are literally a dying breed. And what will happen when you are forced to accommodate and pursue guests who have tasted Gordon Ramsay’s food, know about wine, like sushi and expect sophisticated entertainment. Now that is the question.

The Crew

The Captain is magnificent.

The Bureau Staff are insolent, grumpy and unhelpful (perhaps because of their late-night croupier duties?)

The crew should stop telling all the guests that Black Watch is so much better.

Linda, the Future Sales Consultant is easily the most professional and diplomatic person on board – she should receive a bonus.

Overall

A pretty and beautifully decorated and equipped ship completely ruined by dreadful cold food,
Banal entertainment, the rudest reception staff at sea, irritating cutbacks and a state of almost complete unpreparedness for a full-fare inaugural voyage


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philcheese2001
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posted 03-03-2006 12:24 PM      Profile for philcheese2001   Email philcheese2001   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
mec1
Sorry to learn of your woe. Must have been even worse for you considering the expectation of a maiden voyage.
Pardon my ignorance but who is Maria Pracatan?
I assume you will be despatching a rather stiff letter to Olsen's Head Office. You should!
Phil.

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gaz hants
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posted 03-03-2006 01:13 PM      Profile for gaz hants   Email gaz hants   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
oh dear, a catalogue of disasters.
are you pursuing it with FO?
I take it the Maria Pracatan bit was NOT a compliment, if she is the latino singing sensation from Clive James?

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mec1
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posted 03-03-2006 01:42 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maria Pracatan is indeed the tone-deaf, conceited singer from the Clive James show. I think our singer was her mother.

Yes I shall be speaking with Olsen.

Soon.

Mike


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elad
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posted 03-03-2006 02:01 PM      Profile for elad   Email elad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i'm sure it wont be an excuse for you
but those things are happened often in maiden voyages, particulary if the ship is a second hand refubished ship. i had to pass a similar maiden voyage mess as well. i understang your anger
- you should write to Fred Olsen of corse
but i will reccomand you just never embark a maiden voyage - simply!

Elad


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John Sutherland
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posted 03-03-2006 03:51 PM      Profile for John Sutherland   Email John Sutherland   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
mec

We're patiently awaiting your photos. Do you want to share them with use?

Linda is a very helpful and professional member of the Fred Olsen team. I was glad to see that she was able to assist you.

John


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mec1
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posted 03-03-2006 04:24 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
John would love to just need to work out how to create a gallery. Elad - I have done 186 cruises six of which were inaugurals on both new and refurbished ships and I really do know the difference between what can go wrong and what is a sign of an ill-disciplined poorly thought through product.
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Ernst
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posted 03-03-2006 05:15 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
1. Happy Birthday.

2. Sorry for the bad cruise.

The situation might improve as it seems to have been the 'usual' mess occuring on maiden or after refit voyages (altough I do not know why it has to be this way) - but from my own personal expierience some years ago and from what I have read recently it seems as if I should forget my plan to give Fred Olsen another chance somewhen.
Sad to see this ships which have / had potential are somehow lost.


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mec1
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posted 03-03-2006 06:08 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Ernst -

email me at home mike@mec1.co.uk for an update on life in Oak Ridge.

I know how much you love the RVL trio and, like you, I find it sad to see how they have descended. I really loved them when as Royal and Star Odyssey they looked beautiful and still had single-seating dining room - in fact Royal Cruise Line is the company I miss most of all.


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Rex
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I hate Scotch eggs....they are disgusting.
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greybeard
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posted 03-04-2006 04:34 AM      Profile for greybeard     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How did the Boudicca handle the seas, Mec1? It was wild and windy in Dover when you left on Saturday, and your brief cruise took you through the Bay of Biscay. There is no mention of the weather in your interesting report.
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posted 03-04-2006 04:45 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Mec1,

Sorry to hear of your disappointment. If you have done 186 cruises without serious complaint, you were very long overdue!

I do not enjoy writing letters of complain, but I certainly do if I feel that I’m not getting the service and quality as promised in the brochure. After all you do pay for it. I’ve done a fraction of your number of cruises, but I’ve already had a number of occasions to formally complain.

I’ve cruise with Olsen twice (Black Watch and Braemar) and on both occasions onboard maintenance has in part spoiled my cruise. On the BW they spent two weeks installing a metal fire door in the corridor near a cabin. Welding, fumes and banging went on all day, for days. On Braemar they had a water leak in the cabin next to ours. They had not sold it so they could spend the entire week competently gutting it, once again banging and welding too place everyday and penatrated the peice of our cabin. I accept that I was extremely unlucky on both occasions.

I feel sorry for the people on the next few Boudicca cruises because they will have to endure work men attempting to finish the work around them. This harly fits in with the brochue description of 'quiet and relaxation' and 'home from home' etc.

I have not been on Black Watch or Boudica recently, but the decision to lose public rooms has no advantage for the passengers, apart from the few passengers that are booked in suites, but paying through the nose. It seems just 'money grabbing' to me. There ship were reasonably high density before they added addition cabins. I can’t imagine how the main dining room could accommodate more people.

For the BW cruise Olsen compensated me in hard-cash. For Braemar I got a future cruise certificate.

How sad that they are literally a dying breed. And what will happen when you are forced to accommodate and pursue guests who have tasted Gordon Ramsay’s food, know about wine, like sushi and expect sophisticated entertainment. Now that is the question.

Change the product or go bust!

[ 03-04-2006: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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mec1
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posted 03-04-2006 09:23 AM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The ship handled the force eight seas quite superbly - one of her qualities that apparently even Olsens couldn't damage....
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Ernst
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posted 03-04-2006 10:22 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...as long as her nose is not bent...
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posted 03-04-2006 01:03 PM      Profile for Corey H.   Email Corey H.   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What happened on the inagural sailing of Aurora?
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OceanVoyager
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posted 03-04-2006 02:19 PM      Profile for OceanVoyager   Email OceanVoyager   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cruisincorey13:
What happened on the inagural sailing of Aurora?

Hi everyone, Mec, sorry to hear about your cruise, having been on the maiden voyage of Aurora I can vouch that it can be a double edged sword, on the one hand you've got all the excitement of the maiden voyage with all the plus points, but on the other, yes you take a chance with the potential for teething problems.

Mec, it seems that Fred Olsen have a lot to learn in customer service, were the crew mostly new?

The failure of the overheated prop bearing on the maiden voyage of Aurora was unexpected, and was very dissapointing, yet P&O handled the siuation brilliantly.

I for one felt sorry for the Captain as he was very proud to have Aurora under his command, and when he announced we had to turn back you could tell there was emotion in his voice.

P&O kept us informed, and the compensation package was more than generous.

Any cruise company have to be careful when it comes to problems, the phrase "once bitten twice shy" is so true...

Best Rgds,
Andrew


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Lux
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posted 03-11-2006 05:31 PM      Profile for Lux     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yep.

Back from the cruise today. Some things did improve a little after Tenerife. The management types aboard deny that the ship was not ready for a cruise.
I have spent the last 3 hours trying to write a balanced overview allowing for the 'first cruise' teething problems - now I am thinking of slashing my wrists - I may finish it later in the week as tomorrow I expect to spend all day, possibly more, composing my letter to customer services. They are going to get cartloads. I will try and post some photos in dribs and drabs over the next few days.

The weather and sea got much worse between Lanzarote and Agadir. The combined pitch and roll felt like being in a washing machine !. I had to go to bed or I would have been reaching for a receptacle. - The Dacqaris and Jamaican coffee may have contibuted to this though !
It was worse again in Biscay on the return. Making the turn into the English Channel at 1045 on Friday had us looking into the sea !. Tables went flying, dishes crashing, at least 4 lattice doors into the Garden cafe have been removed for repair. The piano in the garden lounge ended up on it side and broken when it toppled and crashed into a window.
People on the floor. A dozen or more passenger were taken to the medical centre, most the cuts and bruises - one with serious injury.

It certainly was an unforgettable cruise.

Lux


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Ernst
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posted 03-11-2006 05:35 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry to hear that. Seems as if it wasn`t what it was supposed to be. I hope you could nevertheless enjoy parts of it. Looking forward to read your comments and see you pictures!
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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quote:
Originally posted by Lux:
The piano in the garden lounge ended up on it side and broken when it toppled and crashed into a window. People on the floor.

Wow, sorry to here that, but I don't suppose we can blame Olsen for the sea conditions. The Black Watch is s aid to be a stable little ship so I assume Boudicca is likewise.

I look forward to your full review.

[ 03-11-2006: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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posted 03-11-2006 06:21 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A belated happy birthday from me, Mike. I hope you get satisfaction with your complaint. With the good repuation FO has built-up, I'm really surprised to hear this. Mind you, there were those initial problems with Thompson Celebration after that refit. I hope it's not a trend.

Sorry to hear you had a bad time too, Lux.

It will be interesting to hear of what happens on future cruises.


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Lux
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posted 03-11-2006 07:49 PM      Profile for Lux     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Once they had worn you down a bit, and one had been out on the islands for refreshment it didn't seem so bad.
We met some lovely people. (And some pompus Ar**s of couse)
One of the most irritating things was no having no tea/coffe station. Tea making facilities were in the cabins - with 4 little pots of milk and a few tea bags & coffee sachets - enough for one cup pp.
They say this justifies the witholding of said drinks in the public areas. - Only available at the regimented "selected times and venues" - That ghastly, tasteless stuff they serve from the jugs. Tiny cups too. Go to the cabin and drink alone ! One couldn't even buy it in the observatory - no tea, and coffee only if one bought alcohol with it !. Not enough profit or service charge I daresay.
It was not listed for sale in the bar service menus - although cold soft drinks were !.
Enormous amounts of complaints went in to the hostesses/host/bar staff about this. They should have got that message.
A lot could be forgiven if one has a steaming cup of decent tea or coffee.

Lux


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 03-11-2006 07:57 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lux, do make a written complaint to Olsen about your disatisfactions. I can tell you that Olsen do take these matters seriously. It will also help those who cruise later in the year.
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posted 03-11-2006 08:21 PM      Profile for greybeard     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Lux:

The weather and sea got much worse between Lanzarote and Agadir. The combined pitch and roll felt like being in a washing machine !. I had to go to bed or I would have been reaching for a receptacle. - The Dacqaris and Jamaican coffee may have contibuted to this though !
It was worse again in Biscay on the return. Making the turn into the English Channel at 1045 on Friday had us looking into the sea !. Tables went flying, dishes crashing, at least 4 lattice doors into the Garden cafe have been removed for repair. The piano in the garden lounge ended up on it side and broken when it toppled and crashed into a window.
People on the floor. A dozen or more passenger were taken to the medical centre, most the cuts and bruises - one with serious injury.

It certainly was an unforgettable cruise.

Lux


Lux, sounds like you had a bumpy ride. But whatever was not ready with the ship, you can hardly blame Olsen for the weather in the Bay of Biscay and the English Channel in late February and early March.

And I speak as one who has spent two days battling winds up to Force 12 while on board Black Watch during an October storm. Windows shattered, plants toppled, the shop was wrecked. But I didn't miss a single meal.

However, I must agree that withdrawal of hot tea facilities is a crazy idea. They've got to put that back in place.

I look forward to reading your longer report.

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...you can hardly blame Olsen for the weather in the Bay of Biscay and the English Channel in late February and early March.

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I'm not.

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Reminds me of my Amazon cruise aboard Black Watch. I guess on quite any other ship I have been on they really took care that passengers get enough water etc. to drink when being on deck in the tropics - not so on Black Watch.....
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