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P&Ocruiser
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posted 02-25-2006 07:04 PM      Profile for P&Ocruiser   Email P&Ocruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
found a review sounds like people want the sky back. http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,18246635%255E17102,00.html
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posted 02-25-2006 09:30 PM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
P&Ocruiser, thanks for pointing this out. The article will eventually disappear into their archives and you'll have to pay to view it, so, I've posted it here.

quote:
All at sea
Getting aboard was just the first trauma on a cruise that offered far from plain sailing, writes Peter Morley
February 25, 2006

PROBABLY it was the Brisbane boarding procedures that put me in a grumpy mood for a 10-night cruise aboard P&O's Pacific Star, the new but old ship pressed into service on the South Pacific run.

How could the Smart State not have a decent terminal? Why do you have to go to the Brisbane Transit Centre in the city's heart to get a bus to a ship leaving from an industrial wharf where people are processed through a tent?

Why can the exercise take more than 3¾hours before you set foot on the ship's gangway?

The Hamilton cruise-liner facility now under construction is due to take its first ship mid-year, but I will believe it when I see it.

The Pinkenba facilities cannot be defended. P&O deserves credit for its perseverance because it began Brisbane sailings six years ago on the understanding there soon would be a terminal.

As a result of this boarding experience, I was not in a particularly good frame of mind when my daughter and I finally got on the Pacific Star for its second cruise out of Brisbane.

Surely things could only improve. After all, P&O was operating a so-called new ship and the prospect of exploring it appealed to a cruise tragic like myself, whose first venture to sea involved a five-week passage from Australia to Italy on the then-crack liner, the Marconi.

That was in 1970, 10 years before the Pacific Star was built.

So this so-called new ship is close to 26 years old and four years older than the accident-prone Pacific Sky it replaced.

But, P&O points out, the Pacific Star had a $39 million refurbishment only five years ago, plus an overhaul in Sicily last October before leaving the Mediterranean for her South Pacific deployment.

Well, there were some oversights when the 36,000-tonne ship – considerably smaller than the Pacific Sky but capable of carrying nearly as many passengers – had her bottom scraped and was tarted up in the P&O livery.

"Australianising" this ship, according to the company, cost a lot of money but apart from carpets, new bedding and lining the main accommodation decks with paintings of cockatoos and rosellas, it is hard to see where the cash went.

Before I go on, I want to make it clear that I have never travelled on any of the so-called luxury ships. Rather, it has nearly always been on the collection of second-hand, cast-me-down ships that P&O insists on bringing Down Under.

We sailed late – again not so much the fault of P&O but the facilities under which the dock workers had to operate. Supplies were double handled with one forklift raising a pallet on to another forklift that had a specially designed hoist that then had to be lowered over the edge of the jetty and down to the receiving hatch. And someone reckons we are the Smart State?

The publicity blurb paints the interior of the Pacific Star as if it were the latest in luxury. It is far from this. It is old, tired, drab, out-of-date and far from the pleasant pictures that the glossy pamphlets portray.

The entrance foyer, for instance, has a rather ornate centrepiece which requires illumination but only half the feature was lit up. And the piano bar decor – while it may have appealed to Liberace – is enough to push anyone from its so-called intimacy out on to the decks.

But there you are confronted by cracked or shattered glass panels.

Taking a seat on some of the deckchairs, it seems the Sicilians with the spray-guns went berserk when they repainted the ship.

And you wonder whether the keel is better than some of the rust spots on the upper decks. Could they possibly withstand another chipping and painting?

While our cabin was quite comfortable, adequate and well equipped, there was a note on boarding to advise that there would be no potable water available for the first two nights because of maintenance requirements and complimentary bottled water was provided.

A few days into the voyage the ship was foul with the most horrid smell through the airconditioning. It was rank, and people walked around with handkerchiefs pressed to their noses.

Sailing back into Brisbane the toilet system failed, leaving some unpleasant surprises for the cabin stewards.

On the way to Noumea we pushed what were described as "slight" seas. I would not be too keen to experience heavy seas because the Pacific Star offered far from a smooth ride. She rocked and rolled and many spent their first day at sea sick.

The food was fine and, unlike the Pacific Sky, the Star offers better facilities for taking breakfast or lunch on deck.

But dinner is served in a restaurant on one of the lower decks. This takes a bit of fathoming. Why does a ship cruising in tropical waters have a dining room that is dark, sombre and without windows?

One of the joys is to take a meal watching as the ship slips away from an island.

But for a $15 per person supplement, passengers can go to an up-market eatery, which specialises in very good steaks and fish.

Beer and cocktail prices at $4.50 and $7.50 were reasonably priced and the dearest – a Beverly Hills Iced Tea – came in at only $10 for a combination of gin, rum, tequila, vodka and Cointreau topped up with champagne and a guaranteed headache.

But restaurant wine prices were a touch on the high side considering their quality and shore retail costs. What seemed expensive to some passengers was the hire cost of snorkel gear for viewing coral at the various island stops we made.

I was not much fussed with the fact that the ship adds a $4.50 daily fee to the bill of everyone over 13 years to cover tips to cabin and dining stewards, justifying the step by saying it is responding to passenger requests about the amount they should hand over.

Some people were of the opinion that the company was simply building into the on-board costs a portion of the staff's wages, although this seems to be the international trend in the cruise industry. To be fair, you could contact the purser and say you did not want to pay but how many people would do that?

Newish to the Australian coastline at least is the fact that P&O now has a system where you sign for each purchase and at the end of the trip this is all charged back to your credit card.

Previously the cashless ships meant you had to take money aboard and put it on a debit card.

The idea of the credit card appeals but it can be a trap and you may end up over budget.

Many on board who had sailed in the past on the Pacific Sky were disappointed with the ship, which may be OK if you are a first-time cruiser, such as the Bundaberg City Council worker who was upset by complaints by seasoned cruise companions.

"Give it a go," he urged, and when I ran into him at the end of the voyage he reckoned it had been the best time of his life. So did my daughter, as there were plenty of activities for teenagers.

The fact that P&O has announced it will be introducing another ship to the Australian trade suggests that there may already be some reservations about the Pacific Star. She did not exactly have a glorious start with the first scheduled cruise cancelled.

Will she be shuffled off to do South-East Asian voyages out of Singapore that the Sky was supposed to do until it was announced she had been sold?

When P&O said late last year that it was going to bring one of the Princess boats here I was most encouraged, especially as I had read that the Regal Princess was only five years old.

Unfortunately, research turned up the fact that the Regal Princess was launched 15 years ago. Again, Australian travellers are getting the cast-offs although in this case the new ship will come with a quantum leap in size, stability, space and facilities.

The Courier Mail


I think this is a bloody good article.

******

Cheers


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bmajor
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posted 02-25-2006 09:51 PM      Profile for bmajor   Email bmajor   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I read that article yesterday and it sounds like the reviewer got off on the wrong foot.
First impressions of your cruise are always the most important as your anticipation is high.Having experienced the set up at the Pinkenbah Industrial Wharf I can understand his feeling.
It really is third world and the grumpy security staff that shunt you around like a herd of cattle does not help.The opening of the new terminal facilities at Hamilton can not come soon enough as the present system is really doing damage to P&O and cruising in general.
In comparison the set up in Sydney is a dream.
Come on Brisbane.....get that new Terminal up and running,the present system is not so SMART.
By the way ,How long has Queensland been called the Smart State?News to me!

[ 02-25-2006: Message edited by: bmajor ]


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posted 02-25-2006 11:53 PM      Profile for P&Ocruiser   Email P&Ocruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by bmajor:

By the way ,How long has Queensland been called the Smart State?News to me!

[ 02-25-2006: Message edited by: bmajor ]


i've heard it before i think its there slogon not sure. i think brisbane passesngers would have prefred a replacement ship to be newer and bigger, not smaller and older, although i think stars interiors r better than skys. by looking at there pictures. i think once regal is here they will place sun in brissy and use star for a sigapore market and new zealand, regal in sydney of course


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mollydulla
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posted 02-26-2006 08:49 PM      Profile for mollydulla     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dear me.... I wish I hadn't read this! I am booked to go on the Pacific Star in less than 3 weeks. Hope it goes a bit better than the Courier Mail author!
I went on the Sky a couple of years ago, then a year later the Sun. Even on the Sun lots of people were whinging how much better the Sky was. I had a great time on both ships.
Living in Australia (unless you have the money to fly overseas and take a bigger, newer, better ship), you have to take what you get, which is old cast offs. I think Carnival/P&O think we are all old country hicks who don't know any better.

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posted 02-26-2006 09:16 PM      Profile for P&Ocruiser   Email P&Ocruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mollydulla:
Dear me.... I wish I hadn't read this! I am booked to go on the Pacific Star in less than 3 weeks. Hope it goes a bit better than the Courier Mail author!
I went on the Sky a couple of years ago, then a year later the Sun. Even on the Sun lots of people were whinging how much better the Sky was. I had a great time on both ships.
Living in Australia (unless you have the money to fly overseas and take a bigger, newer, better ship), you have to take what you get, which is old cast offs. I think Carnival/P&O think we are all old country hicks who don't know any better.


even the regal is a cast off, even though she seems great at the moment, will she be when she finally arrives in almost 2 years. guys save up a little more for example a ncl cruise on pride of aloha is bout $1500 AUD for 7 nights in april/ may, for a twin , thts the same as a pacific star 7 night cruise so y not save the $1200 for the airfare to hawaii and be rewarded with a new boat and a brand new destination. Or fly to sigapore and cruise round there on super star virgo. yes there is the additional airfare, but instead of taking a cruise every year take one every two years, its worth it!!!!


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