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Topic: CRUISE SHIPS THAT NEVER CRUISED BY SOME COMPANIES AS EXPECTED

SHIPS AGENT
First Class Passenger
Member # 3827

posted 01-06-2006 01:04 PM

Dear Friends

This topic is different from the NEVER BUILTS projects, because my intention is to focus on cruise ships that already exist but never cruised with certain company colors as foreseen...however with cruise broschures or previews images already made.

I will name a few such as:-

- MS Gripsholm - ( Regent Sea) by Transocean Tours
-MS Society Adventurer-( Hanseatic) Discoverer Rederei/Society expeditions
- MS Joywave - ( Odysseus ) - Legend Cruises
- MS La Palma - Louis Cruise Lines
- MS Norwegian Leo ( Superstar Leo) - NCL
- MS OCEANIC VOYAGER - ( Holiday Dream) - Orient Lines / NCL
- MS FAIRSKY (2) - (EX-Principe Perfeito) -Sitmar

...

I look forward for your comments...

Best regards

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 01-06-2006 01:15 PM

Some more ships that changed owner at a very early stage:

Bremen (two times!)
Sija Europa
Norwegian Majesty
Costa Marina / Allegra
Empress of the Seas
Pride of America

[ 01-06-2006: Message edited by: Ernst ]

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 01-06-2006 01:33 PM

The year 2000 brochure for the Big Red Boat has a photo of the SS ROTTERDAM with a red hull--she was supposed to be the BIG RED BOAT IV.

Rich

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 01-06-2006 01:41 PM

Add Queen Victoria to the list, now sailing as Arcadia.

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Matts
First Class Passenger
Member # 4120

posted 01-06-2006 02:20 PM

Tregor for Brittany Ferries. To be chartered Bolero from Fred Olsen. Brochures were even prepared, but it never happened.
Did the final festival cruises newbuild ever sail for them?

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cruiseshipluver
First Class Passenger
Member # 5104

posted 01-06-2006 05:26 PM

what about superstar gemini .....which was the Leeward from NCL....and i think she operated for Silja as well....
cruiseshipluver

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 01-06-2006 06:45 PM

How about:

NORWEGIAN SKY (now PRIDE OF ALOHA) originally intended to become COSTA OLYMPIA (sister to COSTA VICTORIA) and not completed by Bremer Vulkan because of the yard's bankruptcy.

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Cheers

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 01-06-2006 07:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by cruiseshipluver:
what about superstar gemini .....which was the Leeward from NCL....and i think she operated for Silja as well....
cruiseshipluver

This is diffent - this vessels just changed owners - but not while she was built or refitted. (she is a bit special as she expierienced not only extensive refits but a severe fire and even sank)

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 01-06-2006 08:32 PM

Cunard Ambassador/Adventurer were originally ordered by Overseas National Airways which Cunard had a 50% share. During construction the ships were transferred to Cunard.

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cruiseshipluver
First Class Passenger
Member # 5104

posted 01-06-2006 08:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
This is diffent - this vessels just changed owners - but not while she was built or refitted. (she is a bit special as she expierienced not only extensive refits but a severe fire and even sank)

fire and even sank???....educate me on that one..vever heard abou that..that happened when i was younger or something...
cruiseshipluver

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reeves35
First Class Passenger
Member # 6021

posted 01-06-2006 09:47 PM

Crown Pricess (now AidaBlu) and Regal Princess were both ordered by Sitmar but by delivery Sitmar had been taken over by P&O Princess.

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NAL
First Class Passenger
Member # 1102

posted 01-06-2006 10:19 PM

I think HAL's Veendam [ex Argentina] was to be
named BRASIL, but never sure if it actually did
happen. I don't know what Volendam [ex Brasil]
was doing at the time or what her name would
have been or changed to........it may have been
during the time Volendam was laid up due to
enormous increases in oil prices.

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Brian_O
First Class Passenger
Member # 3910

posted 01-07-2006 02:42 AM

quote:
Originally posted by NAL:
I think HAL's Veendam [ex Argentina] was to be
named BRASIL, but never sure if it actually did
happen. I don't know what Volendam [ex Brasil]
was doing at the time or what her name would
have been or changed to........it may have been
during the time Volendam was laid up due to
enormous increases in oil prices.

According to Kludas, both Volendam and Veendam were laid up in 1974. In mid-December 1974 Veendam was chartered for a few months to Brazilian concerns. She was renamed Brasil and cruised out of Rio. She was returned to HAL in April 1975 when the charter expired, renamed Veendam and was used in the Caribbean. In 1976 she was transferred to Monarch Cruises (which HAL had just acquired) and renamed Monarch Star. Volendam had been chartered to Monarch Cruises in 1975 and renamed Monarch Sun.

Brian

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 01-07-2006 07:10 AM

Fedor Dostojewski, Maxim Gorki, Danae and Daphne were supposed to form a new premium cruise line. I remember only one ship - Danae or Daphne - has been painted with the new livery.

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Matts
First Class Passenger
Member # 4120

posted 01-07-2006 12:05 PM

Star Princess. Ordered as Sitmar Fairmajesty, taken over towards the end of the building when P&O bought Sitmar.
The ship ernst was mentioning began life as Sally Albatros - a Viking Line Ferry. She became a cruise ship and whilst undergoing a refit burned down. She was rebuilt from engine room up. Various service changes eventually and she is currently Silja Opera. For a full history check out Fakta on Silja Opera
It depends who is asked as to whether they consider these 2 the same ship. Some say that the current Opera merely used unburned parts from Sally Albatros. Others say she used enough that she was a rebuild.

[ 01-07-2006: Message edited by: Matts ]

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 01-07-2006 12:10 PM

Also add the REGAL PRINCESS which was supposed to enter service with AROSA a year after the CROWN PRINCESS was transferred to AROSA.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 01-07-2006 07:28 PM

Thanky Matts for the picture and the link - here the link to simplonpostcards (many pictures) and a link to a report on the accident with many interesting pictures.

It is safe to say that she has an interesting history.

[ 01-07-2006: Message edited by: Ernst ]

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Vaccaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 465

posted 01-08-2006 03:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
Fedor Dostojewski, Maxim Gorki, Danae and Daphne were supposed to form a new premium cruise line. I remember only one ship - Danae or Daphne - has been painted with the new livery.

Yes, it was "Prestige Cruises".
(That reminds me this topic at the begining of CruiseTalk seven years ago).

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 01-08-2006 06:23 AM

quote:
Vaccaro wrote:
...That reminds me this topic (Cruise Trivia Europe) at the begining of CruiseTalk seven years ago.

Very interesting thread. I wonder if Patrick will revive it?

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Cheers

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 01-08-2006 12:09 PM

There is also the REGENT SKY.

Previous thread here: Weither the REGENT SKY

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Karsten
First Class Passenger
Member # 1509

posted 01-09-2006 02:37 AM

WALRUS was scheduled as REMBRANDT for TRAVELSCOPE in 2005... Where is she?!

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Deck 9 001
First Class Passenger
Member # 1716

posted 01-09-2006 03:09 AM

WALRUS is sitting in the Singapore Strait doing nothing, except waiting for a buyer.

Mike

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cruisemole
First Class Passenger
Member # 2459

posted 01-09-2006 04:30 AM

Ocean Voyager not Oceanic Voyager.

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TampaMike
First Class Passenger
Member # 4445

posted 01-09-2006 07:32 AM

Delivered as Spirit of London, she was designed and intended to be Seaward (twin sister to NCLs Southward).

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Jepp
First Class Passenger
Member # 5576

posted 01-09-2006 09:27 AM

SAL:s "Stockholm" of 1941 (=Sabaudia).
/Jepp

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