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Topic: ROTTERDAM VI Forward Structure Altered

eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 07-15-2005 12:16 PM

Looks like HAL has been busy onboard ROTTERDAM VI. Have a look at the spa/gym area above the bridge. It's been extended. Click the link below.

I believe it's part of HAL's "Signature of Excellence" upgrade program, which includes transforming all the gyms/spas into the "Greenhouse Spa" (among other things). I had read this meant enlarging the existing space, but I didn't think they were actually
extending the structure. I thought they were just reconfiguring the space they already had. Guess I was wrong.

It's definitely not very flattering to the forward profile.

Ernie

ROTTERDAM VI Pic

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 07-15-2005 12:18 PM

Yucky, definitely not an improvement!

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dmwnc1
Cruise Director
Member # 3785

posted 07-15-2005 12:25 PM

The Rotterdam V is one of my favorite ships. Did a 10-night CAN/NE on her.

Its a shame that new extended area above the bridge couldn't have had more of a "wrap around" effect (a-la Canberra) on the area, maybe had the sides a type of open air well-deck.

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Fairsky
First Class Passenger
Member # 781

posted 07-15-2005 12:58 PM

Very poorly done. They should have taken more care in keeping an attractive profile.

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Hi Seas
First Class Passenger
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posted 07-15-2005 01:02 PM

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 07-15-2005 01:39 PM

At least it is better than Norwegion Crown's alteration. It is about maximum space utilization and unfortunately her profile has suffered.

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eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 07-15-2005 02:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
It is about maximum space utilization and unfortunately her profile has suffered.

So why wasn't it built that way to begin with? It's not like gyms and spas were not popular when ROTTERDAM VI was introduced?

It just seems when anything is "added" to an original design, the result is something less than appealing. Had this been done when the ship was first built, I'm sure a better design could have resulted.

The "after-market" approach is usually whats cheapest, and not always whats best.

Ernie

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dmwnc1
Cruise Director
Member # 3785

posted 07-15-2005 02:15 PM

If one didn't know any better it almost looks like the bridge of an old ocean liner (i.e. Queen Mary) with open bridge wings. Still dont care for it though. Guess it will grow on us.

Off hand I can't think of too many post-build structural modifications that actually, and significantally, added to the overall appearance to a ship. It always looks like an 'afterthought'.

But then too I havent seen what the 'Enchantment of the Seas' looks like post her stretching.

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jeffrossatsea
First Class Passenger
Member # 2962

posted 07-15-2005 02:49 PM

they have done the same to the zaandam and similar to statendam, ryndam and i believe veendam.....jeff

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 07-15-2005 03:04 PM

Very hideous! HAL/Carnival could have atleast slanted the front instead of the current block!

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 07-15-2005 03:11 PM

She was yesterday in Rotterdam and sadley have no time to go to the dock. But whene i was traveling on the Metro you have an view on the Wilhelminakade. The Rotterdam was docked with here bow first. I saw the add on, and was shocked. It looks as iff she have an large screen hanging above the bridge. I don't like it.

Next time she is in Rotterdam i will take pictures off here and some movieshots.

On 23 july thene i will be aboard the Zaandam fore an 7 day cruise to Alaska. Just bought some memorycards fore my digicam cane take a lot off pictures frome the renewd Zaandam.

Greetings Ben.

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kit
First Class Passenger
Member # 4933

posted 07-15-2005 04:11 PM

hello,here is a picture of her ,just after she was leaving Rotterdam yesterday.

[IMG]www.travelserver.net/travelpage/aspgallery/pictures/Ad_1534_15jpg[IMG]

sorry guys,for me she is still a beauty! KIT

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BigUFan
First Class Passenger
Member # 1382

posted 07-15-2005 04:17 PM

Ugh!

That was rude of them. And for what? A few more treadmills? I guess we have no choice but to allow it to grow on us, although I'll be surprised if that happens.

I agree that it sort of looks like a bridge itself, and that in general these things don't usually work out in favor of keeping up appearances.

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kit
First Class Passenger
Member # 4933

posted 07-15-2005 04:19 PM

another try.someday i will get it right the first time!

[IMG]http://www.travelserver.net/travelpage/aspgallery/pictures/Ad_1534_15.jpg[IMG]

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 07-15-2005 04:21 PM

Here you go Kit

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sunviking82
First Class Passenger
Member # 4930

posted 07-15-2005 04:22 PM

I believe the additions make to the SOS last year ( or was it this spring. . I forget) were done rather nicely. Her profile is still fantastic.

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 07-15-2005 04:25 PM

Perhaps Rob could do some redecorating for us while he is onboard!

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 07-15-2005 04:26 PM

Thanks Kit for the picture. The head-on angle is even more hideous!

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shipcafe
First Class Passenger
Member # 3959

posted 07-15-2005 04:36 PM

I tend to agree that the slope and flow of her forward section now has quite the abrupt hindrance in there.

The aft portion of the ship will also show the Oasis for teens, etc.

For those with a detailed eye, you'll also notice that the illuminated lettering has been changed. The lettering on all post-SOE ships now is very bright.

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kit
First Class Passenger
Member # 4933

posted 07-15-2005 05:13 PM

thanks Onno,for picking up the picture, i will try it myselfe for the last time!

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 07-15-2005 05:15 PM

I’ll guess I have to rework my Rotterdam illustration as well!

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 07-15-2005 05:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Onno:
I’ll guess I have to rework my Rotterdam illustration as well!

Onno it keeps you bussy in this warm weather.
i look forward to youre alteration.

Onno cane you try to move the original bulkhead forward so she is in line with the bridge. I think the overal apearence would be more to the original design.

Greetings Ben.

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elad
First Class Passenger
Member # 5150

posted 07-15-2005 06:32 PM

look very not flattering
its remineds me what that NCL did to Norway with its forward superstracture

Elad

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 07-15-2005 06:49 PM

It looks awful - but could be worse. The really bad thing is that there is now only one unobstructed forward facing open deck.

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 07-16-2005 03:41 AM

Such a beautiful ship ruined! Onno your immaculate rendering will never be the same!

******

Cheers

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