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Topic: Stainless Steal Doors on Cruise Ships

SydneyBoy
First Class Passenger
Member # 2543

posted 07-03-2005 08:31 AM

On a recent walkaround on Pacific Sky, i was surprised to see they had replaced ALL the wooden doors to external decks with Stainless Steel ones like this:

They are sort of modern / futuristic looking, more like something from a "spaceship" but at the same time very cold and sterile and i'm not sure if i like them... The wooden ones were so traditional.

But i am wondering if anyone has seen these on another ship, i have never seen steel doors like this, but do they feature on current new builds?

I wonder why they changed all the doors on the sky, are they cheaper? Easier to maintain? Stronger? Water tight?

Just wondering if anyone can shed any light on the subject and what everybody thinks of them? the "double door" versions look even more peculiar!

see all pictures here:

http://community.webshots.com/user/sydneyboy1

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 07-03-2005 08:34 AM

Maybe they meet with new fire regs?

I once saw an iternal wooden door being replaced with a metal one, on the Black watch, for this very reason. Apparently a safety officer inspection demanded it.

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 07-03-2005 08:35 AM

From the Topic Heading, I thought this might be a discussion about thieves who wear gloves!

Rich

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dmwnc1
Cruise Director
Member # 3785

posted 07-03-2005 08:47 AM

Indeed, I am sure fire regs had something to do with it. Reminds me a bit of the SS United States and the reasoning behind her wood-less construction, save the butchers block and piano.

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mec1
First Class Passenger
Member # 4287

posted 07-03-2005 09:09 AM

The pianos on US were wood - steinway refused to make metal ones.....

Mike

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Jonathan
First Class Passenger
Member # 5201

posted 07-03-2005 09:17 AM

I have seen a mix of wooden door and stainless steel on my trip on the Mariner Ot Seas. Most of the door that the passengers walked through were wood and the stainless steel ones were crew entrances.

Jonathan

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 07-03-2005 09:24 AM

There are modern ships (QM2 and the HAL Vistas if I remember correctly) that still have wooden outer doors. If even wooden doors are a fire hazard then they should also abandon the wooden benches and wooden deck chairs, wooden parasols etc. I think it has more to do whit saving money. Perhaps a large amount of steel doors is cheaper to buy and to maintain then wooden doors. Or perhaps the ship yard could get a good deal on steel doors that they could not have with wooden doors.

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 07-03-2005 11:08 PM

There is still a lot of wood on modern ships so the question of stainless steel doors replacing wooden ones because of a fire hazard doesn't really stick. I think what Onno said about price and maintenance could be the reason, also aren't steel doors stronger? Are they also lighter than timber doors?

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Cheers

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 07-04-2005 01:10 AM

Ugly in every way. Oké they are easy to maintain, lighter. But looking so low budget.

Wooden doors are much more elegant and yes heavy in usse they are very good looking and give every ship some quality even the uglyest.

And fire dangerous with today safety techic's this would not have been an problem.

Greetings Ben.

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 07-04-2005 01:42 AM

Maybe they want a futuristic looking ship?

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Brian_O
First Class Passenger
Member # 3910

posted 07-04-2005 02:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Waynaro:
Maybe they want a futuristic looking ship?

What's futuristic about Astroturf?

Brian

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 07-04-2005 08:18 AM

quote:
Maasdam wrote:
Wooden doors are much more elegant...

I agree Ben. A well maintained wooden door has character.

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Cheers

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 07-04-2005 11:20 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Brian_O:
What's futuristic about Astroturf?
Brian

Sorry,

I meant to say the steel doors, not the astroturf.

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RCI 20
First Class Passenger
Member # 5609

posted 07-04-2005 03:59 PM

If the door leads in to a stairway that also works
as an emergency exit it is req. to be a fire screen door.
The one on the pickture is NOT. Fire doors does not
have windows..

RCI 20

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 07-04-2005 04:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by RCI 20:
If the door leads in to a stairway that also works
as an emergency exit it is req. to be a fire screen door.
The one on the pickture is NOT. Fire doors does not
have windows..
RCI 20

Looking at it I am not so sure whether this is a window or a sheet of metal with some black paint.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 07-04-2005 04:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by RCI 20:
If the door leads in to a stairway that also works
as an emergency exit it is req. to be a fire screen door.

Ah, that's what they changed the door on the Black Watch to steel.

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CGT
First Class Passenger
Member # 3531

posted 07-04-2005 11:27 PM

Wow that's fricken ugly, bring back the wooden doors!

quote:
Originally posted by SydneyBoy:
On a recent walkaround on Pacific Sky, i was surprised to see they had replaced ALL the wooden doors to external decks with Stainless Steel ones like this:
They are sort of modern / futuristic looking, more like something from a "spaceship" but at the same time very cold and sterile and i'm not sure if i like them... The wooden ones were so traditional.
But i am wondering if anyone has seen these on another ship, i have never seen steel doors like this, but do they feature on current new builds?
I wonder why they changed all the doors on the sky, are they cheaper? Easier to maintain? Stronger? Water tight?
Just wondering if anyone can shed any light on the subject and what everybody thinks of them? the "double door" versions look even more peculiar!
see all pictures here:
http://community.webshots.com/user/sydneyboy1

Posts: 2760 | From: New York, New York, USA | Registered: Dec 2002 | IP: Logged

6263866
First Class Passenger
Member # 5115

posted 07-05-2005 01:29 PM

Wooden doors create a much more classy enviroment, they also look very nice when maintanied the right way, steel doors are just plain ugly unless there in an onboard nightclub.

Posts: 580 | From: San Francisco | Registered: Oct 2004 | IP: Logged

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