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Topic: Enchantment of the Seas

PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 05-10-2005 04:10 AM

..has apparently been hit by a storm on her crossing to Rotterdam, with some windows blown out and interior damage. Some photos here, [click on the thumbnail to the right].

Pam

[ 05-10-2005: Message edited by: PamM ]

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Deck 9 001
First Class Passenger
Member # 1716

posted 05-10-2005 04:19 AM

Hi Pam,

Thanks for this link. Looks grisly. Do hope that nobody was injured, or worse.

The sea is certainly unpredictable and nothing to take lightly.

Regards,
Mike

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rem-dk
First Class Passenger
Member # 5121

posted 05-10-2005 04:24 AM

Huh! It doesn´t look good. Let´s hope nobody got hurt.
Thanks for the fotos.

Sincerely René.

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 05-10-2005 04:51 AM

No big deal happens many times on the atlantic it's almost a tradition. That's mother nature telling us that we are small against here power.

Oké soft talking beside she carries no passengers and she is going to the shipyard so they have a nice small job repairing those damages.

Greatings Ben.

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 05-10-2005 09:44 AM

RCI is having bad luck with these VISION-class ships....

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RCI 20
First Class Passenger
Member # 5609

posted 05-10-2005 02:07 PM

I'm not suprised, running full speed in bad weather. Well done capt. xxxxx.

RCI 20

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Dave the Wave
First Class Passenger
Member # 3813

posted 05-10-2005 02:57 PM

Great pics, Pam. I really enjoyed this ship and am booked for November 12th for 5 nights to Grand Cayman and Ocho Rios. I am not crazy about the bungee jumping but look forward to the new pool bar.

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cruiseshipluver
First Class Passenger
Member # 5104

posted 05-10-2005 09:23 PM

WOAHHHHHHHH Pam, that looked to be some bad weather there....the sea looked challenging.....thanx for sharing the pics Pam.....this is Enchantments' second little incident?....boy she is not having anyluck...and luckily she had no passengers and she was on her way to the *repair shop*
cruiseshipluver

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BYEFairwind
First Class Passenger
Member # 4416

posted 05-11-2005 08:44 AM

I don't see the thumbnail. Were they removed? I'm interested to see as I have sailed on EOS.

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harborman
First Class Passenger
Member # 1248

posted 05-11-2005 03:04 PM

Hi PamM,
Could you post the URL for the pictures again, they seem to be gone today.

Thanks much.

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recab
First Class Passenger
Member # 1677

posted 05-11-2005 03:05 PM

There was not much to be seen I guess. EN hit a storm with winds around 70 kts and 40 ft waves. Some cabin windows on deck 2 were crashed resulting in flooding. The ship now sails in calm seas and will arrive Rotterdam 18 hours late.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 05-11-2005 03:23 PM

I don't know whose pics they are, but they have been moved now to Webshots. MSN pages never work too well.

Pam

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Pascal
First Class Passenger
Member # 5510

posted 05-11-2005 10:51 PM

I know these modern cruise ships are safe even in rough seas but... to be honest, I would have been a little bit scared in those conditions. More over, even if I know it's not a matter for the general safety of the ship, I can't help noticing that some cabins, just like with the NCL Dawn, seem to be flooded a little bit too easily to my taste in those weather conditions.

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cruiseshipluver
First Class Passenger
Member # 5104

posted 05-11-2005 11:39 PM

there should have beeen more pics taken frum other points of the ship..........showing the wave action.....frum the stern etc
cruiseshipluver

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harborman
First Class Passenger
Member # 1248

posted 05-12-2005 09:03 AM

Thanks Pam ,
Got them.

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recab
First Class Passenger
Member # 1677

posted 05-12-2005 10:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by cruiseshipluver:
there should have beeen more pics taken frum other points of the ship..........
cruiseshipluver

There were many more pics of course, but only for those involved.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 05-12-2005 10:57 AM

I understand there were 5 stateroom windows broken with limited flooding to decks 2 & 3.

Seems a lot of windows? Any other ship and people would be jumping up and down over windows too low, windows too big, in wrong position, bridge too low, bow too short, fwd balcony greed .. .. and so on

The fact is these incidences are no big deal and not as rare as people seem to think, just we hear news quicker these days. With no pax aboard I wonder why anyone even alerted the general public, better to keep things 'quiet' and no-one would have known any different.

Pam

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eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 05-12-2005 11:03 AM

quote:
Originally posted by PamM:

The fact is these incidences are no big deal and not as rare as people seem to think, just we hear news quicker these days. With no pax aboard I wonder why anyone even alerted the general public, better to keep things 'quiet' and no-one would have known any different.
Pam

True Pam. Thankfully RCI has very few ships with forward facing balconies. The bows also tend to be a bit longer rather than the stubs that some new ships seem to have.

I think NORWEGIAN DAWN is especially venerable as the bow is extremely short, and the forward facing balconies are really like giant "wells". The balconies are cut out of a large slant in the superstructure coming down from the bridge. It makes them especially large and deep, and a giant wave would just fill them with water like an extra swimming pool!

Ernie

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 05-12-2005 11:20 AM

quote:
Originally posted by eroller:
I think NORWEGIAN DAWN is especially venerable as the bow is extremely short, and the forward facing balconies are really like giant "wells".

I would have thought the R ships were just, if not more, vunerable to this? If everything were made 100% sea proof [well it could'nt anyway] we'd be sailing in floating tanks

Pam

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 05-12-2005 11:22 AM

Lucky that it was a ‘vision’ class ship. RCI’s ‘Radiance’ class probably have more glass then any ship afloat – imagine that in a storm.

I can’t help thinking that it is only a matter of time before windows are smashed on a modern cruise ship and passengers behind them are very seriously injured or worse! Only then will there be a serious re-think by the industry.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 05-12-2005 11:23 AM

It is interesting to see that the discussions on how a ship interacts with waves is limited to the bow only.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 05-12-2005 11:51 AM

Well it does hit them first [hopefully] Ernst

and supposed to part the seas for the rest of the hull. Imagine the effect if it were a harbour wall taking those waves, far more spray everywhere.

Pam

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 05-12-2005 11:58 AM

quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Well it does hit them first [hopefully] Ernst and supposed to part the seas for the rest of the hull. Imagine the effect if it were a harbour wall taking those waves, far more spray everywhere.
Pam

...hopefully. How the ship pitches and rolls is of course not only relying on the bow shape.

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cruiseshipluver
First Class Passenger
Member # 5104

posted 05-12-2005 01:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
...hopefully. How the ship pitches and rolls is of course not only relying on the bow shape.

it depends on a number of factors, how the ship is packed and loaded.......if stablizers are in use or not....... how the hull is shappped...the bow offcourse.......hydrodynamics......weight of the ship....the intensity of the ocean offcourse...even wind squalls at sea......many factors man....and as Ernst said should not be constricted to the bow of the vessel alone.
cruiseshipluver

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 05-12-2005 05:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by cruiseshipluver:
it depends on a number of factors, how the ship is packed and loaded.......if stablizers are in use or not....... how the hull is shappped...the bow offcourse.......hydrodynamics......weight of the ship....the intensity of the ocean offcourse...even wind squalls at sea......many factors man....and as Ernst said should not be constricted to the bow of the vessel alone.
cruiseshipluver

...and - always talking about hull shape and the thing we "see" - the stern....

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