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Italian Cruiser
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posted 08-17-2004 11:51 AM      Profile for Italian Cruiser   Email Italian Cruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
According to www.tug-barge.com/p508.htm P&O Australia Pacific Sky ( ex Sky Princess/ Fairsky ) is for sale for an asking price of $ 45 million.

The name of the ship isn't indicated but due to her dimensions and technical specifications she is with no doubt Pacific Sky.

I'm not really surprised that she is for sale... as a steam ship she is quite expansive to operate.

Do you believe that Carnival Corporation & Plc could replace her with Holiday or Celebration ?

Who could acquire her ? She is too young to be scrapped !!!

Frankly I'd like to see her in the Costa fleet... just change the funnel and refresh her interiors, particularly the cabins.

I know... it's just a dream... Carnival will sell her !


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Fairsky
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posted 08-17-2004 12:16 PM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow... this was sooner than I thought. I have a deep affection for this ship (as you might know from my name). I sailed on her twice as Fairsky in the 80's.

I don't know who would want her... she's a great ship, but that steam plant is unusual today and may be difficult for smaller lines to manage.

I think Carnival has plans to expand in the Aussie market, so I do think you will see at least one more Carnival ship transfered in the near future... probably Celebration.


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Waynaro
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posted 08-17-2004 03:56 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Woah! I an surprised the PACIFIC SKY is listed for sale already!
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 08-17-2004 06:37 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder what the cost would be to re-engine her as a motor ship? The logic that Sitmar used at that time to have all their ships turbine powered now seems so poor. I read that it was so their engineers could easily service and work TSS Fairwind and Fairsea and also the new flagship. As Fairsky, she was one of the last good looking cruise ships built and she combined exterior design elements of an ocean liner with a modern cruise ship. Even her squared-off stern has style.
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feargus
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posted 08-17-2004 08:24 PM      Profile for feargus   Email feargus   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My thinking is that she is good to go past solas 2010 but i am not certain, does anyone know if this is the case or not?
As for replacing her steam plant for diesels i would think that is would not be cost effective in the long run but this does depend on how long she can run.
further is their anyone here who has sailed her recently and can give me their opinion on her interior decor and over all condition.

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posted 08-18-2004 04:20 AM      Profile for cruisemole   Email cruisemole   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Built 1984 so definitely 2010 compliant.
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phil_a
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posted 08-18-2004 06:52 AM      Profile for phil_a   Email phil_a   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
one must not forget its recent (last year?) dry docking to fix some damage to the hull when it was taking on water near auckland.

With respect to its interiors- its last major refit was in 2000, but even then only some things were changed from its princess days. (the showroom is one thing that stands out as having a complete upgrade)


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posted 08-19-2004 06:46 PM      Profile for gpcruisedude   Email gpcruisedude   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Pacific Sky is a great ship...I rememeber seeing her so many times as the Fairsky in Vancouver on the Alaska run...she stood out and was definentley a good ship for that run...she often did 10 day cruises out of San Fransisco to Alaska...an itinerary very few lines do now!
Im not sure who would acqire her...Louis perhaps? Or do they need any more ships? Maybe even she could be chartered long term?

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claudio
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posted 08-23-2004 09:09 AM      Profile for claudio   Email claudio   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i have been o her twice read my reviews, it always has been in excellent condition, i noticed the print in my cabin baja234 was an ex sitmar print the cabins need refurbishing as i think they are original and the bathrooms need a complete makeover no mention of any sale in australia i am suprised p&o would want to sell her as its probably a better ship than jubilee. i like ships with promenade decks and it seems the trend is to get everybody up high. the cruise line must hate promenade decks as they cant make any money out there
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pungpui
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posted 08-24-2004 12:23 AM      Profile for pungpui     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As bad as this sounds, it would be great to see a new ship in Sydney. Pacific Sky is a great ship, no doubt, but i'm kinda getting a bit sick of seeing the same ship again and again and again. I also read in numerous reviews that conditions onboard arent all up to scratch as expected from a cruise ship (mold on shower curtains, low ceilings, etc.). If Pacific Sky goes, then maybe that excuse for a ship 'pacific sun' will go to Brisbane, and hopefully we'll see some larger, newer tonnage around here!
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feargus
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posted 08-24-2004 08:36 AM      Profile for feargus   Email feargus   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
from Claudio,
" the cabins need refurbishing as i think they are original and the bathrooms need a complete makeover "

With the cabins and bathroom in their present condition would they pass for three star accom if you threw in some new bed sheets and shower curtains?
Further, what is the condition of the outside deck spaces? decking, furniture, fittings etc.
If she can pass as a three star ship she wouldl be perfect for one or two week med cruises at a bit less than normal cruising speed to cut down on the fuel consumption with the present high prices.


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posted 08-31-2004 03:32 AM      Profile for SydneyBoy   Email SydneyBoy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well this is a major surprise! P&O Australia are onto a good thing with Pacific Sky, she is immensely popular and has built a loyal following. She has a unique Australian Character and there is a personality to her that has built up over the last 4 years here, I see Pacific Sky to have the potential of Fairstar who served Sydney for over 25 years straight with great success. Sky is still young by Australian standards and will DEFINATELY pass SOLAS 2010.

I have sailed her 4 times now and was onboard 2 months ago whilst she was in port in Sydney and to answer your questions feargus she is in remarkably good condition. P&O have slowly been doing the interiors bit by bit over the last year, and i believe have an ongoing interior upgrading program up until her next dry dock. For instance they have just completed refurbishments of all the Lido suites (they did a few during each cruise). They are also investigating the possibility of redoing an amount of cabins in each grade into double beds, which would result in total refurbishments of the lower cabins. The dining rooms recieved new carpets, chairs and fittings late last year, and all the public rooms are being progressively relayed. The library got upgraded recently with the addition of the internet centre and the ships entire telephony system was reqired with new phones in all cabins.

The only areas i think that really need some attention are the promenade lounge which is rather dated and seems a very unused wasted area, the beauty salon which is quite small and dated and the cinema, where the seats and carpet are very worn and its beginning to smell musty, this is a fabulous venue however that has great potential for use as an alternative showlounge as its stage is actually quite big!

On the outside the ship is in a good condition also, the real teak decking is spotless and the lifeboats and davits seem well maintained. The rear decks are still lovely with there classic layers, and the massive rear promenade deck which was expanded in 2000 is a fantastic area during a hot day at sea, a real alfresco atmosphere, one deck up and the extended night club deck becomes a young persons sunbaking deck with music during the day, another deck up and the main pool area with bar and ice cream shop is looking spick and span, with the pools and tiled areas being well maintained also, the only thing here is the glass needed a good clean! Further up and forward the sun deck has been covered in astro turf which is frequently replaced and is soft underfoot, here is the silent sunbakers delight with a great area in direct sunshine all day atop the ship with total peace and a bar for a cool drink!

The Gym and indoor spa are also well maintained but the gym is relatively small, and massage and treatment rooms limited. The Sky deck was probably the most neglected area onboard on my last visit in june, it needed a good paint, and it could prbably do with some wind breaks to make it more pleasant while at sea!

But all in all, with a good scrub down in the bathrooms (new shower curtains) and some fresh soft furnishings Pac Sky could easily pass 3.5 stars, and with some minor renovation work on some of the public rooms and the lower grades of cabins, she would even top 4 stars! At the moment even her lower cabins still far exceed most 3 star ships, they are very large, high ceilings, great lighting, well ventilated, and very comfortable with heaps of storage space, and giant showers! Poor noise dampening is their only structural short coming.

Oh another thing, all her outdoor decks recently recieved all new furniture and fittings, including deckchairs, tables and chairs, lights, bins etc.

There is definately something beautiful about her, she has an elegance she clearly inherited from Sitmar, in her appearance and presence. Truly a good looking liner, I honestly hope this isnt the beginning of the end of her career down under! She runs rings around "Pacific Sun" her fake ugly sister! haha

Surely she has at least another 20 years good service in her if she is well kept, wouldnt this warrant replacing her engines? As was mentioned earlier in the post she had some problems with her hull last year but they did extensive repairs and actually cut away large sections and replaced them. I hear that in the next dry dock they intend to do further work to the hull so no doubt they will bring this back to new standards, and keep it there now that they know about that problem.

Well ive gone on for so long im sorry, but i have great affection for this ship! If anyone has any other specific questions about her or her condition just ask!

SydneyBoy


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Fairsky
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posted 08-31-2004 03:19 PM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks, sydneyboy, for that detailed update on Pacific Sky. As you can tell from my logon name I also have a real affection for this ship. Although her steam engines are outdated and expensive, I hope the ship has many more years of service ahead. If Carnival is not interested in replacing her engines I hope another operator will.

As for Pacific Sun... she is no match for Sky. But I think the former Carnival ship better fits the original market attracted to Fairstar for many years... the fun seeking young and single crowd. Interesting that for a time Fairstar was also marketed as the "fun ship".

BTW, for all those interested in these ships and the history of passenger shipping in Australia, I highly recommend the new book: The Sitmar Liners Past and Present by Peter Plowman.


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bmajor
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posted 09-01-2004 03:15 AM      Profile for bmajor   Email bmajor   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sydney Boy......
I have taken on board all you have said.....
I have cruised on Pacicic Sky 3 times and enjoyed each cruise..........
but we must move on.....
the old tub is a rust bucket
and is unsafe as a cruise ship
The Moms and Dads and their kids,
the party going teens of Australiia
need a safe ship..........
Lets hope
P&O Australia
read (Carnival PC)
deliver...............

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feargus
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posted 09-01-2004 08:52 AM      Profile for feargus   Email feargus   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
a bit rusty, maybe. unsafe NO! passenger ships with decent companies behind them, decent flags hanging of the back end and well trained crews are not unsafe.
she did have some cracked and corroded plates below the water line and took 17 tonnes of water, these have now been repaired and the rest of the hull checked through U.T. gauging with no problems found.
in my work as a ship repair manager i have seen some real rusty buckets that are falling apart and are unsafe the pacific sky is not one of them.

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rd77
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posted 09-02-2004 05:11 AM      Profile for rd77   Email rd77   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by bmajor:
Sydney Boy......
I have taken on board all you have said.....
I have cruised on Pacicic Sky 3 times and enjoyed each cruise..........
but we must move on.....
the old tub is a rust bucket
and is unsafe as a cruise ship
The Moms and Dads and their kids,
the party going teens of Australiia
need a safe ship..........
Lets hope
P&O Australia
read (Carnival PC)
deliver...............

I have a little surprise for you: the upcoming PACIFIC SUN (ex-JUBILEE) is only two years younger than the PACIFIC SKY, but I suppose she is not an "old tub" or a "rust bucket" then? Would you consider the ROYAL PRINCESS (also built 1984) a rust bucket too? Come off it! A 20-year old cruise ship is NOT a rust bucket, certainly if it us run by a proper company....


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Mr_Cunard
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posted 09-02-2004 09:05 AM      Profile for Mr_Cunard     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
hi all,
I my self has been on P&O's Pacific Sky! I found the crew to be 10/10 thaey were amazing! It's not the ship that brings ppl onboard not like Qe2 but the staff! they are much fun and great to be with and they MAKE your cruise! But however Pacific Sky being sold woudl not surprise me she has bad cabins and the decor is not as nice as can be! Their have been reports od mold in the showers etc! I think with all the revenue that Pacific Sky is bringing in it can afford to have a new ship cruise full time not a reject from a sister company! Or even a ship that is not old and needs work done! I woudl much rather see regal or something along thoes lines cruise Australian waters!

Cheers


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Fairsky
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posted 09-02-2004 10:57 AM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The future of Pacific Sky may depend upon Star Cruises decision to place SuperStar Virgo in Australia more often. If Virgo, a very new and modern ship, is in the market then Carnival may need newer tonnage to compete.

I could also see Pacific Sky sold and the market filled with former Carnival ships- Jubilee (Pacific Sun), Holiday, Celebration, or even a Fantasy-class ship.


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