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Mr_Cunard
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posted 06-12-2004 11:23 AM      Profile for Mr_Cunard     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

What is this?

Hi all i was wondering has cunard QE2 gone to being tight! i hope i never get a cabin like this one with what i think is an air-con unit in it having this massive thing running right over your head!! i thought it woudl be ducted!

More pictures here

Cheers

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eroller
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posted 06-12-2004 11:54 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That is pretty bad. Reminds one of a Motel 6, not a luxury ocean liner.

No doubt a cheap way for Cunard to fix the a/c problem in certain cabins without having to dish out the $$$ for an entirely new system.

Anyone who has sailed QE2 knows there is a serious problem with the a/c in certain areas of the ship. I thought this major refit was going to correct that problem. I hope the solution is not just a series of "portable" a/c units which are very unattractive and noisy at best.

Ernie


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PamM
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posted 06-12-2004 01:47 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That does look awful... but those photos were of a RTW on QE2 commencing 5 Jan 2003, so perhaps something has been done during her refit. [Looks like it could be 3? Apr 2003 from the calendar on the wall]
Pam

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eroller
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posted 06-12-2004 01:51 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good point Pam. Let's hope it was only a temporary fix.

I have to admit though, I would have welcomed that external unit in my little M5 oven down on Five Deck. It was so damn hot in there, and this on a December crossing!

Ernie

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posted 06-12-2004 03:14 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...Ernie beat me to it; if it worked I'd certainly have one - mind you in my experience of hotels those sort do rattle a bit!
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Brian_O
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posted 06-12-2004 05:29 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That cabin looks a lot like cabin 5124 which I had, single occupancy, in 1981. If it is 5124 that a/c unit is definitely needed because there is something hot right under 5124 that overpowers the central a/c in that cabin. When I had the cabin the bathroom floor seemed to be hot enough to fry eggs on. It needed an individual a/c unit then. Strangely enough, on talking to people occupying the nearby cabins I discovered that 5124 was the only cabin in that area that had the problem.

About 3 years later while going down the D stairway I overheard a conversation between 2 crew members who were discussing cabin 5124 and its unbearable heat. I just smirked.

Brian


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posted 06-12-2004 06:06 PM      Profile for Cunardcoll   Author's Homepage   Email Cunardcoll   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I will have M-class cabin 4088 , does anyone have a photo of that class (single)

Jochen


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-12-2004 06:41 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cunardcoll:
I will have M-class cabin 4088 , does anyone have a photo of that class (single)

Jochen


I don't think it is possible to take a photo of this grade!

They don't make a lens wide enough, because when you stand with your back to the door, your nose almost touches the opposite wall!


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-12-2004 07:59 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When QE1 was air conditioned in the mid 1960s, I read that the system would blow huge amounts of cold air is some parts of the ship while other parts were warm. I would have thought that 40 years later Cunard could get it right. Are QE2's HVAC systems basically the originals from 1969 or have they been replaced? With at least 100+ million dollars spent on refits over the years, how was the A/C syctem overlooked or not upgraded properly. I would be so angry if I was in a steamy cabin for a 7-day cruise.
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Excuse my typos. from previous post
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eroller
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posted 06-12-2004 08:54 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cunardcoll:
I will have M-class cabin 4088 , does anyone have a photo of that class (single)

Jochen



Nope, but she is a tiny one! Perfect for one person though. Enjoy.

Ernie


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eroller
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posted 06-12-2004 08:58 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Brian_O:
That cabin looks a lot like cabin 5124 which I had, single occupancy, in 1981. If it is 5124 that a/c unit is definitely needed because there is something hot right under 5124 that overpowers the central a/c in that cabin. When I had the cabin the bathroom floor seemed to be hot enough to fry eggs on. It needed an individual a/c unit then. Strangely enough, on talking to people occupying the nearby cabins I discovered that 5124 was the only cabin in that area that had the problem.

About 3 years later while going down the D stairway I overheard a conversation between 2 crew members who were discussing cabin 5124 and its unbearable heat. I just smirked.

Brian



Interesting. I wonder what is underneath cabin 5124 to make it so hot? I don't think the picture is of the same cabin since it appears to be a double, with two lower beds. You said 5124 was a single at the time (or you booked it as a single), so maybe Cunard changed it? Did it have two lowers or an upper/lower bed arrangement?

I'm also curious how that aux a/c unit works. I aways thought they had to somehow exhaust to an outside area? I don't know how that would be possible in a small inside cabin.

Ernie


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Mr_Cunard
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posted 06-12-2004 10:36 PM      Profile for Mr_Cunard     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anyway ppl no matter what the point weather it be that it is being heated from underneath or what ever it is still unacceptable for cunard to leave it like this. For people paying major money for a Luxury 5 star Cruise line I would think it disgusting they just have a cheap alternative and just stick an on the was reverse cycle air-con on the wall. I hope that Cunard has in her refit installed ducted air-con throughout the ship. Dose anyone have any more comments or information regarding this matter! And another thing regarding these cabins I think it would be welcomes change for the cabins décor be updated! Look at the side table it has no draw handles and the side lamps look oddly familiar to that of the 1960’s! it would be nice to see a major change in QE2’s cabins especially with the amount of money she is raking in! Maybe a nice wall cabinet for the in room T.V so that wires are not exposed making her look appealing to customers and the room becoming neater!

Cheers


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posted 06-12-2004 11:54 PM      Profile for Guest        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We had a unit like that in 5149 back in 1998.. It was quiet and cooled the room very nicely. It does look a bit - grotty. They only exist in some 4 and 5 deck cabins that suffered from poor ventilation.

Chris.


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quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

I don't think it is possible to take a photo of this grade!

They don't make a lens wide enough, because when you stand with your back to the door, your nose almost touches the opposite wall!



You are a cruel man Malcolm


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quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Cunard:
And another thing regarding these cabins I think it would be welcomes change for the cabins décor be updated! Look at the side table it has no draw handles and the side lamps look oddly familiar to that of the 1960’s! it would be nice to see a major change in QE2’s cabins especially with the amount of money she is raking in! Maybe a nice wall cabinet for the in room T.V so that wires are not exposed making her look appealing to customers and the room becoming neater!

Cheers


Mate: they are the lights from the 60's - they work so why change them? Also, the drawers have "cut in" handels under them, and are the same in all cabins from One Deck thru Five Deck. The TV issue I agree with you about...

One Deck Cabin - note drawers & lights... nice

Chris

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Before I do this topic to death...

One more thing you need to realise is that QE2's accommodation is not 5 star from Q - M - the grades differ.

Dougals Ward's Berlitz publications suggest...

QG / PG = 5+
C = 4
M = 3+

Thus perhaps a 3+ star vessel can have a FEW wall mounted units and get away with it, for the comfort of the guests in the cabin?

Anyways, the time spent in the cabin is minimal, if you go on QE2 and stay in your cabin you are missing the point...


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posted 06-13-2004 12:38 AM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eroller:

You said 5124 was a single at the time (or you booked it as a single)

I think you misread my post. I said it looked like 5124, so you can infer that 5124 has two lower beds as shown in the photo. Cunard has not renumbered the cabins. Single occupancy means, I had it to myself....it was an "ugrade" because I had booked an inside single and they had given me a guarantee at the time of booking. BTW, this is the cabin I was talking about in an earlier topic about "shares"....Cunard upgraded a woman, who originally had been assigned to 5124 on a share basis, to a single cabin to satisfy their guarantee to me. (and then they forgot to inform her of the upgrade, so her bags and bon voyage flowers from a well wisher arrived at my door. )

If the cabin in the photo is 5124 then the photo was taken from just inside the door which is to the photographer's right. The bathroom is over the photographer's left shoulder.

I never got an explanation of what was below 5124 to cause the cabin to be so warm and the bathroom floor to be so hot. I don''t know what is on 6 Deck a few feet aft of the D stairway on the port side. Perhaps Barryboat can enlighten us since he has deck plans showing areas not normally shown on deck plans shown in the brochures.

Mr. Cunard: The do have ducted a/c throughout but a cabin like 5124 has a need for extra. I would have appreciated the extral unit had it been in place in 1981.

Lasuvidaboy: The original a/c system on QE2 was replaced in stages over the course of about a year following the Falklands campaign.

Brian

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posted 06-13-2004 01:01 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cunardcoll:
I will have M-class cabin 4088 , does anyone have a photo of that class (single)


Jochen,

Here are two photos shown Single Occupancy Cabins were taken in '89.



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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Cunard:

Anyways, the time spent in the cabin is minimal, if you go on QE2 and stay in your cabin you are missing the point...

My philosophy exactly.

But, I'd avoid booking a cabin on 5 Deck unless that was all that was available.

Cunardcoll: Don't worry about 4088. It will do just fine, as would almost any inside single on 4 Deck. Enjoy your voyage.

Brian

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posted 06-13-2004 01:27 AM      Profile for Mr_Cunard     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Although QE2 décor is a bit old compared to newer cruise ships! It still has an amazing Décor throughout the entire public rooms but the lower grades have poor ones! I would think that QE2, to improve their star rating would want to do something about it. Why not give her a bit of a cabin upgrade I don’t think it would go astray! As for the A/C I do not know if they have climate control in the rooms or not but if they do why need extra then! You should be able to increase the fan capacity and coolness of the room! The photos from OCEAN Liners are nice thank you! But are they old ones? Do the cabins still look like that! What about the bathrooms do they look the same! Well when I go on QE2 I think some lamps would be a nice touch to the cabins providing some mood lighting!

Cheers


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Can anyone tell what cabin this is?[IMG]what cabin is this[/IMG]
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posted 06-13-2004 02:01 AM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Cunard:
As for the A/C I do not know if they have climate control in the rooms or not but if they do why need extra then!

Yes they do have climate control in all cabins. Still there are a few cabins like 5124 which are too warm even with the temperature set to minimum. Hence the need for the dedicated units in a few cabins.

The upper photos in Ocean Liners' post is what was called a Grade VC cabin in 1989 (Inside single, First Class). Cabin 1011 is one such cabin. Although these cabins have a folding upper berth they were almost always sold as singles, sometimes as a Grade XE when demand for inside singles in Transatlantic Class was high.

The lower photo is what was a standard Grade XE cabin in 1989, an inside single Transatlantic Class. Most of these cabins are located on 4 Deck.

I might be wrong, but I would not be surprised if these cabins look the same today as they did in 1989. And, imho, there is nothing wrong with the look as long as they are maintained properly. Cabin 5124 is the only cabin I ever had any sort of an issue with and it is normally sold as a double. Methinks you are just too fussy.

Brian

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Yeah I suppose I am a bit ahahha. But when you’re paying quite a lot of money you expect it to be of good standard and nice surroundings! And I think that the A/C could also have some health problems as having cold air on you could make you sick!! Not a nice touch for your trip!

Cheers


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Mr_Cunard: Don't forget some of the pictures you have seen are aged : The one you posted is current but the pictures which include the blue bathrooms etc. are very "out of date".

I doubt many people got sick due to the aircon. units.

5149 had a warm floor - so I assume that the aircon unit there was to reduce the overall heat in the cabin because of its close proximity to a heat giving source.


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