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Topic: Identify the Ships?

Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-30-2004 07:22 PM

This low quality image is from a brocure. These are ships in an Norwegian Fjord. Is it possible to tell what ships they are?

I personally have no idea?

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Landlocked Cruiser
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posted 05-30-2004 07:27 PM

Fred. Olsen ships?

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Landlocked Cruiser
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posted 05-30-2004 07:29 PM

More specifically, Black Watch at left and Braemar at right.

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mec1
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posted 05-30-2004 07:51 PM

Maksim Gorkiy and Kareliya????

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BermudaBoy
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posted 05-30-2004 08:25 PM

Maxim Gorki and Black Prince

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CGT
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posted 05-30-2004 08:41 PM

I agree with Landlocked Cruiser.

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Waynaro
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posted 05-30-2004 08:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mec1:
Maksim Gorkiy and Kareliya????

I have to agree with you Mike.

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sunniebgi
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posted 05-30-2004 10:21 PM

originally I would have said Fred.Olsen ships, but looking up internet pics of 2 others mentioned I say..

Maksim Gorkiy and Kareliya

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Landlocked Cruiser
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posted 05-31-2004 12:20 AM

Thanks for the support, CGT.

But I am switching sides, sorry. I think the funnel would have to be farther aft for it to be Black Watch, and the red band should not extend around the front of the funnel. I had originally eliminated Maxim Gorki because I couldn't see the distinctive cap over the funnel, but it could be there.

Also the ship on the right doesn't seem to have Braemar's stern.

John

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rd77
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posted 05-31-2004 04:39 AM

The left one is definitely MAXIM GORKIY and the right one is definitely one of the GRUZIYA-class, built in Finland in 1975/76.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-31-2004 04:48 AM

At first I though it was Black Watch, but some how it does not look quite right.

The picture is probably pre-Olsen's Braemar? It is very unlikely two Olsen ships would be in the same Fjord, anyway!

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Maasdam
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posted 05-31-2004 05:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mec1:
Maksim Gorkiy and Kareliya????

I agree with you mec1, The ship above in the picture is Maxim Gorky and the ship below is Kareliya ore one off her sisters. Look closer to there funnel markings, you see that they where the old communist funnel markings. A red ribbon with a golden communist symbol.

They are not Fred Olsen vessels look at there funnel colors.

Here a picture of Maxim Gorcky take a close look at the funnel colors they are the same.

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Waynaro
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posted 05-31-2004 02:22 PM

And a picture of the GRUZIYA-class ships...

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Landlocked Cruiser
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posted 05-31-2004 02:56 PM

Don't know if I can deep link this site but here's a try. Kareliya:

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posted 05-31-2004 04:03 PM

I like this pic of Ukraina. Is the Cold War over, or what?

(Source: Fakta om Fartyg)

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Karsten
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posted 05-31-2004 04:45 PM

Maksim Gorkiy + one of the 5 Kareliya-sisters, probably Kareliya ... ???

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sslewis
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posted 06-01-2004 07:03 AM

Right, to determine which of the Gruzya-class(she was the first not Karelya) is next to MG, we need to know when MG funnel was repainted.
I think it was when USSR became Russia, and after the Iceberg accident in 1989.
Gruzya class was still intact, and only Leonid Breznev was rebuilt with extra superstructure at the bow.
The G ship has no such modification.
So it is one of the remaining 4....
Love those ships, but as in RV shiops, get confused after 1989!

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