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PamM
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posted 05-10-2004 07:14 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you're not QM2'd out, I have now loaded the majority of my photos, indexed here. Just a few galleries, scanned handouts/info sheets, postcards & other bits 'n bobs, to keep you going whilst I finish off the last few, but I got a bit bored this evening & my eyes screwed up staring at the screen.
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posted 05-11-2004 06:17 AM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pam,
this is really too much !
Thank you for the full overview.

Of all those rooms and lounges, which one did you like best ? Was the cosiest ? The best visited ? The most overcrowded (you seemed to be alone on the ship).

Tnx

Johan


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posted 05-11-2004 06:35 AM      Profile for RobHolland   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great as usual Pam! I have sended you a private message a few days ago but it's still saying 'unread by recipient'. Hope you'll check it out!

Kind regards,

Rob


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posted 05-11-2004 09:11 AM      Profile for colt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
If you're not QM2'd out, I have now loaded the majority of my photos
Pam

WOW!!!

Thanks, Pam.


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Thanks Pam!!!
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posted 05-11-2004 05:21 PM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great pics, Pam!

You have good eyes and great detective skills.....

Russ


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PamM
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posted 05-11-2004 07:06 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Johan:
Of all those rooms and lounges, which one did you like best ? Was the cosiest ? The best visited ? The most overcrowded (you seemed to be alone on the ship).

Very difficult question.. it took most of the trip to explore the ship, find all the nooks & look at all the art etc. There is just so much and the detail in everything is incredible. I would have loved to return aboard her to have time enjoy what's aboard, as against discovering them all. So I didn't spend hours in the lounges sipping cocktails, deciding which I prefered, but from brief visits..
I loved the Commodore Club & Veuve Clicquot. I did not go for the Chart Room at all, found it rather an empty cavernous room, lacking in any atmosphere, with few chairs placed around the edges.
The Golden Lion was always busy and we never managed to get a seat when we tried for lunch, but good atmosphere. Enjoyed Sam's Wine Bar & Winter Garden. [I did not go to an Afternoon Tea in there as I find these rather 'false' affairs]. The Queens Room went from quiet to busy dependning what was on, but I didn't go for the decor much or it as a room and surprisingly for me, I did like G32, spacious, but cosy corners, and alive.
The Library I could have spent all week in, just for the views as much as anything, and the Atlantic Room is nice with its Lighthouse Pics [when the Bridge Brigade are not arguing over rules! Don't they have anything better to do? ]
Then there are other rooms too.. down in Connexions there is a drinks station with omfortable chairs and people to chat to, also relax along the indoor proms.. so much, I honestly can't say which I preferred overall regarding the public rooms. A lot of the time I went to the Oxford Discovery lectures & JMG's Lectures too which left not a lot of time for much else during the day.
Johan, there is just too much to write about... you will just have to go too
I appear alone a lot of the time as I am always conscious that others may not wish to be in photos, so wait for people to move, or get up early.
Pam

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posted 05-11-2004 09:26 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As always, very nice!
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posted 05-12-2004 05:11 AM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank You, Pam.
I should have realised that you don'thave that many time, with all those lounges and nooks and crannies to explore
I'll have to see for myself, but, alas, won't be in the near future I think (besides the ship isn't old enough yet).
Hats of to your discretion too.

I can't understand why all the pictures, and surely those of yours, of the QM2, posted here on the web, give a more pleasing image of the QM2 than all the Cuanrd publicitiy.

On the other hand, I don't think it is a décor that will stand the test of time - lots of refits the next 3O years, I guess.

J.


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linerguy
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posted 05-12-2004 10:15 AM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"I can't understand why all the pictures, and surely those of yours, of the QM2, posted here on the web, give a more pleasing image of the QM2 than all the Cuanrd publicitiy."

Johan:

I agree 100%. My biggest problem with cruise lines today is the utter lack of style when it comes to brochures. Years ago, steamship lines use to publish wonderful interior booklets, huge deck plans, photo packets, etc. Today, when I open up a cruise line brochure, 80% is filled with itineraries, destination information and photos,...mostly of beaches. Boring.

Hopefully, Cunard will soon release a brochure dedicated solely to QM2.....no itineraries, no pics of beaches, churches, or people riding on camels.

Pam:

Question......did they have a passenger list that they gave to everyone?

Russ

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PamM
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posted 05-12-2004 10:55 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by linerguy:
Today, when I open up a cruise line brochure, 80% is filled with itineraries, destination information and photos,...mostly of beaches. Boring.

..or body beautiful models sipping cocktails/lounging by the pool. Very little of the actual ship if anything. Emphasis is very much on the 'enjoy your holiday' aspect in a resort, rather than a trip on a ship.
Johan a lot of the QM2 stuff around is still showing the earlier pre-finished renderings, these really by now should have been changed. Pictures on the web can look very different from one monitor to the next.

Even browsing through JMG's book the composition of the photos is great, but the printing of them is not so; most are very 'wishy washy' in colouring, other have tints of wrong shades making some areas look positively dull. I would have thought in such a book the printers could have matched up colours a bit better, but as I know nothing about publishing, it may be harder to do than it seems?

Yes Russ, we have a Passenger List. A treasure to keep. [One could exclude one's name if you so wished before it was printed, but no idea how many, if any?, people did]. Colin is there, and so are we.

Pam


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posted 05-12-2004 03:42 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:

Even browsing through JMG's book the composition of the photos is great, but the printing of them is not so; most are very 'wishy washy' in colouring, other have tints of wrong shades making some areas look positively dull.


My book is not like that but it came from Amazon?


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posted 05-12-2004 05:07 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No Malcolm? I would have though they were the same. Just looking at for eg the 3 pics of Britannia on pages 50, 156 & 163. The final one is all yellow, the first one is a washout, but the middle one is just right.. the way I see them anyway. Look at the carpet colouring in all 3. I know there will be some variation, due to the lights/angles etc, but these don't even look like the same rooms, especially the last one. Maybe Iam being picky?

The book is very interesting, but not much on or any photos of the outside deck areas. I have not 'read' it as such, just browsed odd sections of interest, more of a 'coffee table' book than a reader.

I was really looking for some info on the Samuel Cunard Portrait, but I cannot even find a mention of it in there at all? Have you noticed? The index doesn't point to anything.

Pam


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quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
No Malcolm? I would have though they were the same. Just looking at for eg the 3 pics of Britannia on pages 50, 156 & 163.

Oh, I see what you mean!

Yes, there is a variation in colour and colour cast, but this is probably due to different photographic techniques used? I notice the photographer used both film and digital technology.

It must be extremely difficult to light such big rooms? Some have little natural light. I don’t know if time exposure was used to make the best of the available light? Neon tubes and light bulbs do produce a colour casts, unfortunately. Mind you, a top photographer should be able to correct this at the printing stage. Of course there is always the debate of what is the ‘right’ or ‘natural’ colour?

The one with the captains table is probably just ‘flash’, the others would have been lit much more carefully, I assume?

I think the results are perfectly acceptable and the best images of the QM2’s interiors that I’ve seen in a book, but there is not too much competition yet, is there?

I found the text about the building of the QM2, far more interesting than the section on Cunard’s history, simply because the latter is available elsewhere.


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quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
It must be extremely difficult to light such big rooms?

You are right Malcolm I suppose I shouldn't have commented.

quote:
I think the results are perfectly acceptable and the best images of the QM2?s interiors that I?ve seen in a book, but there is not too much competition yet, is there?

Some are indeed very good, but some worse than those I listed above... OK I didn't say that

I see there is a Plisson book due out towards the end of the year. Considering the excellent shots on his website I am hoping this will be a superb book.
I thought Maurizio Eliseo was going to produce some sort of a book of images of her building, but apparently not


quote:
I found the text about the building of the QM2, far more interesting than the section on Cunard?s history, simply because the latter is available elsewhere.

I just sat down this pm to actually read from the beginning rather than browse different secitions of interest, and thoroughly enjoying it, very good indeed. Well worth buying, for those who haven't got it.

Pam


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Pam said: You are right Malcolm I suppose I shouldn't have commented.

Of course you should, it is a very valid point.

I suppose it was a race to get the book out as early as possible...no excusses though.

I noticed the picture on page 52 the photo caption says: "Robert Tillberg pauses on one of the vessel's staircases". However, it looks more like his office to me!


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posted 05-14-2004 11:19 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, he's certainly pausing on a staircase, but it definitely isn't one of QM2's. On page 48 the caption says "a trove of brand new Wedgwood plates ready to go onboard", but they appear to already be aboard, a small stack of 8 plates, on white tablecloth, with rose in vase, cup/saucer, salt/pepper & wine glasses unless they laid the tables dockside of course.
There are other little things throughout but nothing major. Must be hard writing such a book before things are fully underway as bits & pieces are always likely to change.

Curious as to the reference to the "Indoor Sports center" p66, was it going to be covered? and the golf simulators are by the Pavilion Pool, not the Splash Pool.

Another interesting point, are the plans on p147. It appears G32 was to have been the 'Yacht Club' and Princess Grill, "Empire Grill", I rather like that.
Pam


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quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Another interesting point, are the plans on p147. It appears G32 was to have been the 'Yacht Club' and Princess Grill, "Empire Grill", I rather like that. Pam

I was about to say that maybe it is not considered very PC to call something 'Empire' these days, until I remembered the Casino still is!

G32 should have been desinged more 'yacht Clubish' and been called the 'Yacht Club'. At present it looks like it belongs on a Carnival or RCI ship!


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I am in this photo:


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quote:
Originally posted by CGT:
I am in this photo
Is that you doing the Mexican wave, then?

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OK.. Spot CGT.. I'd say either the chap at the back in coat, or the one to the far right?
I have another shot of this group, not online though.
Linerguy, Russ is in one of the other photos in that album. Wish I'd have known at the time.
Pam

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Okay Pam, neither one of those is me. Also, if Globaliser is referring to the person in the blue with both hands up in the air, that is not me either.
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I've lifted the search for CGT to this thread.

Joe at TravelPage.com


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That's pretty funny Joe
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This is the photo that Pam mentioned that I am in...

Russ


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