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CGT
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posted 04-21-2004 06:46 AM      Profile for CGT        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From the New York Times

North Atlantic Storms Slow Queen Mary 2's Maiden Voyage to New York
By JAMES BARRON


After rocking in gale-force winds that sent crystal glasses and flower vases flying and passengers clamoring for seasickness medicine, the Queen Mary 2 is running late on its maiden voyage to New York.


Exactly how late remains to be seen, but definitely too late for the "Today" show. The arrival of the Queen Mary 2 - the 1,132-foot-long Cunarder that is the world's longest, tallest, widest and most expensive passenger ship - had originally been timed for morning television tomorrow.


For much of the day yesterday, Cunard officials said that they expected the ship to make up much of the time it lost when it slowed down for two cyclonelike weather systems in the North Atlantic. But last night, they said it would not sail under the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge and dock in Manhattan until about 10 a.m., two hours behind schedule.


Yesterday, the ship was reported 160 miles south of Cape Race, Newfoundland, the location of the telegraph station that picked up distress signals after the Titanic hit the iceberg that sank it in 1912. Among the 2,600 passengers and 1,250 crew members on board are cruise buffs who have crossed the Atlantic on the ship's smaller predecessors, gossip columnists and tabloid reporters writing about jewel-topped tables and lobster dinners, and waitresses waiting to see New York for the first time.


From the Queen Mary 2, passengers told of waves that slammed against the upper decks of a ship as tall as a 20-story building. They said the ship was bobbing through seas so rough that cabin doors slammed and drinks were flung from the well-polished bars.


"It's definitely been an adventure," Julie Davis, a Cunard official, said by telephone yesterday. "We had a wild ride that first night. We were rocking and rolling."


Another passenger said that on Monday, there was cheering as waves crashed against the plate-glass windows in a third-deck restaurant.


"It was very much a carnival atmosphere," said the passenger, Alistair Turk, a civil engineer from London, "and the passengers and waiters were keeping an eye on the windows to see when the next big wave was coming on."


Six levels above, in the Commodore Club, "you were getting the spray coming right over the windows, which was excellent," he said.


The ship left Southampton, England, on Friday, and ran into bad weather off Scotland. Debbie Nathanson, a Cunard senior vice president in Miami, said that over the weekend, the ship was buffeted by winds of 55 to 63 miles an hour - the strength of a tropical storm, weather experts say.


By yesterday, Ms. Nathanson said, the ship was pushing through a patch of the Atlantic where winds were 39 to 46 miles an hour.


Todd Miner, a meteorologist with Penn State University, said the Queen Mary 2 had sailed through two powerful weather systems. "It took a one-two punch, with punch No. 1 being stronger in terms of magnitude and duration," he said.


Cunard says the Queen Mary 2 can cruise at 30 knots, or about 34.5 miles an hour. But Ms. Nathanson said the captain, Commodore Ronald W. Warwick, had reduced speed considerably to avoid damage.


"His report is, the ship is performing extremely well," Ms. Nathanson said. "I've gotten some e-mails from passengers who just love it, because they're steamship buffs and they like a slightly rougher ride. The ship is built to cover the Atlantic in these conditions, and from everything we're hearing from the officers, it's performing beautifully."


Mr. Turk, who said he had made more than a half-dozen trans-Atlantic crossings on the Queen Elizabeth 2, said there was always a chance that an April trip would be bumpy.


"You tend to compare a ship as big as this to a hotel, a resort," Mr. Turk said. "You get out on the Atlantic and feel movement, you realize it's a piece of engineering. We had pretty rough weather, from what was being announced, but the stewards were still delivering drinks."


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-21-2004 07:05 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had a chat onboard the QM2, pre Transatlantic with the third officer, Ben Lyons, the first ever American Office of a Cunard vessel. (He's a mere 25 years old too, I belive)

Ben a charming fellow, gets to ‘drive the boat’ (his words, not mine) said he was hoping for the chance to give the ship a real test!

This is it!


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posted 04-21-2004 07:32 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is here official test. Only now they can actually see how the ship perform in such conditions. And i believe that she run well.
Welcome to your playground Queen Mary 2.

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colt
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posted 04-21-2004 07:40 AM      Profile for colt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My in-laws leave Sunday from New York on the QE2 on her last official transatlantic crossing. My mother-in-law will enjoy the rough seas, as she has on past crossings. However, we are wondering how my father-in-law will do on this, his first, transatlantic crossing? Wish i could be with them.
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posted 04-21-2004 09:26 AM      Profile for annnthony   Email annnthony   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
QE-2's last leg of the World Cruise last year arrived in NY on April 23rd. We, too, had a Force 10 for about 16-18 hours, beginning mid-afternoon of our second day....one wave "darkened" the Brittania Grill for a few seconds during dinner....lots of broken plates/glass. We arrived on time, with pretty good sea conditions/weather the last two days.
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posted 04-21-2004 11:07 AM      Profile for Globaliser     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's not a proper cruise unless you've had some rough weather. And clearly it's not a proper ocean liner unless it's had a good Atlantic storm or two.
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 04-21-2004 12:19 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have also experienced the wild N. Atlantic a couple of times and it is part of the fun! The rougher the better, as a slight swell can make you a little seasick (at least me!). On QE2 a couple of years back we had two days of very rough seas and the sensation of that huge ship being lifted and literally dropped (along with the sound of serveral glasses being broken) can seem impossible to imagine when comparing it to calmer days.
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posted 04-21-2004 01:24 PM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wonderful news!
Pam wouod have been bored otherwise...
Can't wait for pictures...
Perhaps paint got scratched from her bows, making her a real Transatlantic liner!
Maksim Gorky is already in the Big Apple, waiting to look up at the new giant of the oceans..

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posted 04-21-2004 01:59 PM      Profile for billee   Author's Homepage   Email billee   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm sailing on the QM2 tomorrow for the 2 night inaugural and received the following e mail from Cunard: Dear Queen Mary 2 Guests, Good news! Weather has improved on the Atlantic and the Queen Mary 2 will now arrive in New York at 8am as originally scheduled. Please ignore yesterday's e mail. Check in times are as follows:Check in times 2:30pm onwards, embarkation 3-6pm
We look forward to welcoming you aboard.
She is truly an ocean liner.

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Brian_O
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posted 04-21-2004 05:16 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
QM2 first ran into the bad weather off the coast of Scotland? Sheesh! Revisionist geography, methinks. Someone needs to return his/her high school diploma.

The New York branch of the World Ship Society reports that QM2 has now made up the lost time and will arrive on schedule tomorrow morning. Given the storm reports, this represents fantastiic performance on QM2's real maiden voyage....the rest were just practice runs.

Brian

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posted 04-21-2004 06:07 PM      Profile for Barryboat   Author's Homepage   Email Barryboat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm:
quote:
I had a chat onboard the QM2, pre Transatlantic with the third officer, Ben Lyons, the first ever American Office of a Cunard vessel. (He's a mere 25 years old too, I belive)

When I was working aboard the QE2, a young passenger was crossing with his father, and he was so enthralled by the QE2. He reminded me of myself, when I was his age...so enthusiastic about the Queen Mary and ocean liners. It was a dream come true for this kid at such a youg age to be crossing on the QE2. (it was also a dream come-true for myself to be working aboard the QE2) I spent some time with him touring the ship, and I remember giving him a tour of the dog kennels. After I signed-off of QE2, I stayed in touch with this kid, and watched over the years as he advanced through schooling to become an officer. He worked aboard the Patriot as an officer, in it's brief stint with United States Lines. He's written ship articles for Porthole Magazine, and others. I bumped into him aboard the Travel Agent pre-inaugral cruise on the Zaandam.

Wow! This kid, Ben Lyons, is certainly reaching for his dreams...I didn't know he was working aboard QM2! I'll have to get in touch with him again to congradulate him! Great job Ben!!!


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posted 04-21-2004 06:16 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Barryboat:
He worked aboard the Patriot as an officer, in it's brief stint with United States Lines.

That's the guy!

He applied for QE2 late last year but instead found himself working on the QM2 - he just loves it!


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posted 04-21-2004 09:25 PM      Profile for Barryboat   Author's Homepage   Email Barryboat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder if Ben was onboard when I was on during the January media cruise? Two days just ain't enough time to explore that vast ship.
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Posted by: Barryboat

I wonder if Ben was onboard when I was on during the January media cruise? Two days just ain't enough time to explore that vast ship.

Yes Ben was on board then. I can confirm that ben was on board since the ship left the ship yard.
I worked on a safety Issue with Ben and found him probably one of the most professional officer who stayed on board the QM2 at the time. And probably the most passenger orientated officer on the ship.
And if anyone meets him in the near future, ask him how the both of us almost meet the sea during a boat drill. It certainly will be an interesting topic of conversation.
If only Cunard had employed more crew of Ben's standards, what a happy and competent crew the QM2 would have.


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