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Topic: She doesn't look half-bad from this angle (Diamond)

jsea
First Class Passenger
Member # 3816

posted 03-23-2004 10:22 AM

Thanks to 'Greg and Kelly' for the shots. Complete gallery here:

Diamond Inaugural

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CGT
First Class Passenger
Member # 3531

posted 03-23-2004 10:47 AM

I've always thought that the Diamond/Sapphire look much better than the Grand/Golden/Star. In addition, I think I am the only one in the world who actually LIKES the pods!

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sslewis
First Class Passenger
Member # 3649

posted 03-23-2004 11:16 AM

She is absolutely fabulous..
Not only the best of the Grand-class, but the better 100k tonners too!
Look at this Italian bow, recalling Galileo, Oceanic, Eugenio..and you can safely walk aroud it!
Very clever of the designers to allow passengers to walk around the bows, imagine watching Dolphins?
Anybody went there with a camera?
Good thing the "Ferrari","FIAT", "Trolley cart handle" is a thing of the past...Hope the earlier ships will be retrofitted!

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CGT
First Class Passenger
Member # 3531

posted 03-23-2004 11:41 AM

quote:
Originally posted by sslewis:
She is absolutely fabulous..
Not only the best of the Grand-class, but the better 100k tonners too!
Look at this Italian bow, recalling Galileo, Oceanic, Eugenio..and you can safely walk aroud it!
Very clever of the designers to allow passengers to walk around the bows, imagine watching Dolphins?
Anybody went there with a camera?
Good thing the "Ferrari","FIAT", "Trolley cart handle" is a thing of the past...

It's not quite a thing of the past. CARIBBEAN PRINCESS and CARIBBEAN PRINCESS 2 will both still have the shopping cart handle for some inscrutable reason.

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 03-23-2004 04:45 PM

Sorry i don't like this ship and the grand sisters before here. Frome the 100 tons i like the Carnival ships better looks fantastic.

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 03-23-2004 06:04 PM

I prefer the DIAMOND and SAPPHIRE over the Grand-class ships....If only they take away the hidious funnel, its perfect compared to the other GRAND-class designs...

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rd77
First Class Passenger
Member # 2117

posted 03-24-2004 04:24 AM

CARNIVAL DESTINY is by far the best 100k plus cruise ship. Her near sisters are slightly less good looking with that extra deck. 2nd best looking is the Voyager class. I find all GRAND and DIAMOND class vessels to be the ugliest cruise ships EVER built...

Of course there is also a rather good looking 150k liner, but we've already discussed that enough I think

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mec1
First Class Passenger
Member # 4287

posted 03-24-2004 06:03 AM

I agree with you. I think all of the Grand Class ships are hideous. The bow, far from being like that of Oceanic, is stubby and bloated. Having sailed on an inaugural cruise on Golden, I couldn't believe how poor the standard of finish was - peeling decks, rust, cheap deck surfaces and a decor that gives a new dimension to the word bland. Compare her build quality with that of Meyer-Werft or Chantiers and it is quite shocking.

In my opinion, QM2 is easily the best looking 100K+ shipe ever built.

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Cambodge
First Class Passenger
Member # 906

posted 03-24-2004 08:02 AM

From the angle of the photo. it looks absolutely square! Compare that with the long lean lines of the great ships of the past, "France," "Leonardo," others.

Ugly, ugly!

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Darrell
First Class Passenger
Member # 113

posted 03-24-2004 09:56 AM

CGT, yes you may be the only person in the world who likes those pods, lol.

But I am probably one of the few who actually LIKES the Shopping Cart handle. I think it adds a balance to the very wide and attractive bridge. Plus, if you've ever been on a prior Grand sister, the view and atmosphere is awesome up there.

I am sailing Caribbean Princess in May and very happy she has her Formula 1 spoiler.

Darrell

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sslewis
First Class Passenger
Member # 3649

posted 03-24-2004 10:07 AM

My granmother used to say "do not mix coconut and apricots".
I think the Grand class and superior japanese cousins can only be compared to ships built since 1997, when the Carnival Dynasty came around.
Grant it, Eugenio and Oceanic are not comparable.
What I meant is that the bow curves like the one of Oceanic, Galileo when seen from the profile.
There might be some finish problems, which justify the FIAT nickname, but the ships are evolving in a nice way.
I love these futuristic turbines on top of the funnels.
We are in the 21st Century, and it is time to look ahead, not behind.
Is there a ship on which one can walk around the bows at sea?
Does anyone fancy Farcusian vertigo?
Hoew about being spied from above in the RCCL Disney style walking street?
The Grand is so far the best and getting better, but it takes many to make a world!

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CGT
First Class Passenger
Member # 3531

posted 03-24-2004 10:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by rd77:
CARNIVAL DESTINY is by far the best 100k plus cruise ship. Her near sisters are slightly less good looking with that extra deck. 2nd best looking is the Voyager class. I find all GRAND and DIAMOND class vessels to be the ugliest cruise ships EVER built...
Of course there is also a rather good looking 150k liner, but we've already discussed that enough I think

That's funny because I think ALL Carnival ships are compelely fugly (yes, fugly, that's not a typo) espeically their ugly looking winged funnels.

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linerguy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4289

posted 03-24-2004 02:47 PM

While not a big fan of the Destiny class, I am less of a fan of Princess' ship....especially this one.

It's just gross.

Russ

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Fairsky
First Class Passenger
Member # 781

posted 03-24-2004 03:21 PM

The best design I've seen for a 100,000+ ton ship, apart from QM2, was the SuperStar Sagittarius II intended for Star Cruises but never built.

That ship, to be built by Meyer Werft, looked to have sleek lines (missing from Voyager-class), unity of design (missing from Grand-class), and some elegance (missing from Destiny-class).

I wonder if they will ever resurrect that design for NCL? Not likely anytime soon.

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 03-24-2004 03:49 PM

I would not say it is the ugliest ship ever, The Grand Princess is far less attractive with that hideous stern and sky walk. The prize for ugliest in my opinion are the newbuilds of MSC. Their "beak like" excuse for a bow and really square superstructure in my opinion is the worst (a shoebox with a bow). Talk about trying to spend as little money as possible in creating a nice design! Remember, new cruiseships are built from the inside out. To hell with a lovely profile, it is all about maximum interiors space. The days of really beautiful ships are over. The QM2 at least trys to show a nice profile, but almost every ship built is the last 15-20 years had been hard on the eyes.

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rd77
First Class Passenger
Member # 2117

posted 03-24-2004 04:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CGT:
That's funny because I think ALL Carnival ships are compelely fugly (yes, fugly, that's not a typo) espeically their ugly looking winged funnels.

I think the Carnival funnel design is great. it's about the best funnel design I've seen in the past twenty years. I bet you didn't like the FRANCE/NORWAY's funnels then either?

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 03-24-2004 08:33 PM

quote:
Fairsky posted:
The best design I've seen for a 100,000+ ton ship, apart from QM2, was the SuperStar Sagittarius II intended for Star Cruises but never built.

Totally agree! IMO, Meyer Werft builds the best looking ships!

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Captain Rhone
First Class Passenger
Member # 3498

posted 03-24-2004 09:23 PM

How does this one look?

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CGT
First Class Passenger
Member # 3531

posted 03-24-2004 09:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rd77:
I think the Carnival funnel design is great. it's about the best funnel design I've seen in the past twenty years. I bet you didn't like the FRANCE/NORWAY's funnels then either?

No, the French Line pulled it off and did it right.

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Landlocked Cruiser
First Class Passenger
Member # 4297

posted 03-24-2004 10:14 PM

The thread topic reads, "She doesn't look half-bad from this angle (Diamond)." Like many, I was very critical of Diamond's looks on an earlier thread that featured a head-on bow shot. She looks a bit better from nearly any other angle, although I am still no fan.

Disney's ships, on the other hand, are two that I generally like the looks of. But if I had to judge her from this shot alone, I'd think Disney Magic the "fugliest" cruise ship of all:

John

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CGT
First Class Passenger
Member # 3531

posted 03-24-2004 10:26 PM

Actually yeah, MSC's new ships are pretty lame but Festival had one that I saw that was even worse, EUROPEAN STARS I think, or maybe it was VISION, I can't remember. A big box, basically.

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