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Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
Surely that is not it’s final location?

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Dave the Wave posted:
Isn't that where the basketball was?

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Originally posted by Keitaro:
I wonder how it affects the mini golf course...

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I hate it. It's so much of an afterthought and it looks it. At least on the new ships the wall was designed to be there so it doesn't take away from their profile.

Years ago, RCCL boasted about the Viking Crown lounge and it's wonderful 360-degree view. In one stupid move, they did away with a feature that helped them establish their identity......

I wonder how many passengers elect to use the wall in comparision to the number of passengers who visit the Viking Crown.

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Originally posted by linerguy:
Years ago, RCCL boasted about the Viking Crown lounge and it's wonderful 360-degree view.

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I hate it. It's so much of an afterthought and it looks it. At least on the new ships the wall was designed to be there so it doesn't take away from their profile.

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True for the Voyager class, not the Radiance class. If you look carefully at the funnel structure or if you ever see early sketches of the RD, you will notice it. It was added because of its success on VY.

Stonehenge goes to sea!

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Originally posted by Commodore:
Trust me some people ARE stupid enough to book cruises because of a rock climbing wall or ice-skating rink. buttons.

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Originally posted by Commodore:
Trust me some people ARE stupid enough to book cruises because of a rock climbing wall or ice-skating rink.

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I think it is unfair calling people stupid if book a cruise on a ship with a varied range of sporting facilities, be it an ice rink a rock walls. These people are buying a place on a floating resort. They are not trying to buy into a recreation of the golden age of Ocean Liners, such as offered by the QM2.

If someone books a cruise SOLELY and EXCLUSIVELY for the fact that it has the rock climbing wall and the ice skating rink, and then never uses it when onboard, then why book that ship? Why not book a Grand-Class or any other 100,000 ton floating resort/shopping mall?

What is it about the fact that a ship has a rock climbing wall and an ice skating rink that makes people book it, if they are not going to use it?

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What is it about the fact that a ship has a rock climbing wall and an ice skating rink that makes people book it, if they are not going to use it?

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I agree. People book a cruise for different reasons...itinerary, ship, size, facilities, etc.

If they book a ship because it has a rock climbing wall, chances are, they're going to use it; and if they don't, big deal, it's their choice.

It doesn't make them stupid.

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Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
Probably the same reason that people take out annual membership of their local gym, but only go once!

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Ummm...that would be me, 1 week before I go on the cruise so I can fit back in to my suit, loose 5 pounds so I can gain it back! :-(

[ 02-05-2004: Message edited by: dmwnc1 ]

I fault RCI for the placement of the rock climbing wall on the Sovereign-class because it destroys an otherwise wonderful view; it also sticks out like a sore thumb. I don't, however, find fault in the idea.

The "bad crowd" you refer to is nothing new. From the earliest liners to today's modern ships, including QM2, the number of those traveling in "steerage" (in terms of berths)
has, in most cases, exceeded those passengers
who can or are willing to pay more. And while the poor slobs in steerage sailing on Imperator in 1913 may not have had the social graces of those in first class, they were, just as today, the company's bread and butter.

I do understand your frustration in the statue being damaged on Norwegian Dawn. It makes me mad just to hear about it.

Thanks for the reply.