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cncservo
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posted 06-28-2003 06:18 PM      Profile for cncservo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have a great idea for on board excitement. I believe an extendable arm can be installed that will lower a bullet type chamber into the ocean as the ship is traveling. This pod will have high visibility to the ocean creatures and hold several people as it cuts through the waters. This can be hydraulically operated to raise and lower several feet into the ocean.
It could be designed to have strairs that unfold when the pod is lowered into the water allowing people to come and go at random.
Of course a much less expensive way to watch the sea creatures would be an underwater camera viewable to all the in room TV's.

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shipcafe
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posted 06-28-2003 08:08 PM      Profile for shipcafe   Author's Homepage   Email shipcafe   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Option 'A' would certainly create concern for cruise line executives as it creates drag in the water and, thus, creates a fuel efficiency concern. It sounds minimal but I'm sure that that would be on the list.
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cruiseny
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posted 06-28-2003 08:41 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Closest thing to this would probably be the "underwater portholes" on Star Clippers' ROYAL CLIPPER.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-29-2003 06:11 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
An interesting idea, but full of risk!

I wonder is a glass bottomed cruise ship would work? Would you actually see anything?


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RobHolland
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posted 06-29-2003 06:50 AM      Profile for RobHolland   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have my doubts as well about seeing anything under water. Seawater is usually very unclear and vision will be very restricted. But maybe someone has some images/ experiences with the underwater portholes of Royal Clipper? I read about it on this board before and I am intersted in how this would look like.
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Onno
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posted 06-29-2003 07:27 AM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually not a new idea. I have heard and seen a couple of these ideas in various articles about design concepts before. Not to discourage your but the idea is impractical and has a high risk factor which no cruise line is willing to take, imagine if the capsule broke and all passengers perished how high will the lawsuits be and how high will the insurance be that the cruise line has to pay to be insured.

Not considering practicality what would the advantage be of this underwater capsule?
Most water have little visibility and what is there to see? The waters that are clear and have fantastic corral reefs and colourful sea creatures are restricted for large cruise ships they would simply destroy the delegate reefs with their “brute” power. The waters where cruise ships can come are to deep to see the creatures their and the creatures that can be seen (like whales) are sporadic and they life in depths that can not be reached by such a capsule. Imagine paying for this novelty and seeing nothing.

Also I think the major cruise public has no affinity with what can be seen you have to be a real ocean fanatic or researcher to appreciate something like that, or to have the patience to wait hours and days to gat a few seconds glimpse of an ocean creature.

Of course your idea is as a concept okay, it can result or inspire other ideas with a more practical basis.

Best, Onno


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Brian_O
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posted 06-29-2003 02:44 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If they just reinstated the practice of "keel hauling", passengers could get a really good view without causing too much drag.

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Namlit
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posted 07-01-2003 02:52 PM      Profile for Namlit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From William Falconer's Dictionary of the Marine:


KEEL-HAULING
KEEL-HAULING, a punishment inflicted for various offences in the Dutch navy. It is performed by plunging the delinquent repeatedly under the ship's bottom on one side, and hoisting him up on the other, after having passed under the keel. The blocks, or pullies, by which he is suspended, are fastened to the opposite extremities of the main-yard, and a weight of lead or iron is hung upon his legs to sink him to a competent depth. By this apparatus he is drawn close up to the yard-arm, and thence let fall suddenly into the sea, where, passing under the ship's bottom, he is hoisted up on the opposite side of the vessel. As this extraordinary sentence is executed with a serenity of temper peculiar to the Dutch, the culprit is allowed sufficient intervals to recover the sense of pain, of which indeed he is frequently deprived during the operation. In truth, a temporary insensibility to his sufferings ought by no means to be construed into a disrespect of his judges, when we consider that this punishment is supposed to have peculiar propriety in the depth of winter, whilst the flakes of ice are floating on the stream; and that it is continued till the culprit is almost suffocated for want of air, benumbed with the cold of the water, or stunned with the blows his head receives by striking the ship's bottom.

What about de-emphasising the marine life-viewing aspect of the original idea, and instead just making it a thrill ride? Passengers would be lowered into the water in the capsule, and towed behind the ship. The capsule could have a rudder, so one could steer it back and forth across the wake.

Sign me up!


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Brian_O
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posted 07-01-2003 03:28 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Namlit:
From William Falconer's Dictionary of the Marine:

KEEL-HAULING, a punishment inflicted for various offences in the Dutch navy.


It wasn't only the Dutch. Although the practice was explicity outlawed, Captain Bligh was accused of the practice on at least one occassion on HMS Bounty.

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Originally posted by Namlit:

What about de-emphasising the marine life-viewing aspect of the original idea, and instead just making it a thrill ride? Passengers would be lowered into the water in the capsule, and towed behind the ship. The capsule could have a rudder, so one could steer it back and forth across the wake.

Sign me up!


Thrill ride? I was thinking more in terms of a bet. If a passenger survived he/she would get a full refund of his/her fare in addition to the close up view of marine life. In the more likely event of passenger death, the cruise line would keep the money and be free of liablity.

Of course in reality, I was simply being facetious. Bad me!!!

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BermudaBoy
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posted 07-01-2003 03:30 PM      Profile for BermudaBoy   Email BermudaBoy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, Onno, i dont think that the glass floor would break, they have it in the CN Tower in Toronto. I Doubt they would break. Also with the thechnology they have today I'm sure they can choose something safe.
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