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kaiser
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posted 11-08-2002 11:02 PM      Profile for kaiser   Email kaiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've heard a rumour that the unfinished Project America hull has now been made seaworthy and has begun her tow to Europe.

Is this true? Has anyone heard anything? If true, any photos??


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Ğraikar
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posted 11-09-2002 12:22 AM      Profile for Ğraikar   Email Ğraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I still cant imagine a half completed modern cruise ship sailing across the Atlantic, I seen photos of burnt out ships and half scrapped ships but not in today's times where it seems ships are all superstructure and no real hull...

Maybe the builders website has photos ???

Ğraikar


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Ğraikar
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posted 11-09-2002 12:34 AM      Profile for Ğraikar   Email Ğraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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BTF
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posted 11-09-2002 10:12 PM      Profile for BTF        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know if the Project America vessel can take a direct tow but if not she can probably be carried in pieces by a heavy lift vessel.
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gohaze
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posted 11-09-2002 11:07 PM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Evidently the hull is about 60% complete and she'll be towed to Lloyd Werft in Bremerhaven for completion.
...peter

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 11-10-2002 06:34 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by kaiser:
I've heard a rumour that the unfinished Project America hull has now been made seaworthy and has begun her tow to Europe.


On November 7th it was reported that the former Project America hull intended for Hawaii service (now owned by Norwegian Cruise Line) was is on its way to Europe from Pascagoula, Mississippi.

She is under tow from an ocean-going tug bound for an undisclosed destination, possibly Germany.

Source: Maritime Matters

[ 11-10-2002: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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posted 11-10-2002 05:03 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

Will arrive mid Dec at Lloyd Werft and take 14 months to complete.

[ 11-10-2002: Message edited by: PamM ]


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Ğraikar
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posted 11-10-2002 05:23 PM      Profile for Ğraikar   Email Ğraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks PamM,

I hope she dose not sink !!!

Any idea's what she will look like when complete ?

Ğraikar


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 11-10-2002 05:32 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ğraikar:
Any idea's what she will look like when complete ?


Hopefully better than she does above? Nice picture, Pam. Well found.


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posted 11-10-2002 09:20 PM      Profile for Commodore     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does anyone have NCL renditions of the ships completed?After all,the first Project America/NCL ship is due in 15 monthes.NCL said the made changes to the design.What are these changes?I'm really waiting for these ships to enter service!Does NCl plan to continue the class themselves, such as building sister ships completely in Germany?Will Norwegian hold a Name that ship contest or do they have a name for the first ship?These ships seem shrouded in mystery.
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Fairsky
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posted 11-12-2002 09:52 AM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am so happy to see that the forward superstructure has not been completed yet. The models and pictures I have seen of the ship as designed by AMCV were terrible- with a very tall stubby and boxy forward superstructure.

I do hope NCL has redesigned this portion of the ship- along with the funnel. I know for certain that NCL has redesigned the aft sections that have not been completed in order to accomodate more "freestyle" dinning options.

This ship has potential- its just a matter of how creative NCL gets, and how much money they are willing to spend to design a beatiful ship rather than a nasty one.


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Fairsky
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posted 11-12-2002 09:54 AM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by skyej:
I am so happy to see that the forward superstructure has not been completed yet. The models and pictures I have seen of the ship as designed by AMCV were terrible- with a very tall stubby and boxy forward superstructure.

I do hope NCL has redesigned this portion of the ship- along with the funnel. I know for certain that NCL has redesigned the aft sections that have not been completed in order to accomodate more "freestyle" dinning options.

This ship has potential- its just a matter of how creative NCL gets, and how much money they are willing to spend to design a beatiful ship rather than a nasty one.


here is how she would have looked...


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joe at travelpage
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posted 11-12-2002 09:55 AM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:


I'll bet the fares on this repositioning cruise were rock bottom


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posted 11-12-2002 02:35 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On a more serious note , remind me folks, what was the tonnage and passenger capacity of the Project America ship going to be?

Do we have any details of how that will change as an NCL newbuild (well second-hand build, really)?


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Fairsky
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posted 11-12-2002 02:48 PM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
On a more serious note , remind me folks, what was the tonnage and passenger capacity of the Project America ship going to be?

Do we have any details of how that will change as an NCL newbuild (well second-hand build, really)?


72,000 tons, 1900 passengers, 950 crew, and 840 feet in length.

The only reports I have heard about changes involves redesigning the aft sections of the ship that have not yet been assembled. NCL wants to add more dinning options to the ship, and modifying sections that have not yet been built is the easiest way to accomplish this. I hope the changes extend beyond this, but I don't know.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 11-18-2002 06:20 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by joe at travelpage:
I'll bet the fares on this repositioning cruise were rock bottom

I heard that it is a 40 day tow? If so, that is one hell of a repositioning cruise!


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posted 11-18-2002 09:01 AM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK, there were two hulls a-building as I recall.

Presumably this is the one most completed.

Any scuttlebut as to what is happening with the other one?

And, there is the coastal ship, "Cape Cod Light" unfinished, as I recall. Any facts on this one?

And finally there is the "Cape May Light" also a coaster which made one voyage along the Atlantic littoral before the demise of the line. What of this vessel?

It would seem to be a good fit with the Nantucket Clipper fleet, if the price was right.

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posted 11-18-2002 11:06 AM      Profile for Great Lakes   Email Great Lakes   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the Cape Cod Light is fully completed. It was originally scheduled to enter service before AMCV went bankrupt. But at that time AMCV was already having alot of financical trouble, and because the time the Cape Cod Light was scheduled to enter service would have been its off season (winter), they pushed its maiden voyage back to 2002, but unfortunately AMCV didn't last that long.

Does any here know anything about the future of the Cape May Light and the Cape Cod Light? I heard a rumor once that they had been sold to an Alaskan cruise line as part of Voyager cruises or something, but as far as I know nothing ever came of that.


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