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Great Lakes
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posted 06-01-2002 12:26 PM      Profile for Great Lakes   Email Great Lakes   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
American West Steamboat Co. has won the bid for the Columbia Queen and will be taking possesion of it in mid-July, and I have read that Glacier Bay Cruise Line will be acquiring the Cape May Light and the Cape Cod Light for use in Alaska. Also, does anyone know anything about American West's newbuild, Empress of the North? I have been unable to find any information about it.
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cruiseny
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posted 06-01-2002 03:40 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello,

Now there is one AMCV ship left - Independence, the only ocean-going, US-registered passenger vessel in the world.

She was still the only one that could be on the U.S. register indefinitely, even before Patriot was registered in the Bahamas.

Foriegn-built ships, like Patriot, can be registered in the U.S. until the operator has in service two U.S. built U.S. registered ships. Then the foreign-built vessel must be taken off the U.S. register.

Happy Cruising,
CruiseNY


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Marlowe
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posted 06-03-2002 12:04 PM      Profile for Marlowe   Email Marlowe   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Where did you read about Glacier Bay Cruises getting the two coastal vessels? I ask because I don't believe they have the money for such a major acquisition unless they get help and right now I don't see MARAD granting any guarantees or loans for them.
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cruiseny
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posted 06-03-2002 12:56 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello,

Glacier Bay Cruises is rumored to be connected with Voyager Cruises, who are speculated to have bought Horizon and Zenith (see above thread).

Happy Cruising,
Cruiseny


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Great Lakes
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posted 06-03-2002 03:28 PM      Profile for Great Lakes   Email Great Lakes   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is the link for the website that mentioned Glacier Bay Line and the coastal ships.
Great Lakes Seaway & Shipping
Also, I always thought that Voyager Cruise Line was just another name that the Glacier Bay Cruiseline fleet operated under during the winter months.

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lebelty
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posted 06-28-2005 12:30 PM      Profile for lebelty   Email lebelty   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
heres a quick update form Seatrade Insider:
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Cape May, Cape Cod Light head to auction
27/06/2005
Cape May Light and Cape Cod Light, which have languished near Jacksonville, Fla., since the post-9/11 bankruptcy of American Classic Voyages, are heading to the auction block.
The date is July 26 at the offices of the U.S. Maritime Administration in Washington. The reserve price is set at $12m per ship, said Peter Shaerf, md of AMA Capital Partners in New York, agent for the sale.

MARAD initially asked $40m for the pair of 224-passenger vessels, which Atlantic Marine built at a cost of just over $40m each.

‘This is a chance to reinvigorate the sales process. We’ve seen a lot of interest. [It remains to be seen] whether that interest materializes,’ Shaerf told Seatrade Insider. Inquiries have come predominantly from U.S. buyers, however there has been international interest as well, he said.

‘MARAD would prefer to find a U.S. buyer but ultimately they want to dispose of the assets. My sense is that MARAD will be drawn by the price and the ability to conclude rather than the nationality of the buyer,’ Shaerf added.

‘MARAD could have taken this course three years ago and, had they done so, it is likely the ships would have been assured continued operation in the U.S. register,’ said the lead of a U.S. investor group that eyed the vessels at one point. MARAD did not respond to two requests for comment on Monday.

Cape May Light operated coastal itineraries for several months, but Cape Cod Light never entered service. The ship is close to being completed; it needs a galley and some finishing work, Shaerf said. Cape May Light’s galley needs work for USPH compliance if operations in U.S. waters are planned, according to an industry source. Two independent sources with knowledge of the vessels estimated it will take $3m to $5m to make the pair ready for service.


tyler


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wile1170
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posted 06-28-2005 12:40 PM      Profile for wile1170   Email wile1170   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rumor on this is that former AMCV CEO Rod McCleod is working with an investment group to bring these two back to life....he's been trying to do this for a while now, from what my VERY reputable source has told me.... Looks like now with the ships going to auction, they may have the right opportunity to get them for next to nothing.....could be interesting
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gpcruisedude
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posted 06-29-2005 05:02 PM      Profile for gpcruisedude   Email gpcruisedude   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is a very interesting turn of events for the tow identical sisters! I hope they both do stay together! I wonder if the company that bought the Columbia Queen might be interested in her I believe it is part of the Glacier Bay Cruise Line company which expressed interest 3 yrs ago, However at that time Glacier Bay had different owners however the new owners have quite successfully brought the Columbia Queen back into service and they would be a good addition to their fleet. Also maybe Cruise West would be interested in them!
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BigUFan
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posted 06-29-2005 05:23 PM      Profile for BigUFan   Author's Homepage   Email BigUFan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting post. In line with the question, does anyone remember if Ingalls had actually begun building the hull that should have been Pride of America's sister ship? How far had they gotten, and was whatever that was built scrapped? I was thinking about this since Pride of Hawaii is apparently going to be a Norwegian Jewel-class ship, contrary to what I had originally thought, which was that she was to be a sister to POA.
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r.fiebig
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posted 06-29-2005 06:11 PM      Profile for r.fiebig   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
BigUFan,

construction work for the second "Project America" ship had officially begun when the project was stopped. At that time the second ship consisted of some cut steel and some equipment to be used for it, so construction of the hull itself had not yet begun.

The materials were also purchased by NCL and shipped to Bremerhaven. However, when NCL announced that there would be no sister ship to "Pride of America", they were shipped to Papenburg for use in "Pride of Hawaii". So, that ship will actually contain a small percentage of materials from what was to become the second "Project America" ship.


Best,

Raoul


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