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Dmitriy
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posted 06-20-2001 12:35 PM      Profile for Dmitriy   Email Dmitriy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello everyone! It was nice to hear that Shota Rustaveli is back in service. But what about the rest of the Blasco ships? I was born in Odessa and cruised on some of them several times. The names that come to mind are Fedor Shalyapin and Sobinov (ex-Cunard ships), my personal favorite Gruzya, Petr Perviy and Dmitriy Shostakovich, Armenia, Taras Shevchenko and Ivan Franko. Any information will be appreciated.

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rd77
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posted 06-20-2001 01:01 PM      Profile for rd77   Email rd77   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Dmitriy,

Most former BLASCO ships aren't faring too well, unfortunately. Let's see:

FEDOR SHALYAPIN: Laid up at Ilichevsk, Ukraine. She's a mess after a rebuild was stopped in '98.

TARAS SCHEVCHENKO: Also laid up at Ilichevsk.

LEONID SOBINOV: Scrapped in India, 1999.

IVAN FRANKO: Scrapped in Alang, India, 1997 as FRANK

ARMENIYA: scrapped a few years ago, after a rebuild was halted.

GRUZIYA: still sailing, under a different name, which I can't recall at the moment.


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AJL
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posted 06-20-2001 02:04 PM      Profile for AJL   Author's Homepage   Email AJL   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The GRUZIYA is nowadays named VAN GOGH and is (or was?) on charter to Nouvelles Frontières.

The PYOTR PERVYJ hasn't changed name, I think.

The DMITRIY SHOSTAKOVICH is sailing under the name PALOMA, in the German cruise market.

A picture of the Paloma:

AJL

P.S. I'm sure you will get more precise and up-to-date info about the ships you asked for when our forums's expert for former Soviet ships, Patrick, sees this topic.


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Cruiseguy1
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posted 06-20-2001 10:31 PM      Profile for Cruiseguy1        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We sailed on the Gruzyia when she was based out of Gulfport, MS in 1995. The ship was not very popular; However, I don't believe it was marketed much at all by OddessAmerica. The ship was immaculate and the crew were great even though there were some language barriers at times. The trip was excellent, a totally different cruise experience alltogether. We have been on the large and small ships to various areas. This was a 450 passenger ship built in 1975. When you boarded, from the cuture to the cuizine, the crew made it feel as if you were actually in Russia. The trip was very educational with courses throughout the trip on many different cultural activities, hobbies, native instruments, and cooking. It's a shame that she is gone from the states, because I believe this is one of those "different" type of cruises everyone is wanting today after doing the same thing so many times on the other lines. (Definitley would have been one for you Dambrosi) I wish she were still sailing out of the US so we could go on her again.
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Patrick
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posted 06-21-2001 03:54 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So I do. Thanks AJL.
Hello Dimitriy,

I am a BLASCO-specialist and it´s a pleasure for me to inform you about the current status of the different BLASCO-vessels.

1) GRUZIYA: is now sailing under the new name VAN GOGH for Eltek Shipping Company, Kingstwon, formed by Blasco in 1999. It is chartered to Nouvelles Frontières for French passengers.

2) BELORUSSIYA: is now sailing as the DELPHIN for Dolphin Maritime Ltd., Malta, which was formed as a privated subsidiary of Blasco with German money. It is chartered to Delphin Seereisen and managed by MTC Marine Trade Consulting for German passengers.

3) AZERBAYDZHAN: is currently laid up in the Caribbean after the charter-company Commodore Cruises has ceased operations due to bankrupty. Blasco is currently looking for a new operator.

4) KAZAKHSTAN: is sailing as the ISLAND ADVENTURE under charter of New SeaEscape Cruises on daily cruises from Fort Lauderdale, mainly for Americans looking for gambling cruises. Owner: Blasco

5) KARELIYA: is sailing as OLVIA for Kaalbye and Olvia Shipping Company, Odessa, a privated subsidiary of Blasco. It is mainly chartered to Japanese operators.

6) LEV TOLSTOY: sailing as PALMIRA for PSM Shipmanagement, Schaffhausen (CH) and chartered 50% to Neckermann Seereisen. Still sailing with ukrainian crew and flag.

7) DIMITRIY SHOSTAKOVICH: sailing as PALOMA for PSM Shipmanagement and chartered to Hansa Touristik for German passengers. Still ukrainian crew and passengers.

8) PYOTR PERVYJ: is laid up in Jabel Ali, owned by Sovereign Maritime Ltd., Malta, formed by Blasco. It was long time an eye-hospital in Gibraltar before being transfered to Jabel Ali in the Arabian Emirates.

9) ODESSA: currently still laid up in Naples. I am negotiating to take her over as a cruiseship for German passengers with ukrainian crew in the near future by a new company formed by myself and a collegue. Very good chances to see her back in service soon !

10) TARAS SHEVCHENKO: is still laid up in Ilychevsk and owned by Ukrainian Passenger Fleet (Blasco). The ship will most probably follow the steps of SHOTA RUSTAVELI which is sailing as the ASSEDO already (this is currently discussed by Blasco management)

11) FEDOR SHALJAPIN: still laid up in Ilychevsk. Still owned by Blasco and future is unknown.

12) IVAN FRANKO: was scrapped in Alang in 1997 after a deal with Orient Lines to purchase the vessel as a fleetmate for MARCO POLO (ex ALEKSANDR PUSHKIN) has failed.

13) ARMENIYA: was scrapped in 1995 as the ARM after having sailed a while as the ODESSA SPRING for Odessa Sun Ltd. in Malta

14) ADZHARIYA: was scrapped in 1996

Should you need any more information about any former Soviet passenger ship or the detailed history information about these vessels, let me know.


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Dmitriy
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posted 06-21-2001 04:57 PM      Profile for Dmitriy   Email Dmitriy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Patrick, thank you for such a complete response. Dmitriy
PS: I spent a over a week in Odessa in April'01 and not a single passenger vessel came in the port...

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PauloMestre
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posted 06-21-2001 05:28 PM      Profile for PauloMestre   Email PauloMestre   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Patrick, do you think BLASCO will return the FEDOR SHALJAPIN to active service?

Regards

Paulo Mestre


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HomeLines
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posted 06-21-2001 07:50 PM      Profile for HomeLines     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Patrick,

Wow, thats a great lineup of ships. Which of those ships (still around) is a sister to the Marco Polo (ex. Alexander Pushkin)?


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anthemius
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posted 06-22-2001 08:38 AM      Profile for anthemius   Author's Homepage   Email anthemius   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
To Patrick:
Do you know a contact address for booking a cruise on Assedo (Shota Rustaveli), which I know is sailing in the Baltic Sea this summer?

Many thanks for your reply!
m.hipler@tmr-online.de


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NbBrasil
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posted 06-22-2001 09:23 AM      Profile for NbBrasil   Email NbBrasil   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have seen Van Gogh (Nouvelles Frontières) in Heraklion - Greece, last July and apparently it was in good condition, seen from the pier.
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Nico
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posted 06-22-2001 12:55 PM      Profile for Nico   Email Nico   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Please help how to insert a picture in the message

Thanks


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Patrick
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posted 06-22-2001 12:58 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
to Dimitriy: Odessa is known as the best port in Ukraine and the most frequented one during Black Sea Cruises. It always depends, which ship is which time on a Black Sea itinerary. I know that MAXIM GORKIY, ASTOR, DELPHIN, PALOMA, PALMIRA or IRIS for example call in Odessa several times a year. Of course you unfortunately can't compare it anymore with the glamorous times when Blasco was the leading shipping company in the world.

to Paulo: Blasco has recently recieved new financing-support for their privated subsidiaries. This allowed them to bring back the SHOTA which is currently the best ship in the laid-up trio. TARAS and FEDOR did not recieve security certificates yet and still some work has to be done. The FEDOR is already old, a comeback could be possible but is not discussed that much yet that coming back with TARAS.

to HomeLines: The TARAS SHEVCHENKO and SHOTA RUSTAVELI are sisterships of MARCO POLO. The further sister MIKHAIL LERMONTOV sank in 1985 and the first on of this series, the IVAN FRANKO, was scrapped in 1997.

to anthemius: I will find this out for you !


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Karsten
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posted 06-22-2001 02:41 PM      Profile for Karsten   Author's Homepage   Email Karsten   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Van Gogh was booked for 2 calls at Amsterdam, but the calls were deleted in the Amsterdam cruise ship list. And as I was at Amsterdam on 24.05., a man who works for the port said to me that the calls were cancelled.

Do anybody know why?


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NbBrasil
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posted 06-22-2001 09:05 PM      Profile for NbBrasil   Email NbBrasil   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Patrick
Do you know something about Leonid Brezhnev (75),Ilich (73) and Mikhail Sholokhov (86) ?
Thank you

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Patrick
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posted 06-23-2001 01:47 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The LEONID BREZHNEV was built in 1975 as the KARELIYA at Wärtsilä Yards in Finland. It was the last of a series of 5 identical sisterships, created for cruises as well as for ferry service. It was although only used for cruises. In 1982 it was renamed LEONID BREZHNEV and chartered to jahn Seereisen in 1986. In 1989 the ship was renamed KARELIYA again. In 1997 the ship was arrested in Haifa / Israel and was later transfered to a Blasco-subsidiray called K&O Shipping Company, Odessa (Kaalbye & Olvia). The ship was renamed OLVIA and is under charter to various japanese operators, like Peace Boat Cruises. The ship is doing a more or less good job.

The ILIYCH was bulid in 1973 as BORE I for Bore Steamship Company, Helsinki. It became the SKANDIA in 1981 for Finska Angfartygs A/B EFFOA before being transfered to their brand Stena A/B and renamed STENA BALTICA. 8 days later it was sold to Blatic Shipping Company and renamed ILIYCH. It served long time on the so-called ScanSov Line.
After the collapse of Baltic Shipping Company in 1997, the ship was sold to KS Windward Venture and placed under bare-boat-charter to Estonian Shipping Company / Estline. It was renamed BALTIC KRISTINA and is successfully cruising, together with her former Baltic Line fleetmate ANNA KARENINA (now REGINA BALTICA) in the Baltic Sea.

The MIKHAIL SHOLOKOV (one of 7 identical sistership build in Poland) belongs to Far Eastern Shipping Company, Vladivostok. The ship, after cruising many years in the Pacific under a joint-venture between Russia and Australia, called Pcific Cruise Company, the ship was transfered in the Baltic Sea two years ago and has replaced her sistership RUSS on the ScanSov Line. The RUSS was instead chartered by Mano Maritime to replace the DIMITRIY SHOSTAKOVICH which became the PALOMA for PSM Shipmanagement.


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AJL
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posted 06-23-2001 05:24 PM      Profile for AJL   Author's Homepage   Email AJL   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Picture of the Baltic Kristina (ex-Ilyich), in Stockholm, Sweden:

and in the same place the same day, the Mikhail Sholokhov:

AJL

[ 06-23-2001: Message edited by: AJL ]


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NbBrasil
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posted 06-24-2001 06:38 AM      Profile for NbBrasil   Email NbBrasil   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Patrick and AJL.
I will try to insert a photo of Van Gogh.

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rdv1111
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posted 06-25-2001 07:46 AM      Profile for rdv1111   Email rdv1111   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Patrick:

Do you have contact information for Blasco? I have some interested parties that might have a service for the Shota or one of her sisters.

Thanks


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Patrick
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posted 06-25-2001 01:37 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is the contact of the headquatres in Odessa:

Black Sea Shipping Company
ul. Lanjeronovskaya 1
ODESSA 270026
UKRAINE

Tel.: 00380 482 252 160
Fax: 00380 482 605 733

manager: Mr. Boris Tscherbak

representative-office in Germany:
Rolandia Schiffahrtsgesellschaft mbH
Schlachte 31
D-28195 Bremen
GERMANY

Tel.: 0049 421 1764 200
Fax: 0049 421 1764 205

Mr Aleksandr Beliaev


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rdv1111
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posted 06-25-2001 02:11 PM      Profile for rdv1111   Email rdv1111   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Very kind of you Patrick, appreciate the help. Good luck with Odessa, she is an excellent design, well sized and very pretty.
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rdv1111
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posted 06-25-2001 02:13 PM      Profile for rdv1111   Email rdv1111   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Patrick:

Wish I had thought of this before, do you have contact information for the current owners of the Lubov Orlova and Mariya Yermontlova? They are the ships that Marine Expeditions was using down in Antarctica until they went bust.

Thanks


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Patrick
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posted 06-26-2001 01:11 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
MS MARIYA YERMOLOVA belongs to Novorossiysk Shipping Company:

1, ul. Svobody
Novorossiysk 353900
Russiya
Tel.: 007 8617 253 126
Fax: 007 8617 279 113 / 279 133 / 279 153
e-mail: novoship@novoship.ru www.novoship.ru

MS LYUBOV ORLOVA belongs to Far Eastern Shipping Company but is managed entirely by the subsidiary Lyubov Orlova Shipping Company

Address:
LOSCO (Lyubov Orlova Shipping Co.)
3, Independence Square
La Valletta
Malta

sorry, no phone numbers, but contact in Russia:
Tel.:007 4232 4411 432
Fax: 007 4232 413 037
e-mail: uef@fesco.ru

Good luck !


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rdv1111
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posted 06-26-2001 02:39 PM      Profile for rdv1111   Email rdv1111   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Patrick,

Your extraordinary, thanks much

Richard


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Patrick
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posted 06-27-2001 01:40 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You´re welcome !

to anthemius: I wasn´t able yet to find the correct contact of touroperator Metropolis Tur concerning SHOTA RUSTAVELI.
What Marchvin concerns, you can contact BLASCO headquaters in Odessa.
I will anyway try to find out more about the T.O..


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Patrick
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You´re welcome !

to anthemius: I wasn´t able yet to find the correct contact of touroperator Metropolis Tur concerning SHOTA RUSTAVELI.
What Marchvin concerns, you can contact BLASCO headquaters in Odessa.
I will anyway try to find out more about the T.O..


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