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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 10-21-2000 03:20 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Which cabins on the Norway are NOT original? (I assume those on the top two decks?)

Which cabins represent good value?

Any comments would be helpfull.


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CruiseShipWiz
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posted 10-22-2000 01:18 PM      Profile for CruiseShipWiz   Email CruiseShipWiz   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I dont know but, I have a question. For her last 16 day Trans-Atlantic, do you think there will be enough cabins to book 2 in late November??? I will try to book 2 interiors.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 10-22-2000 05:02 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
She's got a lot of cabins - and I'm not sure that there are as many Ocean Liner buffs in the big wide world as we might think!

I can tell you that on her pervious "Last" Transatlantic, it was possible to still get cabins a few weeks before departure. So This year should be fine!


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 10-22-2000 05:23 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm:
Which cabins on the Norway are NOT original? (I assume those on the top two decks?)

Which cabins represent good value?

Any comments would be helpfull.


Back to my question!


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tg_lindo
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posted 10-22-2000 10:31 PM      Profile for tg_lindo   Email tg_lindo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For sure, the top 2 decks were not part of the France.

The Fjord Deck houses some cabins that could be configured into multi-roomed suites on the France. On this same deck, more to the aft, Norway has cabins where France had open decks. (From the exterior, on Olympic Deck promenade, you can see the welding lines where the new area was attached.)

A less likely answer can be found down on the Viking deck. VO55, 57, 59 are E-class cabins now, but are not marked as cabins on my deck plans from the France.

IO57 and IO59, on International Deck. are cabins now but used to be part of the children's area and nursery.

N163 and N164, presently Superior Deluxe Suites on Norway deck, were France's Tourist Class Info desk, hotel manager office, purser office, etc.

A FLIP SIDE to this question would be which cabins on France are NOT cabins on Norway?

I draw attention again to the International Deck, to the area near the forward stairwell #1. France had some extremely tiny cabins on the main corridors that do not appear on Norway's deck plans. My France deck plans make it look like these cabins had sinks and toilets, but no showers! Does anyone know whether a liner launched in '62 would not have bathing facilities in all cabins?

I'm sure there are more examples...


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 10-23-2000 09:47 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the info TG.

"Does anyone know whether a liner launched in '62would not have bathing facilities in all cabins?"

That sounds very likely to me - a left over from the old steerage days? Europe's levels of sanitation (and expectations of sanitation) were probably behind those of America, even in the early sixties?

I can remember as a child, (early 70's) unisex toilets in France. The women had to walk past the urinals! France also has urinals in the middle of streets for men, that were more like phone boxes - offering little more privacy than a phone box!

[This message has been edited by Malcolm (edited 10-23-2000).]


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 10-23-2000 10:07 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm:

Which cabins represent good value?

Any comments would be helpfull.



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Strat
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posted 10-23-2000 12:25 PM      Profile for Strat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm,

I'll be brief. My family and I just got off the Norway in July. We had the smallest of the small. I034 and I040. These were, I believe, about 90 SF each. Little room for anything other than the bunk beds, a chair, a TV and the bathroom.

Despite their size, they were perfect for us. My wife and I had one and the kids had the room across the hall. This worked out to be cheaper than the larger room that would sleep all four of us and definitely more private. The crew were great with the kids being in their own room and went out or their way to make sure they were taken care of.

Only problem was that the bunk beds were a bit tight for two people in one bed. We made out OK (pun intended), but I wouldn't recommend it for anyone real large, older, or interested in stretching out when they sleep.

One additional point about location. Being on the International Deck was quite nice since you have immediate access to virtually the entire ship.

My parents had the larger outside cabin next to ours. It was very big, with a bathtub, but only had two portholes instead of a window.

Strat

[This message has been edited by Strat (edited 10-23-2000).]


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KruzinKat
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posted 10-30-2000 06:40 AM      Profile for KruzinKat   Email KruzinKat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We'll be on Norway's trans-Atlantic - and on Fjord deck for the third time because we feel it's a great value. If you email Renegade@adelphia.net, he can give you the specifics (I never remember the figures). Obviously, smaller cabins will probably be less expensive, but you get what we consider very large cabins at a very affordable price - the price you pay is in obstructed views, but that doesn't bother us. There were still cabins available a couple of weeks ago, and our TA thought there might even be later discounting, so she's going to monitor prices (as she always does). But we find it hard to believe that this particular cruise won't sell out. However, if you want one of the Caribbean itineraries, you shouldn't have a problem.

KruzinKat


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gizmo
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posted 10-30-2000 07:59 AM      Profile for gizmo   Email gizmo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm,

We have stayed in P107 4 times. The location is great. The cabin is very centralized. It is on the other side of the casino, but we never heard anything. It has 3 big picture windows and a very unusual layout, the beds face the windows. The largest dimension is the length of the ship. It has a small love seat, table and chair, and the bathroom has a tub. We even turned down an upgrade once because we like the location.

The elevators on this ship are a nightmare. You can wait FOREVER when they are all running. (I have been reading where they have had lots of problems with the elevators the past couple of months) I always felt sorry for someone who really needed one. Being in this location you are close to everything and only have to go up one deck to International deck.


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vulcania
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posted 10-30-2000 09:38 AM      Profile for vulcania   Email vulcania   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
cabins without bathroom in 1962? Of course... passenger liners, even those built as late as 1962, did offer cabins without private facilities. Even LEONARDO da VINCI of 1960, WINDSOR CASTLE of 1960, CANBERRA and ORIANA of that era, TRANSVAAL CASTLE and EMPRESS OF CANADA of 1962 had such rooms...as well as the FRANCE.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 10-30-2000 12:00 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Gizmo, are all the 'P's on the Pool deck similar?
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gizmo
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posted 10-30-2000 12:52 PM      Profile for gizmo   Email gizmo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm,

I don't think so. Ours was classified as a mini suite. I believe this style cabin was only in the center of the ship on pool deck. It was an "S something" I will look at the cabin classification when I get home tonight. I do not know what the prices are running now, but I paid as low as $998 for a 7 day cruise and as high as $1300.
This ship has so many cabins in many different size and shapes. It it very hard to pick one from the classification.
There are nice cabins on the deck with the suites. But we still preferred our cabin on Pool deck to avoid the elevators and be located close to everything.
I had V019 on my first cruise. Upper/lower beds. It was VERY small. Every time I washed my hair in the shower, my elbow banged the wall. It was the smallest shower I ever saw!


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gizmo
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posted 10-30-2000 04:20 PM      Profile for gizmo   Email gizmo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm,

In the brochure I have, (its old) the cabin we had was an S2 cat. and no, not all the cabins are the same on this deck.

Just looked at Joe's link. The cabin I had is AF (first picture).

Wish I were going! Reading this stuff and looking at the pictures kind of make me homesick for this ship.

[This message has been edited by gizmo (edited 10-30-2000).]


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 11-01-2000 04:32 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the info on the cabins guys.

NCL UK still do not have a price with or without the air package!


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posted 11-01-2000 06:46 PM      Profile for bostom   Email bostom   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm:

As you'd only need a o/w air ticket to Miami or NYC and probably one night in a hotel before embarking, does anything prevent you from buying this trip from an American TA?

I'm not unmindful of the fluctuating relative values of our respective currencies but other than that, are non-Americans unable to purchase such a trip for legal reasons? Or do the lines deliberately raise or the lower the prices in hopes of attracting passengers of a particular nationality?

One thought that prompts the question was the arrival in today's mail of Cunard's 2001 catalog. The US $ prices, particularly for Cunard's "line voyages" to and from South Africa next Fall, seem incredibly cheap: about the same for a 15 day trip as a 6 day crossing. Could this be an attempt to attract more Americans to a cruise not likely at the top of most American's wish list because of the distances involved?

Similarly, P&O make it somewhat difficult for Americans to purchase their cruises although their prices here appear much lower than those in the UK catalog, even allowing for air (inclusive from London, added on here.) I'm guessing they wish to retain the "British" theme and have Princess to keep the Yanks happy or so say other posters.

Is it possible NCL is doing the same thing?

Best, Tom



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NAL
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posted 11-01-2000 07:13 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am sure vulcania is right. I remember only
a few cabins with shared baths, I don't
remember any without baths.

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Justine
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posted 11-02-2000 06:31 AM      Profile for Justine   Email Justine   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bostom,
Your question about purchasing trips from a U.S. TA is interesting and one I would like to ask on another thread not to get off topic on this interesting one.
I, being a Canadian have often purchased tickets in the U.S. and it makes Interruption and Cancellation Insurance very ambiguous. I now stay clear away from that situation. Insurance companies sometimes expect full trip coverage from the initial sources. Currency exchange is not the biggest problem. A dollar is a dollar and everyone can calculate proper exchange. I once had terrible angst waiting for docs. that were sent to me by first class mail. Also, every time I start a trip in Canada and purhase sections of it from the U.S. I worry about how it would turn out if I had to use my "comprehensive insurance". Presently I'm still struggling with an Insurance company over the fact that my last trip was purchased from two combined sources. That is the TA for the cruise and the Airline for the flight. TA was well informed and sold me the Insurance for the full duration of the trip. Because I once sold Life Insurance I have a mistrust of policies much more than TA's. LOL

Can any TA's out there enlighten us?


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posted 11-02-2000 07:30 AM      Profile for bostom   Email bostom   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Justine:

You're entirely right: it is off topic. I posed it here in response to the last line of Malcolm's posting. While the Norway has a lot of cabins, they appear to be going quickly for this trip and it might mean someone from another country was unable to book or would have to choose from a limited number of available cabins.

I've bought airline tickets in other countries without problem, albeit at rates higher, I suspect, than those available in the US (VAT?) and it's my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) that in the UK most travellers buy a different form of travel insurance than is available to us in North America - a policy that covers all one's trips during a certain time period, much as my Canadian friends who spend the winter in Florida do to cover them medically when they're away from the Canadian National Health scheme.

I'm concerned as I want to arrange for Australian friends to join us on board the Norway for this trip. I will pay their fares at a greatly reduced 3rd/4th passenger rate which I can add to the total bill anytime up until the final payment date. My TA is trying, so far without success, to find out what the rules are for non-Americans in this situation: something they couldn't arrange themselves even if AUS $ rates were available
as NCL couldn't book 'em into our rooms w/o our OK.

PS: I'm not that generous: they'll cover the onboard expenses which we will easily exceed the cost of their fares (see Malcolm's "Big Bar Tab" thread.)


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 11-02-2000 08:21 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've thought of using an American TA. I'm pretty sure that there is no reason why I can't. However, I'm still waiting for the UK NCL price for comparison.

Here in the UK we tend to pay more for everything! Travel companies probably exploit this. In previous years I've seen NCL offer '2 for 1' deals on all there ships, if booked early. Europeans and Brits were not extended this offer.

In this age of global communications, Email and Net, I feel this such business prasctices are no longer appropriate!


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