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Beezo
Well, to come back to the subject, Russia today has accepted some help from the British Royal Navy. But the situation is still very difficult to watch over since there are no more signs from the submarine and the weather is not very good either.I just hope for the 116 people onboard that they are rescued very soon !
The Russian Navy announced today that there is 118 people onboard the ship, not 116.
Russian Navy tried three times to rescue the people onboard, but they failed. It took 18 hours and then they asked help from Norway and GBR.
The submarine from GBR is now in Norway, and is ready to leave to the place where the KURSK sank.
There has been different opinions of the Oxygen-situation, some have said it'll be enough for 0,4 or 9 days, who knows, I think the right choice is 0 days. By the way, the Foreign Affairs Department of Norway indicated yesterday, that the KURSK sank already in last Saturday, 12th of August, not in Sunday. Russia wanted to cover up thewhole thing, but there happened to be a vessel from USA in the Barentsea, and they told the rest of the world about the explosion and sinking.
I just hope that the help wouldn't come too late and that they would all survive!!
AJL
Isn´t american vessel to weak to lift a submarine at this size? Last time they tried to lift a smaler russian submarine, the liftingclaw broke up in peaces and they lost parts of the submarine. I would not trust the same ship lifting a bigger vessel with living people inside!And now as Russia have asked for help, why is it only GB(with a little bit of help from Norway) who can help, and not the USA?
"DEAD FOR DAYS?
Many of the 118 sailors aboard the nuclear submarine Kursk were probably killed instantly by the explosion that sent it to the floor of the Arctic Ocean, Russia's deputy prime minister admitted yesterday.
New underwater film shows the Kursk has a "terrifying hole" on its starboard (right) side that would have sent the vessel to the bottom in seconds, Deputy PM Ilya Klebanov said. "
This is so sad and heartbraking for the families of these men who are waiting at home for word of their loved ones.
I absolutely disagree with your comment: "Russia has NOTHING". They have so vast amount of nuclear weapons that they could destroy the whole world tens of times and I think that is something!!
However: This isn't the main issue, but the KURSK is. Norway's Seismological Center has received results, that in the Barentsea there were two explosions in Saturday; the other one was about 3,5 in Richter's scale. That's the same power as if 2 tons of dynamite would be exploded...
[This message has been edited by AJL (edited 08-18-2000).]
Quite frankly, I believe that if it werenot for stolen German technology that Russiawould not have been a threat (cold war)after WW 11. Russia repatriated some 700scientists from Germany with the threat of"Do or die" Remember that during thesiege of Berlin there were many Russianswho had never seen a light bulb ! they thought that if they carried them aroundwith them, somehow they would light onthere own ! German technolgy gave Russiathe jump start it needed to become agreat European power and a threat towestern civilization. After Glasnost, Russialeft to it's own device has erroded to whereit is today. Example: The space station...
All of that aside, my heart goes out to the men on the sub, and to thier families.One of the worst things that could havehappened is to be trapped in a tin coffin.
Also, the legacy of WW11 still haunts us, and will continue when countries suchas Russia continue to push beyond the boundsof what is possible or safe for the restof the world.
kbozman.
Is your grandmother 5 years old?!?
The Kursk was built in 1995 and she has many siosterships.
My knowledge is this: Russia hasn't cut it's money for the defence. They can't pay saleries for years to Russian workers, but they use unbelievable sums of money to the defence.
AND BY THE WAY: RUSSIA HASN'T GOT A "COMMUNIST PRESIDENT", AS YOU CLAIMED. THE COUNTRY HAS BEEN DEMOCRATIC FOR SOME 10 YEARS. THE PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA IS VLADIMIR PUTIN, AN EX-KGB-AGENT. THE COUNTRY'S NAME WOULD BE THE SOVIET UNION, IF IT STILL WAS COMMUNISTIC!
MAYBE YOU SHOULD GROW UP BEFORE YOU WRITE ANYTHING THAT YOU AREN'T SURE ABOUT!!! I THINK THAT YOU ARE DEFINITELY A RASIST.
[This message has been edited by AJL (edited 08-20-2000).]
But sorry guys, I don´t think a discussion of such a matter should be held in this forum. Further more we should better think about the poor guys who died in the KURSK !
Well, the Norwegian divers opened the rescue-hatch today, and there was water inside. It was only the outer hatch and they'll probably open the inner one also today. That's all what's new about the accident.
Give him some slack. What had you accomplished by the time you were age 17?
Enough already!
Say a prayer for the families of the men who lost their lives.
Nancy
---------------------------------------------I feel so sorry about all the sailors' families. The accident was never supposed to happen.
[This message has been edited by AJL (edited 08-22-2000).]
He said that even if the sub had not been flooded, the life support systems would probably fail pretty quickly. He felt that the crew would die of hyperthermia within a few hours - long before the air ran out.
Very sad.
An update...today's London Sunday Times says that there were two experts from the Dagdizel plant on board to check on an upgrade of the 'Squall' torpedo. This torpedo has a propeller to leave the tube but then becomes rocket driven using liquid fuel. One Brit expert said 'the danger is if the second stage fires inside the sub. Then you can say goodnight'.
[This message has been edited by gohaze (edited 08-26-2000).]
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