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Topic: Ugly or Not?

Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 06-12-2000 06:54 PM

Festival's Mistral

Whits Star's Titanic

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Caronia
First Class Passenger
Member # 1312

posted 06-12-2000 07:16 PM

Ugly with a capital U!

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sympatico
First Class Passenger
Member # 797

posted 06-12-2000 07:24 PM

I second the motion. That is the ugliest ship I have ever seen.

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mitch
First Class Passenger
Member # 708

posted 06-12-2000 08:05 PM

Who was the designer/architect, engineer or what ever they are called.

It definitely is very square and unattractive , what is the interior like?

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geno-r
First Class Passenger
Member # 931

posted 06-12-2000 08:21 PM

It's so UGLY............. Load torpedeo tubes 1 and 2

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gohaze
First Class Passenger
Member # 586

posted 06-12-2000 08:25 PM

Hi...Deutchland is worse...peter

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Justine
First Class Passenger
Member # 1335

posted 06-12-2000 10:42 PM

Ohhhhhhh my God...........

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K&K
First Class Passenger
Member # 1040

posted 06-12-2000 10:42 PM

Is Mistral a foreign word for Miscarriage!

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LizKiddo
First Class Passenger
Member # 1167

posted 06-12-2000 10:44 PM

Was this picture taken before or after (the accident that lopped off its stern...or is that the bow????)?

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Guest
First Class Passenger
Member # 1157

posted 06-12-2000 10:50 PM

Ugly.

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bonny
First Class Passenger
Member # 1347

posted 06-12-2000 10:57 PM

You guys are not being fair. I have not seen a ship I wouldn't sail on. I love to cruise!

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Carol C
Just Boarded
Member # 1297

posted 06-13-2000 12:39 AM

Mistral=Mistake! But I would still give her a try.

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gizmo
First Class Passenger
Member # 972

posted 06-13-2000 08:10 AM

UGLY UGLY UGLY

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 06-13-2000 09:07 AM

I think the Mistral is from the same yard/design school as P&O's Oriana and Aroura? I understand that the interiors of the Mistral are pretty nice? Festival probably offer a good cruise experience.

Bonny, I'm glad you love cruising! I just happen to think that the Mistral is one of the 'least attractive' of the newer ships!
It's not a matter of being fair, it's just my opinion!

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Vaccaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 465

posted 06-13-2000 10:17 AM

Interiors of MISTRAL (by the way she's named after a wind of south of France, here in Provence/Mediterranean) are among the most attractive, pleasant and intimate ones, for European tastes and market.
Exteriors are, in my opinion too, one of the ugliest afloat, although the possibility to enjoy, see and smell the sea on the aft decks exists and this feature is more and more rare onboard the last realisations.
However, I saw MISTRAL arrive at Marseille about two weeks ago, (the same day there was COSTA VICTORIA, MELODY and STATENDAM too) I took pictures and I can say she's far better for real (as lot of modern ships in fact) than on pictures.

...and be sure I would be very happy to be able to sail on her, as on every "ugly" ship if it was not so expensive for me.

Bye.

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Mercy
First Class Passenger
Member # 322

posted 06-13-2000 10:35 AM

I think with a different stern she would be like most ships today. I never liked the boxed off back end on ships. Grand Princess is one example. I recently saw the Raddison Seven Seas Navigator in Seattle. I think that is an unattractive ship as well. However, ships are like houses, you can't tell what they are like from looking on the outside!
Neat picture of the Titanic, Malcolm

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Ryndam
First Class Passenger
Member # 1315

posted 06-13-2000 01:01 PM

I fully agree with Mercy. Most of the modern ship have an ugly stern (Costa Allegra and Marina, and the Destiny class are some examples) and you can't tell how is a ship from the outside. A ship is like a woman (that's why we use "she"): you can't judge by appearances and the inside part is more important than the outside.

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sympatico
First Class Passenger
Member # 797

posted 06-13-2000 02:50 PM

Vaccaro - that wasn't the Statendam you saw as it is in Alaska - could have been the Maasdam or the Rotterdam.

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Vaccaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 465

posted 06-13-2000 03:40 PM

OOPS! Sorry Sympatico! She was the MAASDAM of course! (I thought of STATENDAM class!).
By the way, I saw the new ROTTERDAM too at Marseille about two weeks before and it was a real (good) surprise because I didn't know she'd come here. It's always moving for me to see for real a wellknown (mainly because of her predecessor in fact I think) ship, always seen in pictures before.
However, I'm afraid I never be able to see for real the old one of 1959. :-(
Bye.

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sympatico
First Class Passenger
Member # 797

posted 06-13-2000 05:55 PM

You're forgiven Vaccaro. Guess you will have to take a cruise on the Rembrandt to see the old Rotterdam. She is a real classic. My husband and I sailed on her many
times and loved every minute of the cruises.
Our first Panama Canal and Hawaiin cruises were on the Rotterdam V.

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Vaccaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 465

posted 06-13-2000 06:01 PM

Thank you and Congratulations Sympatico!
We succeed to turn an "Ugly or not?" topic into a magnificient one about this old ROTTERDAM / REMBRANDT!
Finally, although I know you love the new ones too, all the roads lead towards these old beautiful ones... :-)
Bye.

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Terry
First Class Passenger
Member # 448

posted 06-13-2000 06:32 PM

Has anyone actually sailed on the ugly MISTRAL? I would be interested to hear what they thought. Those reviews I have read on the net have been generally favourable.

By The Way I like the ship although I agree that she along with most other floating passenger boxes are ugly. If you have to choose between a comfortable ugly ship and an uncomfortable good-loking one I think I would take comfort every time.

The old ships looked splendid but unless you were in the best staterooms, the travel experience was not much to write home about.

Terry Donegan

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Fairsky
First Class Passenger
Member # 781

posted 06-13-2000 09:28 PM

Festival has two sisters ships for the Mistral on order (I believe named European Vision and European Dream) to debut in 2001 and 2002. I hope they improve the design for these ships. Also, P&O/Princess has just purchased Festival- maybe they will have some changes in store for the new sisters?

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 06-14-2000 07:13 AM

Terry, you are right. But you would think that in this day and age it would be possible to design both a comfortable and attractive ship.

Image if car designers all produced ugly cars - they would never sell any! OK I know 'looks' are a matter of opinion, but many of us share similar tastes.

Only the French would name a ship after 'wind'

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