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sympatico
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posted 04-03-2000 09:15 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just had an e-mail from a friend who heard that the ship had a rough night off the coast of Japan a few days ago. It was hit by a large wave, probably a rogue wave, which damaged the bow and some of the steel structure. They couldn't close some doors, etc. and the china in the shops was broken. Hopefuly no one was hurt as it happened at 1:30am.
Should be hearing from a friend who is on there right now and will ask her for more information.
Anyone heard anything about this?

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Green
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posted 04-03-2000 10:42 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sympatico - Please keep us posted,


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NAL
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posted 04-04-2000 03:50 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sympatico....

Please keep us posted on Rotterdam VI. Many
of us will be eager to hear news.

I hear echos of the past when we were on
Rotterdam V just outside of Alexandria and
we were hit by two freak waves.


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posted 04-04-2000 05:43 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
NAL - I was thinking the same thing. I remember all the talk when the same thing happened to the Rotterdam V. Hopefully will know more tomorrow or Thursday.

[This message has been edited by sympatico (edited 04-04-2000).]


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posted 04-04-2000 06:52 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
NAL,

Were you actually on Rotterdam V when the waves hit? Was that the time she rolled almost 40 degrees? What was it like?

Joe at TravelPage.com


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NAL
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posted 04-04-2000 10:45 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Joe......

Yes I was aboard. I had an inside single so
I can only say what happened in my room and
what I saw later when things settled down.
Everything, and I mean everything in the
cabin was thrown about. Fortunately it
happened about 5am and nearly everyone was
in bed. I had a bed next to a bulkhead so
that saved me from flying across the room.
So much was broken around the ship. Every
chair that wasn't attached was thrown. The
piano in the Ritz-Carlton ended up on the
balcony. Hundreds of deck chairs went over
the side. Over 200 persons had broken bones.
Some died, but I think that happened later
from complications. The call at Alexandria
was canceled and we headed to Greece as I
remember. The line had made arrangements for
many doctors to be there to meet the ship.
Many had head injuries from falls out of bed.
The fact that so many were in bed kept the
number of seriously injured to a minimum. I
remember a few passengers left the ship in
Greece and did not continue the cruise.


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posted 04-05-2000 07:39 AM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
NAL - that must have been very frightening. Glad you were OK.
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posted 04-05-2000 11:44 AM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That reminded us of our cruise on the CELEBRATION after we departed from New Orleans. We were at 2nd Sitting Dinner. We rounded a bend and hit a very rough piece of current. The ship heeled heavily starboard for about 30 seconds, stewards rushed to keep the coffee pots from falling and a single creme brulee landed on the floor by us. I
almost thought we bought it, because the list hung there,I thought, it's going to capsize. It might have been a 20-30 degree list. Scared? All the way......

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Gerry
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posted 04-05-2000 12:44 PM      Profile for Gerry     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

These ships are much stronger and more stable than people realize. I was 22 years at sea and have been through my share of storms. Damage to the ships in very bad weather is usually superficial but the worst is of course to the passengers inside being thrown about.
I was on board QE2 when she was hit by the giant wave in the N. Atlantic in September 96
It was 30m or 90ft high (Confirmed by a Canadian weather buoy in the area). I didn't even wake up, that ship is so strong.

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NAL
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posted 04-05-2000 01:38 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Gerry......

You must be a great sleeper!!!! Are you able
to sleep during rough seas and heavy swells
as a rule?? I never seem to be able to
sleep in heavy seas even though I've been
through many.

Didn't the wave throw you out of bed??


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posted 04-05-2000 02:19 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We were on QE2 in late May of 1996 soon after she had run into a very big North Atlantic wave. A portion of the bow railing was damaged and the bow decking had a "dimple" that collected water after it rained. I have a picture and I will post it here if I can find it. I believe it was jokingly referred to as the forward swimming pool until repairs were made.

I remember speaking to someone in the crew about the experience onboard when QE2 was going through big water. If I remember correctly, he said that while lying in bed as the bow begins to plunge he would count out the seconds in his head. The bigger the waves, the longer the downward plunge. At the bottom of the plunge, he said it seems like the ship hangs for a moment and then the bow begins to slowly rise again. The whole sequence can be very rhythmic.

When the "big wave" hit he said he counted to a new record. Gerry, were you by any chance aboard for that wave?

Joe at TravelPage.com


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posted 04-05-2000 05:06 PM      Profile for MHP   Email MHP   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I love the feeling of the bow going skywards..The longer the better... its a great feeling. Then that long fall towards the sea. I can stand at the bow for hours enjoying every roll. I love roller coasters as well. A 300' monster is opening at Cedar Point in Ohio in just over a month. Can't Wait!!
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posted 04-05-2000 05:12 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We were on either the Nieuw Amsterdam or Nordam, sitting in the Lido having breakfast, when all of a sudden the bow of the ship went up, the ship shuddered, and then it came down with a crash. What a frightening experience. Found out later from the Chief Officer that we had hit a very large wave - he said he did it for me - thanks. Don't want to feel that again.
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posted 04-05-2000 06:41 PM      Profile for KruzinKat   Email KruzinKat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We were on NCL's Dreamward (before she was stretched into the Dream) during December of '96 (15th-22nd) when storms were falling off the coast of the US and traveling through the Caribbean. Our cabin was No. 6004 - up in the pointy-end of the ship. We had several days of rather exciting up-and-down movement. One night we didn't even TRY to make it up to the Observatory Lounge for dancing because we knew that, even if we could make it up the stairs, we'd never manage to dance. (Dancing can be very interesting when the floor isn't where you expect it to be when you put your foot down.) Even more exciting was being in our cabin. Talk about that loooonnnnng stretch between when the bow goes up and then comes down! And the noises! Incredible sounds as the metal bracing was strained and as the sound of the ship striking the surface of the water again was transmitted through the metal. I expected to be frightened, but never was. I felt quite safe and found the whole thing exhilarating! And slept like a baby - rocked to sleep in a VERY big cradle! We heard later that seas were 12 to 15 feet or so - which probably isn't all that high. But on a smallish ship, it was quite noticeable! I have no desire to experience a rogue, though. Have seen PBS programs about those killers and more than respect the power of the ocean. But I sure miss that normal ocean motion - sigh. 23 weeks from Sunday. We're getting there!

KruzinKat


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sympatico
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posted 04-05-2000 08:28 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
UPDATE - e-mail from friend in Honolulu. "Lesley walked me around the ship and I was able to see some of the damage caused by that wasve. Fortunately the most damage was done to the crew's gym area, so no passenger cabins or common areas were damaged. There was a problem with the domed roof over the pool on Lido deck. They were not able to open it. Since the weather has been so bad, that has not really caused a big concern. I don't know when they are going to fix it. The ship will go back to LA, then through the Canal and on to Europe.
The ship had to stay in Honolulu again today (Apr 5th). They cancelled the Mau stop because of rough seas, so the ship will sail this evening to Kona. They had thought of cancelling Kona but decided to try to get in there."
Sorry this doesn't tell you very much but that's all I know. Maybe it wasn't as bad as I had first thought. It must have been a rough crossing and may be just as rough from Hawaii to LA.

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posted 04-06-2000 01:39 PM      Profile for Gerry     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

Hello Joe,

Yes I was on for the "Big Wave". Thats the one I meant. I realize I said Sept '96. It was actually Sept '95. It was a rough night but it generally helps me sleep. I was on the 4-8 watch. The big wave happened at 0210 on the morning of 11th September. I came up to the Bridge at 0350 hrs and noticed that the Bridge carpet was wet. It wasn't until I'd had my first cup of coffee that I was able to understand what the 1st officer 12-4 was telling me about the wave breaking over the top of the bridge front. There was damage to the deck of the focsle and we had lost the forward whistle again but the ship is so strong that she had just shrugged off the water and carried on.


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posted 04-07-2000 10:33 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sympatico - guess we were lcky on our Hawaii trips - there was hardly a ripple and each port was on schedule. Happy days - Great Cruisin'
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Terri Lee
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posted 04-07-2000 11:30 PM      Profile for Terri Lee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have a friend who is on the ROTTERDAM right now,on the last leg of the World Cruise. She is due back home on April 11th. I will be checking with her about all the problems and I will let you all know how they affected her.

I know she will be full of everything that happened.She actually joined the cruise in Osaka,Japan about the same time as the volcano was rumbling,before finally blowing.
Can't wait for her to return home!!!!


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NAL
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posted 04-11-2000 03:01 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Terri Lee......

Today is April 11th.....your friend should
be home. Please let us know as soon as you can about the big wave. I have friends who
will be boarding soon and I would like to
share with them the news. I will be aboard
in the fall myself so I have interest for
personal reasons as well.

Thanks a lot.


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sympatico
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posted 04-11-2000 05:53 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
NAL - Terri's friend has to get off the ship, get to the LA airport and fly to the east coast. There is a 3 hour time difference, you know and she probably won't be home until tonight! We may not hear anything until the 12th or 13th. Be patient. I am sure Terri will let us know.
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posted 04-11-2000 06:10 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
sympatico.....

Thanks.....I really wasn't trying to rush
Terri Lee....I was just giving a nudge so
she wouldn't forget to get back to us. As
you say, it will be a few days.

Too bad the friend didn't stay on for the
canal crossing to Florida.


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Terri Lee
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posted 04-11-2000 07:57 PM      Profile for Terri Lee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I can't believe it...I've had to re-register again....

And no,ladies,I haven't forgotten.As Sympatico pointed out,my friend has to fly from the West Coast to Toronto(3-hour difference)...that's a five-hour flight.Then has to wait an eternity for her bags....then maybe another wait for the airport transportation home..AND on top of that,it has been snowing all day here,so heaven only knows when she will arrive home,desperate for a drink!!! I will be posting here as soon as I am able.
Wonder why I am having to re-register,Joe????
TL


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NAL
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posted 04-11-2000 08:35 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Terri Lee.....

I hope I didn't make you feel pressed. I am
just eager to hear, but I am happy to wait
til it's convenient for you. How awful your
friend must arrive in a snow storm!


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posted 04-14-2000 08:35 PM      Profile for Terri Lee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well,at long last I am here with my friend's experiences on the ROTTERDAM.(I did try last night but for some reason,I couldn't get on to any site)

The ship was "hit" on my friend's first night at sea,leaving Osaka,Japan.The sea was very rough with 40 ft waves,with the ship going up and down and backwards and forwards and then sideways!She said it was really bad.Everyone was violently ill all night.When the "rogue"
wave hit(although she didn't know what it was at the time) everything went flying.(now we know why the chairs etc are so heavy!)The china and crystal were just left lying in the shops for a long time.She guessed that the staff were too sick to even bother to clean it up. I had sent a fax to her in the vein of"I hear that the earth really did move on the ship!"When she showed it to her friends,they all figured that it must have been on CNN or something....they had no contact with the outside world at this time due to the bad weather....no TV or anything.

The rough weather followed them all the way to Hawaii where it started to get better. In the meantime,it was so rough that the wine in the glasses on the dining room tables actually jumped out and spilt all over the tablecloths. Now that's ROUGH!!

Her one nerve-wracking concern was...having such a large ship being tossed around like that....what chance would the small life-boats have,if the ship went down??????

Some of you may be interested also,to know that there was a Special Memorial Service for the late Captain Hans Eulderink(Master of the ship last year). Most of the crew were present.One of the Social Hosts,Alan,sang "The Lord's Prayer".My friend said that he had a beautiful voice.The whole thing was very moving and she shed a few tears,as did many others.

Well,there you have it.I hope it was worth the waiting for.

TL


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posted 04-14-2000 09:06 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'd say it was a rough passage. Thank you for sharing.

Sorry to hear about Captain Hans Eulderink - we cruised with him several times.


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