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Eric Cruises
First Class Passenger
Member # 957

posted 01-10-2000 05:51 AM

Hello everybody,
Canival, Rccl, Princess have many sister ship, they are the same design. Such as...
Canival: Fantasy, Paradise, Elation....
Princess: Sun, Drawn, Sea, Ocean, Princess..
Rccl: Vision of the seas......

I feel if the cruise line have more than two sister-ship,there interior design and outlook haven't change. That will make the fleet and passenger bored.

What do you think about that??
Do you agree my point??
Please tell me!!

Posts: 301 | From: Hong Kong, China | Registered: Dec 1999 | IP: Logged

Will
First Class Passenger
Member # 472

posted 01-10-2000 08:29 AM

Hey Eric,

I have to agree with you, it is boring. Now it's just not in the same fleet that ships are the same. Look a Costa and Carnival, their 85,000 ton ships are based on the same design.

How would Star Cruises handle this problem?

Posts: 46 | From: Columbus, Ohio | Registered: Jul 99 | IP: Logged

Peter P
First Class Passenger
Member # 374

posted 01-10-2000 11:28 AM

Its not just economy of scale but also economy of series.

Its cheaper to order same kinda ships. Its calculated that best thrift is earned when there is builded 6 "same" ships. I am not talking about "sisterships" since these ships has different decoration but i mean they belong to same "class". So you can wait new "Eagle class" ships to sail in the future.

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Patrick
First Class Passenger
Member # 364

posted 01-10-2000 01:14 PM

The real pioneers of having a fleet of many sisterships were actually the Soviets.
They came up with a series of 19 identical vessels, ordered at MTW yard in Wismar / Germany. During the construction of these vessels, they added and changed many things to the better so that the last ship of this series was already quite different from the first one. But it was a very interesting order for the yard that time.
Many other vessels of the Soviet fleet were of a series of sisterships and it´s interesting to see those ships being operated by several charter-companies, each one with its own style, although looking simular with their outside design.
Famous series were also the "Royal Viking Trio" and the "Sun Viking Trio".
For sure, it´s cheeper for the lines to construct on revised plans of a former vessel. Like this they can save money and can improve the facilities provided on the new ship.
A good example is also the MILLENNIUM class of Celebrity Cruises. The ships are build on the same hull as the RADIANCE-class from RCI, they only change the "line-typical" layout and the inside decor. So you almost won´t recognize that they are all sisterships.
Alreready the EUGENIO COSTA and the OCEANIC were build on the same hull, as well as the COSTA VICTORIA and the NORWEGIAN SKY.
Interesting topic !

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Vaccaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 465

posted 01-10-2000 05:14 PM

As we know, Costa is owned by Carnival (63% in fact).

Hello everybody. As we know, Costa
is owned by Carnival (63% in fact).

Here's another example
of the sisters series. Carnival Spirit and Costa Atlantica.

Only the funnels,
masts and few roofs are different.

(photos Kvaerner
Masa Yard).

Bye.

[This message has been edited by Vaccaro (edited 01-10-2000).]

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Eric Cruises
First Class Passenger
Member # 957

posted 01-11-2000 12:14 AM

Will,
STAR CRUISES will not order more than two sister ships in "one class", because they know that many same design will make passengers and fleet bored. Some people also make confuse between them.
Such as "Leo-Class--"SuperStar Leo and SuperStar Virgo, they are similar sister-ships.
Such as "Libra-Class"--SuperStar Libra and SuperStar Scorpio, they also are similar sister-ships.
Although "Leo-Class" and "Libra-Class" are new buildings, but their design have many different.
So I think today cruise line's newbuildings make cruise fans bored and sad. They should change their design....
In the future, we can find a lot of sister-ships in the cruise-industry........

Vaccaro,
How to put the picture on the reply message?

[This message has been edited by Eric Lee (edited 01-11-2000).]

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vulcania
First Class Passenger
Member # 822

posted 01-11-2000 10:16 PM

Sister ships? Wanna talk sisterships? Admittedly for war purposes, primarily cargo but eventually in many instances for troop transportation, the USA built over 2,500 indentical EC2 type vessles, the famous "Liberty" ships...there were about 500 VC2 ships, the wonderful Victory ships. A good number of them found their way into the bargain basement transportation of passengers business in the first years after the war. Some Victories were fitted as migrant ships and could take 800 third class passengers at a time. There were also about 75 C4 class ships, about 60 of them troopships able to carry over 3,000 men. Some of those were used between 1946 and 1949 as emergency passenger ships with passenger capacities varying from 550 to 950 Tourist Class. Some of them were used through the first half of the 1950s as displaced persons/migrant ships. There were also twenty one "P2s" - big twin funnelled troopships. Two were not built for the military but for American President Lines. They were the PRESIDENTS CLEVELAND and ROOSEVELT. One of the Kearny built P2s went on to serve commercialy as La GUARDIA, LEILANI, PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT, ATLANTIS, EMERALD SEAS, SAPPHIRE SEAS and is now the OCEAN EXPLORER I.
During the First World War, great numbers of identical ships were also built in US yards, like the 122 HOG ISLANDERS and 150 "Sub Boats"...each practically identical to the others.
Why build identical ships? Cheaper, faster more efficient to build and certainly a cheaper, more efficient and easier operation for the home office, especially the purchasing department...

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