There are ships that clearly cater to adults and discourage children. Cunard, Seabourne, Windstar, Radisson etc., all make it clear that children are not provided much in the way of facilities except on unusual and specific cruises. They tend to cater to an older and often more affluent crowd.

You cannot legally prohibit children on board any ship or public accomadation, nor can you prohibit smokers. You can prohibit smoking, an activity, but not smokers a group of people.

Kids on plane, except those travelling unaccompanied, get seated in the same way everyone else on the plane gets seated. In coach, that airlines elite frequent flyers, and those traveling with them, get first choice,i.e. first choice on aisle and window and in the front rows.

Tour groups on discounted fairs tend to get blocks of seats generally near the rear of the aircraft. Everyone else gets fit in first come first served - except for the exit rows which get seated at the airport with only able bodied adults.

Some unaccompanied children are elite frequent flyers flying back and forth from divorced parents on a regular basis.

Just as you can prevent a child from entering a 21 nightclub, you can certainly have a ship the same way.

I have a serious objection to unattended children on airplanes. Even for safety reasons, can you expect a child to grab an oxygen mask and put it on properly in the case of an emergency? I am so tired of parents expecting others to watch out for the well being their own children.

Your right there is no question you can have no children ships. The constraint is the economics of the cruise line. Only the higher cost lines are likely to be willing to make the trade-off.

These days the air is CLEAN at work or when you travel yet you are expected to breath other peoples smoke when you take a sometimes very expensive holiday. ( Even if it is not expensive you shouldn't have to breath in other peoples smoke and also have your clothes reeking of it )

Yes I am anti-smoking and yes I do find the whole habit of smoking disgusting! (especially in public)

Personally I HATE breathing other people's smoke... I do not have any problem with a smoking section, so long is at is well-ventilated and designed so those who don't want to don't have to breathe in the fumes.

I something like HAL's Explorers Lounge it could be difficult to have a smoking section only because it seems as though it would be very easy for the smoke to drift from one part to another.

Celebrity is now in the process of changing their cigar lounges into piano bars; apparently the cigar lounge was not too popular. At the same time HAL has put in the Oak Room on ZUIDERDAM (beautiful) which is used in the evenings for smoking. (Celebrity now has cigar service, outdoors - a good idea IMHO as the smoke can drift away out over the sea and bother nobody .)

Many of the new "luxury" ships (Silversea etc. - not sure exactly who as I don't pay much attention to cigar lounges!) have cigar lounges.

CGT

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Originally posted by annnthony:
WHY WAS THIS INANE "THREAD" resurrected after 3 years, 5 months, and about 1.5 days........and, how do you find one that old?

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1. I don't think it's inane at all.
2. You find it by going as far back in the archive as you like. As far as I know, all the messages ever posted here (except for banned ones) remain here... Dig deep enough and you'll find anything you want.

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Celebrity is now in the process of changing their cigar lounges into piano bars; apparently the cigar lounge was not too popular.

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Originally posted by Ðraikar:
Darn I wanted to someday see that room

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Can people still smoke out on deck ?

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