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Mercy
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posted 12-03-1999 08:27 AM      Profile for Mercy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I found a web site with new pictures of the Voyager of the Seas. These are NOT the ones on the Royal Caribbean site. There are also pictures of the Volendam!!!
http://www.skyscrapertours.com/voyager_of_the_seas.htm

[This message has been edited by Mercy (edited 12-06-1999).]


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posted 12-03-1999 08:55 AM      Profile for cruiseman   Email cruiseman   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Very nice site Mercy....good job!
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Kas
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posted 12-03-1999 10:51 AM      Profile for Kas     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm sorry butI thinkit is the gawdiest looking interior of a ship that I have ever seen. Why would anyone want to go on a ship that looked like the inside of a shopping mall. This is not a ship. It looks like a mall or a casino. I still prefer the old ships with their elegance, not this stuff
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Green
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posted 12-03-1999 12:37 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great pictures Mercy.........but there's little to indicate that you are on a ship - I'll stick with the 'oldies'
You forgot to mention that HAL's VOLENDAM is also featured - now there's a ship!

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Joe at PwC
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posted 12-03-1999 02:22 PM      Profile for Joe at PwC   Email Joe at PwC   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Unquestionably: the best room is the dining room. Everything else smacks of Carnival. The golf course looks fun, though.
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posted 12-03-1999 03:57 PM      Profile for Vaccaro   Author's Homepage   Email Vaccaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the address Mercy.
hmm...strange feeling. Yes, it remains a strange feeling in my mind, neither good, nor bad...but rather not good...or not totally bad.
Difficult for me to have a clear-cut opinion before having try. But at first sight, I think It is not for my tastes. I'm not enought agree with the philosophy, decors, and rooms (too LAS VEGAS or CARNIVAL like). But some "old good liners" that I like so much, were very famous in the past and now although their art, decors, materials and rooms (wich recalled wellknown streets or places in town) were very innovative when they started their career.
So, maybe with lot of more hindsight I will ba able to like VOYAGER of the SEAS.
Now, I prefer the more traditional ships, especially those of the 60s. I like the decors of the VOLENDAM or RENAISSANCE 1...2... too among others actual cruise ships. According me, the ideal would be to sail on an "old" ship, them on a innovative one, them on an old one again, them...
I'm agree with Joe at Pwc, the room I prefer is unquestionably the dining room too, although cabins are not too bad. I don't like the rock climbing.
Bye.

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posted 12-03-1999 11:11 PM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nice photos Mercy, however. We're with Vaccaro, put us on the older
ships. The VOLENDAM is much more
impressive than VOYAGER.

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lillian
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posted 12-04-1999 05:16 PM      Profile for lillian   Email lillian   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Mercy: Thanks for the site. Loved looking at the photos. Great looking ship. Will have to sail on it soon.
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sympatico
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posted 12-04-1999 08:13 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great pictures. Too bad they didn't put captions under each picture. Volendam looks really nice - more subdued than the VOTS. Prefer it to the VOTS.
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Jm
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posted 12-06-1999 06:10 AM      Profile for Jm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just got done sailing voyager and by what I see of the pictures of the other ship voyager blows it away with elagance.
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Mercy
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posted 12-06-1999 08:38 AM      Profile for Mercy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jm...How did you like your first cruise?
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MagnmPI
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posted 12-06-1999 09:40 PM      Profile for MagnmPI     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello all, I just got back after a week on Voyager. I must admit, when Mercy first found the other site with Voyager interior photos, I was the first to say the it reminded me of Carnival. But, now I think she (Voyager) expands on the tradional thinking of what cruising is today as well as adds a new dimension to it. The experience reminded me of my very first cruise twenty years ago.

The deep purple and dark blue lighting seen in some photos of the "Royal Promenade" are used to simulate "nighttime" during night hours, since natural lighting is limited to non-existent. During the daytime, the lights similate daylight, revealing the interior colors whiich are similar to any RCI multi-level centrum.

I'll start a question and answer topic as soon as I get situated for those who are curious about Voyager.


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joe at travelpage
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posted 12-06-1999 10:18 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's a new review of the Voyager from our reader reviews pages at http://www.travelpage.com/yourfav/yourfav_cruise.htm

Royal Caribbean International
MV Voyager of the Seas

Reviewed by ebi V.
# previous cruises: 1
Date of Trip: November 21, 1999
Itinerary: Caribbean - Western

Overall – If it sounds like we mention a lot of negatives below, that’s just because we’re being complete and giving both the negatives and positives in our description, to give people a better idea of what to expect. Although we were really turned off by the overwhelming amount of deceptive advertising by RCCL, especially when we realize that the people who are telling us their ship is 142000 GRT (which it actually isn’t, according to official records) are the same ones who are still denying that they were involved in oil dumping by their engineers, and we would not choose this line again unless we see some changes, the ship itself is a wonderful product – huge, new, clean, beautiful, in good shape, and with lots and lots to do on board.

Public Areas:
The Ship – It was well laid out and easy to get around. The décor was modern and innovative, with an impressive art collection. It wasn’t too modern for most people’s taste, though, I don’t think. Only places like the disco had really "weird" décor with lots of plastic and geometric shapes, which was very appropriate. The "atmosphere" of the Promenade was varied from day to night and on different days, by the use of banners and lighting. The dining room, Portofino's, and the Connoisseur Club were very classic and elegant, with brass, velvet and heavy draperies. We thought the life-sized nude adult statues complete with genitalia around the atrium pool were inappropriate for a public place with children, and the "St. Tropez" sunbathing area was not clearly marked as I’ve heard it is on other ships, so some people were complaining about adults "exposing themselves" to children. But these were both in the top forward part of the ship, so one could avoid these areas. The wide promenade deck with scattered deck chairs leading all the way around the ship on deck 4, and up to the observation area on deck 5 was wonderful. At night, the observation deck at the tip of the bow is usually deserted and totally unlit, so it’s a very beautiful and romantic place. It was especially beautiful on our first night on board, when we were sailing toward a full moon. The top deck and pools are well laid out. Deck chairs were never lacking, partly because a "deck monitor" occasionally removed towels left behind on chairs! We just wished the whirlpools weren’t full of kids all the time! But they were sure enjoying them!

Food & Service:
We liked the nice variety in the Windjammer/Island grill. Always lots of fresh fruit. Smoked fish for breakfast was a real treat. The main dining room had good quality and selection. We didn’t see the lobster and specialty foods other people had mentioned, but what they offered was prepared very well and there was salmon offered on the a la carte menu if anyone didn’t want any of the regular entrees. The room service breakfast menu was limited and very confusing. They should have provided a menu for each person or provided a place to list how many of each item was requested. We were unable to get what we wanted, even when making it as clear as possible on the menu they provided. The midnight gala buffet they held one night was a zoo. The foods were very impressively prepared, but they scheduled 1/2 of the passengers to crowd through to look at 11:30 and 1/2 at 12:00, and then everyone crowded back in to try to eat after that. We gave up. I was a little bit disappointed because I was hoping to get a little bit of that tiny bowl of caviar they provided for all 2855 of us. (Alas, no caviar on this cruise; next time I’ll bring my own.)

Service - It was a little different from what I’d heard described by veteran cruisers. No towel animals, and no waiters encouraging us to have a second helping on the entrée (which we certainly didn’t need). The room attendant cleaned the room twice a day and did a good job. The waiters in the dining room were efficient and pleasant, if a little rushed. The service in Portofino was a fiasco. They were very understaffed, and it took us over 2 hours to get dinner. Some diners were walking out. We didn’t mind the very slow dinner, but the waiter kept making mistakes. We had ordered a bottle of wine, but after we finished the first glass he took our glasses and we’d been served 3 more courses of our 7 course meal before we could catch him to get them back, because he kept throwing the food on the table and running away and didn’t even hear us trying to catch him. And then after we got the glasses back, he forgot to pour (we almost walked across the room and got it ourselves). Between his frantic attitude and continual yelling at the assistant waiter, the environment was pretty tense. I really think they’ll correct this soon, though, because so many people were complaining and walking out, and probably asking for refunds on their $5 pp surcharge! The deck waiters were VERY active on the first night, probably making lots of tips selling those "souvenir glasses" to unsuspecting guests like us who thought they were just buying a drink, but they were a little hard to catch later in the week (which is probably a good thing, because I was too lazy to get up from my deck chair so that kept me from drinking in the afternoon).

Cabins:
Our DB balcony cabin had a nice, neutral décor in peach and lime green. It was an aft cabin so it had a very large balcony, but the view was a little bit obstructed by structures on the back of the ship and overlooked a deck, not the ocean directly. At times, there was a lot of engine noise, vibration and rattling, but I believe this was only in the aft cabins. It felt very private, but was a long walk to any of the ship activities. Amenities were definitely not as expected based on RCCL’s advertising. The "refrigerator" was a minibar completely full with no room for our things. We couldn’t remove anything to make room because there was an automatic sensor to add charges for anything removed. The "radio" was a switch on the wall for Muzak. The "clock" was a digital time display on the phone that couldn’t be read in the dark or set as an alarm (and the automated wake-up call didn’t work consistently). The room had a lot of well-organized storage space, generous shower volume, and the bed and pillows were wonderfully comfortable. The interactive TV allowed us to book our shore excursions within 5 minutes of boarding, and gave us video clips of each one!

Entertainment:
This was a big disappointment. RCCL had claimed that "world champion figure skaters" would be on the maiden voyage, and had hinted that it would be Katarina Witt, who was scheduled to perform at "Starskates on Ice" the day before the maiden voyage. Actually, all they provided was a pre-recorded video of Peggy Fleming introducing Voyager’s skaters, and a video of K. Witt on the in-room TV (I guess they didn’t specify the skaters would be live). They had also promised "Broadway legends", and actually did have one – Ben Vereen. We usually skipped the main show, but the ones they had were very high-tech, with very innovative set design, lighting and special effects. The skating show was also very high-tech, with cables flying skaters through the air.

Activities:
This was one of the highlights of our cruise. We loved to sit and listen to the Jazz quartet at High Notes or the guy with the acoustic guitar taking requests at Pig and Whistle, or to go have a cigar and brandy at the Connoisseur Club or go dancing in the Vault or at Cleopatra’s. There was such a variety of things to do.

Excursions – Labadee: The water was murky and the sand was a little muddy. The local workers "store" all of RCCL’s beach chairs, so you have to tip one of them to bring you one and can’t just choose one on the beach. Though by the end of the day there are plenty lying around. The buffet lunch was nice, complete with live music. The people parasailing and renting the jet skis seemed to be having the best time. Jamaica: Dunn’s River Falls was surprisingly scary and strenuous, though all in our group made it to the top, and we were glad we did it. Shopping in the malls afterwards was fun, especially if you listen to the shopping guide talk on board, so you’re familiar with the various products. The falls guides, bus driver and tour operator all expect tips. Cozumel: We saw Tulum and for us it was well worth the long, boring ferry and bus rides. We didn’t get a chance to swim in that crystal green water, though, and so we want to go back again someday!

Embarkation/Debarkation/Tenders – Embarkation through the new terminal was very efficient. Official boarding time was 2:00, but we boarded three hours early. Disembarking was just as efficient. The wait for the tenders at Labadee was long and boring at about 10:30 in the morning, and they didn’t plan well for "crowd control," so passageways were blocked by those waiting. But this may have just been one of those "maiden voyage glitches" that we were expecting, and it may be corrected in the future

Who Goes:
Passengers were mostly 40s-60s, with some international diversity (I'm guessing about 10% weren't US citiziens). A few families here and there. A really fun crowd, but not too loud.


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MagnmPI
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posted 12-08-1999 05:23 PM      Profile for MagnmPI     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does anyone know how big Voyager is, according to Debi's review it is not 142,000 GRT.
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Debi
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posted 12-09-1999 11:24 AM      Profile for Debi   Email Debi   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's 137,300. Still pretty big!!! The actual measurement is posted on a plaque in every ship, as we saw on Voyager. GRT, as you may know, is a measure of a ship's volume. RCCL decided to include the balconies in the measurement they used for advertizing, according to one cruise news source (I can't remember the name - sorry). But this is contrary to official standards. And the numbers you will see listed for most cruise ships are according to these standards. For a discussion of GRT and ship measurement, you can see the little-used NBC-sponsored message board at http://bbs.msnbc.com/bbs/msnbc-cruise/index.asp
I also remembered that it was Cunard that brought this information about Voyager to light, because their new Queen Mary project ship will supposedly be larger if the official numbers are used. It is also going to be longer.

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posted 12-09-1999 12:57 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's a discussion of tonnage from an earlier post on TravelPage.com....

Tonnage is often completely misunderstood and is a constant source of confusion. It all started in ancient Greece when taxes were introduced on shipowners bringing their ships into port, measured against the earning capacity of the ship. They decided the size of the hold by the number of TUNS of wine could fit into the hold and this was called the TUNNAGE. Obviously a measure of volume, this eventually became the mixed in with the weight measurements which confusingly were tons.
If you'll bear with me for a second then, this is the situation as I understand it:
Displacement tonnage - is the weight of water displaced by the ship and is effectively the entire weight of the ship and all that is in her.

Deadweight - Is the weight in tonnes of cargo, fuel, stores, fresh water, crew and passengers carried by the ship when she is down to her marks.

Gross Tonnage - Varies slightly to how it is measured according to the rules of the flag state but is the capacity in cubic feetof the spaces in the hull and enclosed spaces above, available for cargo, stores, passengers and crew (i.e. her earning capacity) divided by 100. Therefore 100 cubic feet of capacity is 1 gross ton. Metricization now means it is measured in cubic metres but I'm not sure of the conversion.

Nett tonnage - Is found by subtracting the working spaces of navigation and machinery, crew and fuel from the Gross tonnage.

The other tonnages are Suez and Panamanian when they measure the earning capacity of the ship by their own rules.

Hope this helps.

Joe at TravelPage.com


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Debi
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posted 12-09-1999 02:49 PM      Profile for Debi   Email Debi   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Joe, for the excellent review.

I should add that "GRT" in my message refers to Gross Registered Tonnage, which is, obviously, the Gross Tonnage that the ship is registered as having, as you explain in your post.


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Debi
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posted 12-10-1999 09:26 AM      Profile for Debi   Email Debi   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
By the way, Voyager is the largest passenger ship in the world. Does everyone know what the very largest ship in the world is? Answer is here: http://www.wallem.com/shipmgt.html
She is 50% longer than Voyager!

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