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jsea
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posted 05-29-2005 02:50 PM      Profile for jsea     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
More photos of the lengthening process courtesy of Bart de Boer's ShipParade:

http://www.shipparade.com/sotw/sotw1.htm


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cruiseshipluver
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posted 05-29-2005 09:18 PM      Profile for cruiseshipluver   Author's Homepage   Email cruiseshipluver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerdan:
Gday all
Hope this dosent sound like a stuipd question:
When a ship is lengthen and more cabins/suites are added , do they have to renumber all the cabins again to keep them in running order?
Regards Linerdan.

i dont think it's a stupid question Linerdan but one i find rather interesting, they will probably keep the cabin numbers in the foward section then start renumbering from the midsection towards the aft....or it could be the other way around.....i'm not sure what they will do though....but just a thought
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posted 05-29-2005 10:05 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerdan:
Gday all
Hope this dosent sound like a stuipd question:
When a ship is lengthen and more cabins/suites are added , do they have to renumber all the cabins again to keep them in running order?
Regards Linerdan.

This is not a stupid question - altough I would not agree with "there are no stupid questions". I think they will renumber the cabins. On vessels which have been lengthened it has been done, and I guess finally RCCl won`t point out to their passengers: "...and this is where the whole ship has been cut in two parts..." as most people are not fascinated by the fact that a ship can be stretched.
Finally the whole "signage" has to be changed. There are companies spezilaized in providing the signs (better: the whole "sign system") for cruise ships.


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posted 05-29-2005 11:46 PM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Ernst wrote:
"...and this is where the whole ship has been cut in two parts..." as most people are not fascinated by the fact that a ship can be stretched.

Most people have no idea the ship they’re cruising on was built in sections (and welded together) or that ships can be lengthened, but if you actually told them it was cut in two and a piece was added, they’d probably get scared.

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bulbousbow
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posted 05-29-2005 11:48 PM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
cruiseshipluver wrote:
...they will probably keep the cabin numbers in the foward section then start renumbering from the midsection towards the aft....or it could be the other way around.....i'm not sure what they will do though....but just a thought

They would follow-on from where the new section comes in like you said cruiseshipluver. You would think numbers go from forward to aft, that’s logical isn’t it?

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Waynaro
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posted 05-30-2005 12:01 AM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The pictures Bart uploaded are quiet good! I am disappointed the fact that the new "suspension" bridge has a different window color than the rest of the ship

Anyhow, she is looking nice!


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quote:
Originally posted by Keitaro:
The pictures Bart uploaded are quiet good! I am disappointed the fact that the new "suspension" bridge has a different window color than the rest of the ship

Anyhow, she is looking nice!


I thought the same thing. RCI is known for it's "green glass". I wonder why the "bridge" is not the same?

Ernie


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posted 05-30-2005 12:29 AM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eroller:

I thought the same thing. RCI is known for it's "green glass". I wonder why the "bridge" is not the same?

Ernie


Ernie, I've only managed to come up with one explanation....

Maybe RCI want their passengers to know that there is an added midsection "and here is where the ship was cut into two parts..."


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posted 05-30-2005 05:12 AM      Profile for HALover     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eroller:

I thought the same thing. RCI is known for it's "green glass". I wonder why the "bridge" is not the same?

Ernie


Maybe it's a protection foil who will be removed when all the work is finished?


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Dave the Wave
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posted 05-30-2005 10:47 AM      Profile for Dave the Wave   Email Dave the Wave   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In response to cabin numbering, I was on the ship in May '04 and am booked for November '05. My old cabin 8533 has been renumbered to 8591. I am booked in 8093 which is the first cabin portside, inside forward of the centrum. It used to be 8035. There are also some new "family" inside cabins forward on this deck. You can see this if you can compare the old deck plans to the new.
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quote:
Originally posted by HALover:

Maybe it's a protection foil who will be removed when all the work is finished?


well i dont think so, i think that is the actual colour of the glass on the midsection......but i would rekon that they'd tint it sum more so that it can match back with the rest of the Glass on the ship.
cruiseshipluver


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eroller
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quote:
Originally posted by cruiseshipluver:

well i dont think so, i think that is the actual colour of the glass on the midsection......but i would rekon that they'd tint it sum more so that it can match back with the rest of the Glass on the ship.
cruiseshipluver



I think it's too late to tint the glass. I believe the "green glass" that RCI uses is a process that happens during the making of the glass, not a "tint" that can be added later.

It is possible the glass does have a white protective
film over it now that will eventually be pulled off (as mentioned earlier), if not, then I suspect that RCI wanted the glass a different color for whatever reason.

Ernie


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posted 05-30-2005 02:39 PM      Profile for RCI 20   Email RCI 20   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Glass is covered with plastic or paper.....
RCI20

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Hi,

I would say it's a glass covering becasue in the picture, if you look above the new glass you can see a yellow crane and if you follow the boom down you can't see it when it's behind the glass which makes me think there's an opaque covering.

Kevin


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cruiseshipluver
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hey, i think that u are right kevin.......that does say that there is a covering cuz if it was plain glass u would see the yellow crane through it....thats good spotting Kevin.
cruiseshipluver

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Jonathan
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posted 05-30-2005 10:05 PM      Profile for Jonathan   Author's Homepage   Email Jonathan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If there is no covering on the glass then maybe they will tent the class that green cover. Cause when we were on some RCCL ships the green was waxy feel and peeling on one of the pool side windows i think it is an aftermarket tint. Cause on the Explorer of the seas the balconies and stuff dont have the green.

Jonathan


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posted 05-30-2005 10:56 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by cruisintoday14:
If there is no covering on the glass then maybe they will tent the class that green cover. Cause when we were on some RCCL ships the green was waxy feel and peeling on one of the pool side windows i think it is an aftermarket tint. Cause on the Explorer of the seas the balconies and stuff don't have the green.

Jonathan



I don't' think it's aftermarket. The glass is manufactured that way. It would be way too much upkeep if it were a film. It would be peeling everywhere and the RCI ships are covered with green glass from head to toe. You would also be able to see seems where the film was not fitted exactly. I've never seen that on a RCI ship nor have I seen peeling on any of the windows.

Balconies probably have clear glass so there is nothing distorting your view of the ocean. It's also not necessary to reflect heat on the balconies which is probably a reason for the green glass on the major windows. It no doubt saves RCI on a/c costs. I notice Princess has blue tint glass and Carnival uses a lot of dark (almost black) looking glass.

I remember on the NORWAY the glass on the interior promenade was covered with a mirrored film. It would reflect the sun to help keep it cooler in side. From the exterior it looked pretty cool, but once it got old and started peeling it really looked like crap.

Ernie


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posted 06-02-2005 11:37 PM      Profile for cruiseshipluver   Author's Homepage   Email cruiseshipluver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
if your interested in following Enchantment's lengthening you can take a look at http://www.aadhoogesteger.nl/cruiseschepen/verlench13.html (this was the link that was posted somewhere back on the 1st page) but on this site there are sonme links to pages that show EOS litterally joined together...and showing close ups of the *suspension bridge glass* which proves that it is covered in a paper to protect it. and the bunjee upright rods are inplace over the windjammer.




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The last photo on this page shows it quite clearly, too.
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OK this will probably sound like another stupid question but isn't meant to be - on the whole topic of ship stretching - I happen to think that every ship that has ever been stretched has emerged looking better. What do you all think?
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The bridge/arch window looks goofy. It isnt as high as the other windows, well it is higher but there is a bog gap that makes it look odd.

Jonathan

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quote:
Originally posted by mec1:
OK this will probably sound like another stupid question but isn't meant to be - on the whole topic of ship stretching - I happen to think that every ship that has ever been stretched has emerged looking better. What do you all think?

I agree.


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quote:
Originally posted by mec1:
I happen to think that every ship that has ever been stretched has emerged looking better. What do you all think?

They certainly all look longer.


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Well no I don't think that all ships that have been stretched have come out looking better. I think the Homeric / Westerdam had a better profile pre-stretch. And I think the Dreamward / Windward were better looking than the resultant Norwegian Dream and Wind. I think the original RCCL twins looked better stretched, and so did the RVL trio. I also think the Norwegian Majesty looks better post-stretch. I am somewhat ambavilant on the Berlin but think her proportions might have been better pre-stretch. I am not sure I will like the look of the Enchanment better, but will with hold judgement till I see her finished.

Homeric - pre-stretch

As Costa Europa - post-stretch

Windward - pre-stretch

Norwegian Wind - post-stretch

This next is in my opinion the best of the stretch jobs

Song of Norway - pre-stretch

Song of Norway - post-stretch

And I like this one too

Norwegian Majesty - pre-stretch

Norwegian Majesty - post-stretch

So in my mind some stretches have improved the ships appearance, some have hurt it.

Thad

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Thad, I agree with you ton all the ships you mentioned except for NORWEGIAN DREAM/WIND. I think they look more sleek post-stretch, not that they didn't look good to begin with...

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